Did Trump really just deport a random "Maryland dad?" Of course not. Like so many narratives around immigration, this latest hitpiece on the administration is a deceptive sham. Will Chamberlain helps Charlie puncture the latest case of fake news, and FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr lays out his campaign against DEI both in the bureaucracy and in the media. Watch ad-free on members.charliekirk.com! Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: Did Trump deport a 'Maryland dad'?
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Chapter 2: What role does the FCC play in tech and media regulation?
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Brendan, welcome to the program. Brendan, let's set the table. Reintroduce the audience to what the FCC is and does.
Yeah, thanks so much. Great to be with you again, Charlie. So the FCC, probably the easiest way to think about it is we're sort of a mini Congress almost for tech and telecom issues. So Section 230, which has been abused by big tech companies to censors in the Communications Act. So we have a role there. We regulate media broadcasters.
So all those local broadcasters are licensed by the FCC to operate in the public interest. But for the last decade or so, the FCC has walked away from enforcing that public interest standard. We have a role to play on national security as well, and also the airwaves. So when you turn your smartphone on, you want it to work, you want it to be fast.
Well, that requires airwaves, and we free up those airwaves and get it into consumers' hands. And so there's a whole bunch of different roles that the FCC plays, and we're moving on Trump time. President Trump came in and fundamentally reshaped the direction of D.C. I haven't seen it in a long time. I've been here for many, many years.
People are energized, they're excited, and we're following Trump's lead here at the FCC.
That's wonderful. So let's talk about your investigation into ABC and Disney. Tell us about it.
Yeah, one of the very first things that President Trump did was he came in and said we are ending the federal government's promotion of DEI. He also issued an executive order calling for agencies to look at private sector DEI practices that violate. federal law. We've been doing both of those at the FCC. Day one at the FCC, I issued an order that ended the FCC's own promotion of DEI.
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Chapter 3: How is the FCC tackling DEI and broadcaster regulations?
We were spending at the FCC alone millions and millions of dollars promoting DEI. We had DEI listed as our second highest strategic priority, promoting DEI ahead of empowering consumers, ahead of global competitiveness, ahead of sort of operational excellence at the FCC. No, promoting DEI was the FCC's second highest priority. We've shut all that down.
One thing I'm doing now is I'm going through all these companies that the FCC regulates. Disney owns ABC, which is a licensed broadcaster by the FCC. And I got to tell you, what we're seeing there, Charlie, is unbelievable. The initial indications are
And this comes from some reporting from Chris Ruffo, from Robbie Starbuck, other reports, information from Disney itself, that literally they were dividing employees along race and gender lines, segregating them out, giving potentially different opportunities in the employment workspace. You know, that's a violation of the FCC's own rules.
Equal employment opportunity rules if the evidence end up supporting those original allegations. And I can't think of a more serious potential violation of a broadcaster than engaging in, you know, race and gender based discrimination. We'll see where it goes. We're open minded. But those early signs are concerning.
So tell us, Brendan, there's also evidence to show that YouTube is discriminating on religious channels as well. This is totally unacceptable. What's going on here?
Yeah, when you step back, a lot of these technology companies have sort of understood what happened in November. They've understood the new direction of the country under President Trump. X obviously always stood in the breach for free speech. Facebook meta has come to the table recently. You know, welcome. You know, we hope that it sort of sticks long term.
But Google and YouTube in particular have a lot of work to do. And one of the things that's concerning to me is there was a number of reports the FCC got saying, that YouTube TV, which is effectively a cable channel, though it's virtual, it's a cable channel, cable company, has not been carrying, and apparently potentially has this unspoken policy of not carrying religious-oriented programming.
There was one particular channel in particular that we wrote them about. We're going to see what their full response on that is, but that's very concerning if that ends up being the case. Hopefully this dispute gets resolved favorably.
So also there is a looming question the audience has about NPR and PBS and the ongoing doging and their dodging of certain information. What should we know about these taxpayer funded monstrosities of NPR and PBS?
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Chapter 4: Are tech companies censoring religious and conservative content?
But why don't you support yourself the way every other outlet that has a viewpoint does? It wasn't that long ago, if you did a cross section of NPR and PBS listeners, that you sort of got a cross section of the American electorate. And I think to some extent that makes sense if you're forcing everybody to support it.
But over the last couple of years, you know, the listenership, the viewership is just clustering, you know, along the northern sector of the Acela corridor. And yet everyone else around the country is having to pay for it. So I don't think that's a great thing. And there was just a hearing, obviously, in Congress a week or so ago where the CEOs testified.
And ultimately, I don't think they advanced their cause very well before Congress.
There was this piece of tape this morning, and I'm trying to find it, of a professor from University of San Diego or somewhere nearby. And they asked her, they said, hey, how do we make our politics more progressive? And she said, the number one thing we need to do is regulate social media. The number one thing they want to do is prevent different voices from having a speech on social media.
