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Morning Wire

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What happened at the end of the Biden administration, however, was that the Democrat-led FCC summarily dismissed the complaint without actually obtaining any evidence that would be relevant to making that decision. Now, again, usually you don't get out of the starting blocks with these, but there was extrinsic evidence here where CBS played

Morning Wire

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one version of a response or portion of a response in one broadcast and then a separate portion or separate answer in another portion. And so that created the extrinsic evidence that would allow the FCC to need to obtain the underlying transcript or video which we've done. And now we've determined that it's in the public interest to let the American people express their own views.

Morning Wire

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People feel passionately about this. They feel like CBS did something wrong. Other people feel like CBS did normal editing. And everybody now has an opportunity to make their voices heard at the FCC. And in terms of where our process is, we're just taking input at this point. We haven't reached a final decision on the merits, but we will eventually when the record is complete.

Morning Wire

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Yeah, there's been some interesting reactions. I think you have everyone from Catherine Herridge, who is a well-known reporter and very diligent on these issues. I think her view that she's expressed on X is that, to her, this looked like it went beyond normal editing. We've heard from other people that say this is just normally shortening up an answer, run-of-the-mill things.

Morning Wire

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But look, I think there's a lot of lack of trust right now in media, and that's part of why I wanted to open this proceeding was so that nobody feels like There's a decision that's being made behind closed doors where something's been swept under the rug. And again, stepping back, trust in media right now is at an absolute all-time low. And that's not just my opinion alone. Look at Jeff Bezos.

Morning Wire

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He had that op-ed out there where he said that the news industry has fallen from actually one of the most trusted institutions many years ago to now being less trusted than even Congress itself, which is not good. You're sort of in the basement at that point. And at least with respect to broadcast media...

Morning Wire

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That's where the entities have a public interest obligation because they're licensed by the FCC. And for decades, the FCC basically walked away from that and didn't put any sort of requirement at all. I think one thing that hopefully people have seen over the first few weeks of the Trump administration and here at the FCC is that we're going to reinvigorate that.

Morning Wire

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I think we're seeing an even-handed application of the law. There's a quote from Thomas Sowell that I'll change a little bit. But whenever people have benefited from discriminatory government practices, even-handed treatment then itself feels like discrimination to them. So step back.

Morning Wire

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At the FCC, for instance, we had this deal with Elon Musk where we were going to provide high-speed internet to hundreds of thousands of rural Americans for pennies on the dollar. And that was abruptly revoked by the FCC. And what I said at the time was plainly sort of political retribution against Elon Musk. Or flash forward to the other side of the coin.

Morning Wire

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where George Soros' aligned group sought to get special, streamlined, expedited treatment from the FCC to obtain 200 radio stations, and the FCC created a special, unprecedented Soros shortcut. And so when you move into a world in which every regulated entity is now getting fair and equal treatment, people say, well, isn't this discrimination? But again, I think people have to level set

Morning Wire

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as to where we've been over the last couple of years. And to be clear, there's plenty of people that are wailing and gnashing teeth about the conduct and the investigations that I'm launching at the FCC. This past week, I also announced an investigation into Comgas and NBC for their DEI practices. But these are the same people that were completely silent when the FCC was engaging in those things.

Morning Wire

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My view is everyone gets a fair shake at the FCC now, and we're just going to call balls and strikes. And if people don't like it, it is what it is. But In my view, it would be sort of the definition of corruption if I, you know, cared what people thought in terms of, well, you're going too hard on this broadcast or that broadcast or you're being too nice to this person.

Morning Wire

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So shouldn't you pull punches? Like, no, that's like the definition of corruption. So if you think that I'm going too hard in one direction, I don't care. You know, we're just going to do what's in front of us and make the best decisions that we can.

Morning Wire

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Yeah, so President Trump came in and is sort of leading the country away from this really dark period, this scourge of what I view as illegal.

Morning Wire

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dei discrimination he did two executive orders right off the bat one that ends dei with respect to the federal government itself and we've followed that policy at the fcc we've now ended the fcc's own promotion of dei and i got to tell you people would be shocked If they knew how much both money and time and resources their federal government was spending on DEI.

Morning Wire

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The FCC alone, which is roughly a $350, $400 million a year agency, we were spending millions of dollars promoting DEI. It was in our budget. We had it listed as our number two strategic priority. and we were just way off course in terms of core missions.

