Five years ago, we interviewed a woman who asked that we call her Herminia. It was the summer of 2019, just as former President Donald J. Trump — then in his first term — ordered nationwide raids to round up and deport undocumented immigrants. Herminia feared she was on the list.In the end, she was never arrested. A few days ago, we called Herminia back. We asked what has happened to her since Trump left office, and how she is preparing for a second Trump term — in which he has pledged to put the deportation of people like her at the center of his presidency.Guests: Herminia, an undocumented immigrant who has been living in the United States with her husband and children for more than two decades. (Herminia is not her real name.)Background reading: We first spoke to Herminia in 2019. Listen to that interview.Here’s what we know about the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border.Across the U.S., there has been widespread anxiety about Trump’s promises to deport immigrants. Some schools are readying educators and immigrant families for a potential wave of deportations.For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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Hey.
Hi.
Is this Herminia? Yes. It's been a few years.
It's been a few years, but it sounds like it was yesterday. I remember your voice now.
Well, I remember your voice as well, and it's really nice to hear it again.
Yeah, same to you.
Are you at home?
Yes, I am. I just got home from work.
Which means we're creating more work for you with this conversation. So thank you for making time for us. I really, really appreciate it. Nah, it's nothing. So how are you doing? How is your family? How are you?
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