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Tom Nichols: Secrets and Lies

18 Jul 2025

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If anyone in America was still thinking that Trump's ties to Epstein were a nothingburger, Trump’s own behavior this week has probably disabused them of that notion. His panicking and flailing around sure seem exactly like how a guilty man would act. And the sudden firing of Jim Comey's daughter, Maurene—who worked on the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell cases at the DOJ—isn't helping to tamp down the conspiracy theorizing. Meanwhile, Tulsi and Kash are trying to ferret out the unfaithful, and there are still adults in the room when it comes to the Fed. Plus, our nuclear command and control system was organized around the assumption that we would have a sane president, not somebody who has psychotic fantasies about the Unabomber. Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod. show notes Tom on the McCarthyist moves by Patel and Gabbard The president and the nuclear button, part of The Atlantic's August issue Tom on Hollywood and the fear of nuclear catastrophe James Clapper was banned from a service dog graduation at the CIA Tim's playlist

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