Morning Wire

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Second, President Trump issued an executive order that asked the heads of agencies to look at the private sector businesses that we regulate and see if they're engaging in illegal DEI. Because after all, DEI has long been illegal in this country, in my view, because it's in violation of civil rights laws. At least some versions of DEI, you can have various forms of DEI policies, to be sure.

Morning Wire

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And so what I've done with Comcast is I've started there. I sent a letter to Brian Roberts, the CEO of Comcast, asking questions about both Comcast and NBC, which is part of this whole same suite of companies, and letting them know that we've started an investigation at the Enforcement Bureau because

Morning Wire

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They still very publicly on their website have a lot of substantial information there about DEI programs that they're promoting. We've also started with Comcast because they're in many, many different sectors that we regulate. They're a cable provider. They provide internet. They own broadcast TV stations. And we call it MVNO wireless provider. You can get wireless service through them as well.

Morning Wire

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But the key is that's just the beginning. My expectation is that every single entity that the FCC regulates, if they have any, of these illegal, discriminatory DEI policies. I'm hoping that by starting with Comcast, everybody gets the message. Again, we want equality. We want fairness. We want everyone in this country to have a fair shot. We want merit to rise to the top.

Morning Wire

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Yeah, great to be with you. Thanks so much.

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And maybe there's things that people are doing under the term DEI that are totally appropriate. But that's exactly what we're going to get to the bottom of here.

Morning Wire

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Yeah, this one's really interesting. So there's been a lot of attention on NPR and PBS recently for a couple reasons. One, there was sort of a former employee at one of these companies that spoke out about a lot of the editorial decisions that they had been making. And if you step back, NPR, PBS are taxpayer funded.

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That means that every single American is forced to subsidize the materials that come out of there. And if you look back historically, they broadly appeal to a pretty conservative Good representative cross-section of the country. And Uri Berliner had a piece out where he described that they've increasingly become focused on just sort of appealing to a very niche audience portion of the country.

Morning Wire

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And I think it's right for people to ask questions about should every single American be forced to subsidize that when it's seemingly only being directed at a very narrow portion. But to put that to the side for a second, that's one issue. The second issue is the debate in Congress about should Congress continue to fund NPR and PBS.

Morning Wire

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My own view is I don't see a reason why we should do that given the breadth and depth and diversity of viewpoints and outlets that now exist as compared to the 1960s when Congress first went down this path. But for the FCC, there's a unique issue.

Morning Wire

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all these stations the individual stations that air this programming they're licensed by the FCC as non-commercial stations meaning they can't air commercials and yet it may entirely be the case that NPR and PBS are airing things across the line from permissible sponsorship identification and underwriting into things that look and feel an awful lot like commercials and again maybe this is an area where the FCC stepped back on enforcement over the years

Morning Wire

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But I think we should lean in, and that's what we're going to do, because A, we want to make sure they're living up to their licensed obligations. But B, if they're able to go out there and raise commercial funds to support their programming, then why are we taking taxpayer dollars to support what is effectively a commercial operation? So that investigation is underway as well.

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We are obtaining and taking a look at the various commercials slash underwriting materials that they're putting out there, and we're going to a normal investigation at that point.

Morning Wire

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Well, look, it's one of my top priorities is reinvigorating this public interest standard. And I think, again, when you start from the point that trust in media is at an all-time low, I think the FCC not doing that has certainly not aided in that effort. But it's only a small component of the agenda that I'm going to be running at the FCC. It's one that we've taken early action on.

Morning Wire

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It's one that deals with media, so media covers it. But really, we're running a four-part play at the FCC. One is restoring free speech. This has been long been a priority of mine. We're going to be working to break up this censorship cartel. There's many actions that we are taking and that we're going to be taking more publicly to help restore free speech and rein in big tech.

Morning Wire

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Number two is a lot of this modernizing the FCC's approach to media regulation. That's where we've seen a lot of early action, a lot of early coverage. But three, there's an entire bucket of economic agenda that we're also running. So the space economy, the FCC plays a role there. And frankly, we've just been moving way too slow over the years.

Morning Wire

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We need to move at the pace and cadence of all these launches that we're seeing across the country. So we are reforming our efforts on the space front. Permitting reform, we have a role there. It takes too long to build in this country. We're going to be doing stuff on that front. Spectrum, these are the airwaves that power all these innovations.