Brendan, we see that in Germany. They are raiding homes over what people are putting on social media in the United Kingdom as well. What is your commitment to freedom of speech at the FCC to stand against these calls to prevent conservatives like myself and this audience to speak on social media?
I'm 100% committed to making sure that we smash the censorship cartel. In fact, I'm doing an event just tomorrow over at the Department of Justice with the new antitrust enforcer, Gail Slater, with the chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, Andrew Ferguson, and three of us.
are working together to make sure that we never go through what Americans lived through, particularly the last four or five years, when this wave of censorship came across the country. You had social media companies themselves, Facebook, censoring lawful political speech of Americans. You had the Biden administration officials jawboning and pressuring people into doing it.
You have advertising and marketing entities that are part of this cartel that are enforcing it. We've got to end that and make sure that we can never, ever go back to it. The truth is, If you look at trust in national media right now, it's at an all-time low. I mean, look, literally people have more faith in gas station sushi than they do the mainstream media, including ABC, CBS, and NBC.
That's why social media is so important. That's why social media and speech on the internet and podcasts are under attack because it lets people go around saying, that traditional establishment media. And everyone has realized, you know, the emperor has no clothes. They've so consistently gotten so many important stories wrong, and people only know about it because of free speech on the internet.
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Chapter 5: What actions are being taken against NPR and PBS?
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Well, it would help if we could regulate social media, because one of the biggest offenders is D.C. and Congress have not been able to do one thing in regard to the rogue corporations of social media. It's not going to get any better with Elon Musk in the administration.
Brendan, there is a big push to try and regulate the speech on social media. The European Union right now has some of the most restrictive speech policies. What are you doing at the FCC to allow free and open dialogue to continue and to resist these pushes?
Yeah, it's pretty wild to see the radical left complain that there wasn't enough censorship on social media. You know, you got Hunter Biden laptop store, you got all sorts of COVID discussions that were completely shut down. Again, I think with President Trump and the White House, we were exiting this era of massive censorship across the U.S. There's still work to do.
Us at the FCC, DOJ, across government, we're going to do it. But your point, there's a big concern globally as well. We saw this with Brazil last year. They effectively shut down X because they would not censor people purely for political viewpoints are being expressed there. Europe right now is in a whole lot of trouble.
As you indicated, they have this new law they passed called the DSA, the Digital Services Act, which effectively requires, and I would argue targets, U.S. technology companies and encourages them to engage in censorship conduct. Vice President Vance went to Europe and was spot on. He gave a speech saying, look, we're going to develop AI. America is going to lead the world with gold standard AI.
You can join us if you want. You can benefit from it as well. but you can't be imposing these ideological biases into AI through this DSA, through this regulation of technology companies, because there's a real fork in the road on AI. You've got China, which is heading down their path. They've got DeepSeek. If you ask DeepSeek what happened at Tiananmen Square, they say nothing.
It was a great day. If you ask them You know, how are the Uyghurs doing? They'd say perfectly fine. They're getting a great education in a camp-like environment. So the world is going to split when it comes to AI. There's going to be the authoritarian censored version that China's going to push. There's going to be the gold standard that we lead the world on.
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Chapter 6: How is social media censorship impacting free speech globally?
We're seeing a real effort to clamp down on availability of wide open political debate, political discourse, but we need it. Free speech is democracy's check on authoritarianism, and we've got to continue to stand at the rampart to defend it.
So, Brendan, in closing, what are some of the other priorities that you guys are looking at the FCC? Big fights. AI is a big one. Also, the idea of Internet access. I would love to see a proliferation of the use of Starlink and to get away from old antiquated ways of broadband delivery of Internet. What else are you guys thinking about as top priorities of the FCC?
Yeah, you're right. One thing is we're moving away from weaponization. The Biden years really weaponized all of our country's communications laws. If your last name was Soros, well, you got a sweetheart deal on a streamlined basis. If your last name was Musk, well, Starlink lost millions and millions of dollars worth of contracts.
What we've committed to now is everyone's getting a fair shake from this FCC. Now, Democrats don't like that. They claim that I'm discriminating against their sacred cows, but I would simply say this. The entities that benefited from the two-tier system of justice that prevailed during the Biden years are now getting even-handed treatment from me.
And that feels like discrimination to them because they were used to benefiting from weaponization. But we're running a very aggressive agenda. We're following President Trump's lead. To your point, we're going to be boosting Starlink. We're going to be boosting competitors even to Starlink to get more connectivity out there. We're trying to push more airwaves. out there.
You know, frankly, the Biden administration kind of walked us into a cul-de-sac where China now has a massive lead on us on Spectrum, which is needed for next generation connectivity. We've got to close that gap on them. But we're running an aggressive agenda. We're bringing people back into the building at the FCC.
