
The Chuck ToddCast
Interview Only w/Paul Glastris - Why America’s Colleges Are FAILING Their Students
09 Oct 2025
Chuck Todd sits down with Washington Monthly editor-in-chief Paul Glastris to unpack how America’s college ranking system went off the rails—and how it’s warping higher education itself. Glastris argues that U.S. News & World Report rewards wealth, not value, pushing schools to chase prestige over affordability and teaching quality. He highlights Berea College as a model for what higher ed could be: a well-endowed school that actually invests in its students rather than its brand.The two also explore how higher ed’s obsession with research grants and graduate programs has left undergrads behind, and why community and regional universities—where most Americans actually study—deserve more attention and funding. From the decline of community colleges to the disappearance of local journalism, Glastris and Todd make the case for a “New Deal for Higher Education” that values mobility, access, and public service over profit and rankings.Got injured in an accident? You could be one click away from a claim worth millions. Just visit https://www.forthepeople.com/TODDCAST to start your claim now with Morgan & Morgan without leaving your couch. Remember, it's free unless you win!Timeline:(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements)00:00 Paul Glastris joins the Chuck ToddCast01:00 Best colleges for the buck?03:15 US News ranks colleges in a horrific way04:30 Schools prioritize wealth when doing admissions07:30 Upward mobility matters more when ranking colleges09:15 Schools freak out when they lose ranking status10:45 Berea College is best bang for the buck school in America12:45 Berea has a massive endowment, but it’s used for education15:30 Schools focus on post-grad programs rather than undergrad17:00 Research institutions should be put in their own category17:30 Trump administration is going after schools with research grants19:00 We’ve never seen an administration target college research20:15 It costs a ton of money to send kids to college now21:30 Do colleges prioritize hiring researchers or teachers?24:15 We overproduce academic talent in America26:15 Smaller schools face massive financial challenges28:30 Many schools border on predatory30:00 We need a “new deal” for higher education32:30 Most people get their BA’s at local & regional universities34:00 America didn’t get to making 2 years of college free35:15 The state of the community college system36:45 Florida never built a good state system, has no prestige schools37:45 Florida standardized passing courses counting at every school39:45 There’s a wide disparity of outcomes between community colleges40:15 Community colleges offer community building activities42:45 College rankings are an important example of service journalism44:45 Local journalism was the foundational piece of the profession46:00 The economic underpinnings of local journalism have been wiped out48:30 Government and philanthropy can underwrite local journalism50:30 National opinion journalism undermined local journalism52:00 Small towns can’t afford good journalism Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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