Morning Wire

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The Biden administration effectively flatlined when it came to spectrum. We're going to be getting more spectrum into the marketplace. And then four is national security and public safety. Salt Typhoon is an effort what we're plugging in. Obviously, there's a lot of work to do on that front. So we're going to be running this four-part agenda at the FCC.

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But yeah, we've taken some early action on media. It's got a lot of attention. But we've got four years, and we're going to deliver really good results across all of those different metrics.

Morning Wire

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Yeah, of course. You know, when I describe the censorship cartel, it cuts across four or five or six different verticals. So one is you've got decisions that these platforms were making basically on their own to censor the free speech rights of Americans. I didn't think that was a good thing. It sounds like a lot of them were following X's lead and returning back to free speech.

Morning Wire

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Well, the FCC's review is ongoing. To step back, there was a complaint filed at the FCC regarding CBS' 60 Minutes interview with Vice President Harris under something called the News Distortion Rule. This is a rule that goes back 50 years at the FCC.

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You see Zuckerberg saying a lot of good things there. We're going to trust but verify when it comes to him. Two, you saw the jawbone. You had the federal government reaching out, sometimes, you know, Formerly through email, sometimes informally through the phone, suggesting specific posts that should be taken down. I think that's a violation of the First Amendment. And so that is ending as well.

Morning Wire

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And then you have this advertising and marketing cartel that works together. NewsGuard is part and parcel of that. I've written a letter to entities that use NewsGuard. NewsGuard wrote me the letter back. Now, in the volley that we have going on here, NewsGuard will be hearing from me again. I don't see how websites that, for instance, have Section 230 protections – you only get 230 protections –

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if you engage in good faith content moderation. When you look at what we know about NewsGuard and how much of a bad actor they are and part of the censorship cartel, I don't see how any company, Google or otherwise, can continue to rely on NewsGuard and be considered to be acting in good faith as the law requires. And then there's Europe as well.

Morning Wire

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Europe and Brazil globally, a lot of these government regulators are attempting to use different metrics to engage in censorship. Vice President Vance gave a Barnburner, fantastic speech on AI this past week, and he touched on some of that, where you can't regulate American AI in a way that's going to shut down robust, wide-open political debate and political discourse.

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So the censorship cartel hits on all of these different verticals and we need to sort of take action on them. But NewsGuard is a piece of it. The advertising and marketing piece of it is taking conservative websites, conservative channels, and not allowing advertisers to advertise there. I think that's the type of discrimination that we're going to be working to end on.

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It won't just be us at the FCC, the Federal Trade Commission. Chairman Ferguson has said this is a priority of his. I anticipate that the FCC and the FTC will ultimately lock arms and move forward together to make sure that we fully and completely dismantle this censorship cartel.

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All right. Thanks. I appreciate it.

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The reality is it's sort of a one-in-a-million case if you can make out a news distortion complaint, because after all, we don't want the FCC to be authenticating news or to be superintending editorial decisions.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Yeah, thanks so much. Great to be with you again, Charlie. So the FCC, probably the easiest way to think about it is we're sort of a mini Congress almost for tech and telecom issues. So Section 230, which has been abused by big tech companies to censors in the Communications Act. So we have a role there. We regulate media broadcasters.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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So all those local broadcasters are licensed by the FCC to operate in the public interest. But for the last decade or so, the FCC has walked away from enforcing that public interest standard. We have a role to play on national security as well, and also the airwaves. So when you turn your smartphone on, you want it to work, you want it to be fast.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Well, that requires airwaves, and we free up those airwaves and get it into consumers' hands. And so there's a whole bunch of different roles that the FCC plays, and we're moving on Trump time. President Trump came in and fundamentally reshaped the direction of D.C. I haven't seen it in a long time. I've been here for many, many years.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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People are energized, they're excited, and we're following Trump's lead here at the FCC.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Yeah, one of the very first things that President Trump did was he came in and said we are ending the federal government's promotion of DEI. He also issued an executive order calling for agencies to look at private sector DEI practices that violate. federal law. We've been doing both of those at the FCC. Day one at the FCC, I issued an order that ended the FCC's own promotion of DEI.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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We were spending at the FCC alone millions and millions of dollars promoting DEI. We had DEI listed as our second highest strategic priority, promoting DEI ahead of empowering consumers, ahead of global competitiveness, ahead of sort of operational excellence at the FCC. No, promoting DEI was the FCC's second highest priority. We've shut all that down.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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One thing I'm doing now is I'm going through all these companies that the FCC regulates. Disney owns ABC, which is a licensed broadcaster by the FCC. And I got to tell you, what we're seeing there, Charlie, is unbelievable. The initial indications are