I think just yesterday I pulled the numbers and we're at four times the number of people are in the building now than we're on the average day last year. So we're doing a lot right now and having fun, too, which is important.
Brendan, we support you 100%. There's a lot to go after. In fact, we've talked about on the show how there's this boycott network that is going after shows like this, this RICO type of activity that are trying to restrict over-the-top providers. And I know you guys at the FCC have eyes on all that to restore fairness and free speech. Thank you. History, economics, the great works of literature.
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Chapter 7: What are the FCC's priorities under Brendan Carr?
And he applied for asylum, testifying that he fears returning to El Salvador because the 18th Street gang was targeting him and threatening him with death because of his family's business. And also has ties to human trafficking. Let's play cut to 12.
Jesse, you and I have never received in our lives as much positive press as this MS-13 gang member has received. We couldn't get headlines like that if our lives depended on it. Fact one, what do you do with illegal aliens? You deport them. Fact two, he's an MS-13. What do you do with illegal aliens who are also in a transnational terrorist organization? You deport them more quickly.
Oh, and on top of that, he's implicated in human trafficking. Deport, deport, deport. This is who they're going to bat for. What are we supposed to do? Buy the guy a house, get him some free health care, maybe let him run for Congress.
So, Will, all kidding aside here, the mass deportation plan is lawful. It might not be something that the media likes. What is your take on the deportations and the media's coverage of it?
and the essence and of course i think the trump administration gets a little bit of a cautionary hey you have to make sure every administrative detail is followed because let's just be honest if they actually would have put an american citizen in an el salvadorian jail then then we're in a different circumstance that is not even remotely close what's going on here will
Reason we have mass deportations is because we had a mass invasion facilitated by Joe Biden. They didn't vet every one of these migrants individually to ensure they could get into the country. On the contrary, they let them in en masse, and they did so intentionally. So you have to give the Trump administration a little grace in order to solve this problem.
There probably are going to be moments where they are over-inclusive. And I think it's important for us as a conservative movement to not just, you know, go hit the fainting couch the moment there's a report in The Atlantic that something went wrong.
I mean, here, you know, the Trump administration confessed error in court, like the ICE filings, clearly the filings in court clearly say, yeah, this guy did have a withholding of removal to El Salvador. He shouldn't have been removed. Our mistake. But it's important. They classified it as an administrative error rather than some profound injustice.
And they're right, because if they had gone through the normal process, this guy was going to get removed back to El Salvador.
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Chapter 8: How can less lethal options be a solution for self-defense?
No, self-deportation actually is part of the strategy. And by the way, just so we are clear, the Cornell Ford student who sued the Trump administration just self-deported. Mamamoto just turned himself in and just he's gone. His name is literally Mamamoto and he's gone. And so self-deportation is a primary and important ingredient towards the securing of our nation.
And I want to reinforce something you said, Will, which I hope our audience internalizes. The closure of the southern border is one of the quickest public policy accomplishments and achievements of the last era since World War II. We have not seen a public crisis go from the Richter scale of 10 out of 10 to basically a non-issue in 100 days or less in my lifetime.
Think about all the problems that we've dealt with that were crises. COVID, lockdowns, financial crisis, Iraq war, terrorism, 9-11. We have never seen a crisis since I have been born go from crisis to non-issue so quickly. Am I right in saying that, Will?
You're absolutely right. And, you know, sometimes this is I would say this to there are probably people in your audience who are like, well, why isn't the administration doing this or feeling like, oh, you know, they could be doing more. They could be more conservative. I mean, trust me, as somebody who's been around Republican politics, I'm 39 now. I've never seen anything like this.
And don't take it for granted, because the next time next Republican president or, you know, in 10 or 15 years, you might be complaining that they're not doing anything at all. It's a remarkable accomplishment. And it comes from the fact that they realize, you know, think about where they were sending migrants back on military planes.
Think about the video hits they're doing where they have Kirstie Noem going down to El Salvador. These things are a deterrent. They are a demonstration that if you come here illegally and you don't leave on your own accord, we aren't going to be nice about it. And that's what people need.
That leads people to think, well, you know, maybe I should just go home on my own and just get on a plane like a normal human being rather than be deported in handcuffs on a military plane.
That's right. And also, just so we are clear, I want every administrative detail to be followed. But what a signal that sends to gang members right now. And they're saying, oh my goodness, if I even might be remotely associated with MS-13 and I step foot in the United States, I might end up in an El Salvadorian prison. How's that for the neoconservative's favorite word, deterrence, Will?
Yeah, that's exactly what we need. I mean, really, the neoconservatives were always so reluctant to apply that logic at home where it actually was most applicable. You know, we need to say, OK, we need to actually deter it. And so Mitt Romney, you know, had this soft talk about self-deportation. But Trump is actually demonstrating how you get it done.
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