
Listen to Charlie's full conversation with California Gov. Gavin Newsom on the first episode of his new podcast. The two of them discuss men in women's sports, why liberals are suddenly faltering so badly with young people, why conservatives are winning the podcast space, and more. Plus, Charlie cuts in with a few follow-up thoughts of his own at a few key points in the episode.Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Chapter 1: Why is Charlie Kirk's podcast gaining attention?
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I'm going to be giving commentary throughout this conversation about some of my thoughts, but it is the entire thing that you'll be able to watch. Also, the full unedited, let's just say with no commentary, is on Gavin Newsom's YouTube page, but I think you want to stay right here. Make sure you guys hit subscribe on this extremely viral conversation that I had with Gavin Newsom.
Starts out with Gavin Newsom talking about how his son is a big fan of mine? history of Turning Point USA, history of what we've done at Turning Point USA, and our goals and mission. By the way, anyone out there, you guys should get involved with Turning Point USA. You should start a Turning Point USA chapter. You should get involved with Turning Point Action. We are moving the dial.
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Chapter 2: What was Gavin Newsom's son's reaction to Charlie Kirk?
You asked a good faith question. Like, how do we Democrats get out of the wilderness? Yeah. This one is an 80-20 issue. New York Times poll, right? No, I agree with you. We're getting crushed on it. Crushed. And you have an opportunity in the state to be like, look, I have a heart for A.B. Hernandez. I have a heart for the San Jose volleyball player. Let's give them compassion.
What's not fair is just for like a woman's, entire woman's sports. I agree. By the way, I agree with you. I agree with you.
And it's interesting. I stress tested this, Charlie. I was wondering. You know, in California, and I've been a leader in the LGBTQ places, as you know, back in 2004 was marrying same-sex couples. And I know we have different opinions on marriage equality. And so I've been at this for years and years. I take a bad seat to no one.
But I was actually on the issue of sports, which in the last few years has just exploded. Trying to understand and understand the 10 athletes in the NCAA, 510,000 athletes, but 10 athletes. But how profound, and even my own friend cohort, people saying, what the hell is going on? Why aren't you calling this out? When did this happen?
So in 2000, turns out in 2014, years before I was governor, there was a law established that established the legal principles that allow trans athletes in women's sports. But the issue of fairness is completely legit. So I completely align with you. And we've got to own that. We've got to acknowledge it.
I don't say that through the prism of politics because you disagree with same-sex marriage on principle. And so I'm not, and by the way, I value the fact that you're not trying to walk away from that principle because electorally, I'm in the minority of that.
Yeah, in the minority.
And I don't want to walk away from this principle because it's electoral, but it is an issue of fairness. And I think Democrats have lost that.
I wish that we would have done this podcast last week. Last week? Well, because the U.S. Senate just voted, every Democrat voted against that bill. And I'm just telling you, like, again, I'm not one to give Governor Newsom advice. You guys are giving us an 80-20 issue that is just permeating the country. It's such an affront to our senses.
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Chapter 3: How did Charlie Kirk start Turning Point USA?
California runs an interesting contract trend.
I found it to be illuminating, though, that despite, I mean, there was really like no opposition. It was like a couple hundred like Asian activists. Honestly, I have to go back to it. But I just want to say, you asked the question, what did wokeism look like? Prop 16 in California that would have had legalized racial discrimination.
That was not a major, there was a broader national narrative.
I'm just bringing it home to you because there were hundreds of such ballot referendums, right? Yeah. There was, you know, city council meetings where they said the white people aren't allowed here, right? That's not good. No, it's not good. And so what ends up happening is a broader question of sensible, not racist suburban moms that are like, wait a second, I have an eight-year-old white son.
Are you trying to say he's a racist? Yeah. And it creates a backlash that then bubbles up, right?
I appreciate that perspective. And I appreciate not just the perspective. I totally appreciate what you just said as an explicit statement of fact to make an eight-year-old feel like they're racist is absurd and outrageous.
But Governor, with all due respect, that's happening right now in California public schools. And I'm not trying to drill you on it. I'm just being honest. You could say that, but maybe you should convene a special session and say no more race-based teaching against white people in the schools of California. California or Asians. I'm just saying, though, that, like, this is not a conjecture.
It's not a hypothetical. It is embedded into the DNA of the Democrat Party.
Yeah, okay. I appreciate it. I mean, the whole CRT stuff.
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