The Charlie Kirk Show

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And this comes from some reporting from Chris Ruffo, from Robbie Starbuck, other reports, information from Disney itself, that literally they were dividing employees along race and gender lines, segregating them out, giving potentially different opportunities in the employment workspace. You know, that's a violation of the FCC's own rules.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Equal employment opportunity rules if the evidence end up supporting those original allegations. And I can't think of a more serious potential violation of a broadcaster than engaging in, you know, race and gender based discrimination. We'll see where it goes. We're open minded. But those early signs are concerning.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Yeah, when you step back, a lot of these technology companies have sort of understood what happened in November. They've understood the new direction of the country under President Trump. X obviously always stood in the breach for free speech. Facebook meta has come to the table recently. You know, welcome. You know, we hope that it sort of sticks long term.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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But Google and YouTube in particular have a lot of work to do. And one of the things that's concerning to me is there was a number of reports the FCC got saying, that YouTube TV, which is effectively a cable channel, though it's virtual, it's a cable channel, cable company, has not been carrying, and apparently potentially has this unspoken policy of not carrying religious-oriented programming.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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There was one particular channel in particular that we wrote them about. We're going to see what their full response on that is, but that's very concerning if that ends up being the case. Hopefully this dispute gets resolved favorably.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Yeah, so NPR and PBS, their member stations are stations, radio and TV, again, that are licensed by the FCC. So not only are they unique as compared to other speakers because they have this right to use the airwaves they're licensed for, but they're doubly benefited because they're considered non-commercial stations.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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I mean, they can't run commercials, and because of that, they get extra benefits again. I've opened an investigation into NPR and PBS and their member stations to see whether, in fact, they've been running commercials or some suggestion that maybe they have been. And so we're going to look at enforcement action there.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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But more broadly, this ties into a bigger concern, which is why has Congress been forcing Americans across the country and going into their pocketbooks and making them subsidize NPR and PBS? I don't think there's any good reason for members of Congress to compel people to do that. If NPR and PBS have a particular bias or slant, great, have at it.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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But why don't you support yourself the way every other outlet that has a viewpoint does? It wasn't that long ago, if you did a cross section of NPR and PBS listeners, that you sort of got a cross section of the American electorate. And I think to some extent that makes sense if you're forcing everybody to support it.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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But over the last couple of years, you know, the listenership, the viewership is just clustering, you know, along the northern sector of the Acela corridor. And yet everyone else around the country is having to pay for it. So I don't think that's a great thing. And there was just a hearing, obviously, in Congress a week or so ago where the CEOs testified.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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And ultimately, I don't think they advanced their cause very well before Congress.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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I'm 100% committed to making sure that we smash the censorship cartel. In fact, I'm doing an event just tomorrow over at the Department of Justice with the new antitrust enforcer, Gail Slater, with the chairman of the Federal Trade Commission, Andrew Ferguson, and three of us.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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are working together to make sure that we never go through what Americans lived through, particularly the last four or five years, when this wave of censorship came across the country. You had social media companies themselves, Facebook, censoring lawful political speech of Americans. You had the Biden administration officials jawboning and pressuring people into doing it.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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You have advertising and marketing entities that are part of this cartel that are enforcing it. We've got to end that and make sure that we can never, ever go back to it. The truth is, If you look at trust in national media right now, it's at an all-time low. I mean, look, literally people have more faith in gas station sushi than they do the mainstream media, including ABC, CBS, and NBC.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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That's why social media is so important. That's why social media and speech on the internet and podcasts are under attack because it lets people go around saying, that traditional establishment media. And everyone has realized, you know, the emperor has no clothes. They've so consistently gotten so many important stories wrong, and people only know about it because of free speech on the internet.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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And so it's a threat to their business model. It's a threat to their power. And that's why we need to make sure that everyday people from podcasts to internet speech to YouTube TV have the ability to get a wide variety of viewpoints out there. And look, it wasn't that long ago that this was like a progressive value, diversity of opinion. I think You know, you and I have talked about this.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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I think we're, you know, the modern day op-ed actually launched on the pages of the New York Times of all places in 1970 because there was an editor there, a guy, progressive editor by the name of John Oaks. He said back then, diversity of opinion is the lifeblood of democracy. The moment we insist on Everyone thinks the same way we do. Our democratic way of life is in jeopardy.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Progressive New York Times editor in the lead up to that 1970 launch of the op-ed, and look where we are now. We need to sort of re-embrace as a culture this idea of free speech, this idea of diversity of opinion. But there's a role for us at the FCC and across the government, and we're going to get it done.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Yeah, it's pretty wild to see the radical left complain that there wasn't enough censorship on social media. You know, you got Hunter Biden laptop store, you got all sorts of COVID discussions that were completely shut down. Again, I think with President Trump and the White House, we were exiting this era of massive censorship across the U.S. There's still work to do.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Us at the FCC, DOJ, across government, we're going to do it. But your point, there's a big concern globally as well. We saw this with Brazil last year. They effectively shut down X because they would not censor people purely for political viewpoints are being expressed there. Europe right now is in a whole lot of trouble.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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As you indicated, they have this new law they passed called the DSA, the Digital Services Act, which effectively requires, and I would argue targets, U.S. technology companies and encourages them to engage in censorship conduct. Vice President Vance went to Europe and was spot on. He gave a speech saying, look, we're going to develop AI. America is going to lead the world with gold standard AI.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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You can join us if you want. You can benefit from it as well. but you can't be imposing these ideological biases into AI through this DSA, through this regulation of technology companies, because there's a real fork in the road on AI. You've got China, which is heading down their path. They've got DeepSeek. If you ask DeepSeek what happened at Tiananmen Square, they say nothing.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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It was a great day. If you ask them You know, how are the Uyghurs doing? They'd say perfectly fine. They're getting a great education in a camp-like environment. So the world is going to split when it comes to AI. There's going to be the authoritarian censored version that China's going to push. There's going to be the gold standard that we lead the world on.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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And Europe is sort of at the crossroads. They can join us, but no censorship. But again, this idea that technology companies, you know, haven't been censoring over the last couple of years, that's not the reality I think anybody's been living in.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Yeah, I mean, just again, just look at Brazil. This Justice Desmarais issued this decision to shut down X last year. He said expressly in his decision that he was acting to prevent what he described as anti-democratic acts. And they went on to find what is an anti-democratic act.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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It was essentially going into a voting booth with information in your brain not approved by the incumbent political party. That's an anti-democratic act. That's what we're seeing across the board. To your point, people are having new access to information. They're getting around old gatekeepers.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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We're seeing a real effort to clamp down on availability of wide open political debate, political discourse, but we need it. Free speech is democracy's check on authoritarianism, and we've got to continue to stand at the rampart to defend it.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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Yeah, you're right. One thing is we're moving away from weaponization. The Biden years really weaponized all of our country's communications laws. If your last name was Soros, well, you got a sweetheart deal on a streamlined basis. If your last name was Musk, well, Starlink lost millions and millions of dollars worth of contracts.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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What we've committed to now is everyone's getting a fair shake from this FCC. Now, Democrats don't like that. They claim that I'm discriminating against their sacred cows, but I would simply say this. The entities that benefited from the two-tier system of justice that prevailed during the Biden years are now getting even-handed treatment from me.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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And that feels like discrimination to them because they were used to benefiting from weaponization. But we're running a very aggressive agenda. We're following President Trump's lead. To your point, we're going to be boosting Starlink. We're going to be boosting competitors even to Starlink to get more connectivity out there. We're trying to push more airwaves. out there.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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You know, frankly, the Biden administration kind of walked us into a cul-de-sac where China now has a massive lead on us on Spectrum, which is needed for next generation connectivity. We've got to close that gap on them. But we're running an aggressive agenda. We're bringing people back into the building at the FCC.

The Charlie Kirk Show

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I think just yesterday I pulled the numbers and we're at four times the number of people are in the building now than we're on the average day last year. So we're doing a lot right now and having fun, too, which is important.