Andrew Schlecht, Dave DuFour and Es Baraheni discuss the fallout from the NBA Draft Lottery. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Chapter 1: Who are the hosts discussing the NBA Draft Lottery fallout?
Welcome to another edition of the Morning Shootaround here on the Athletic NBA Daily YouTube feed. We go live every Wednesday, mid-morning, just to chat with you guys about the NBA and the goings-on and just a nice little platform for us to talk a little bit deeper, maybe get some points out that we don't have time to, typically, on the regular show. Athletic NBA Daily. I'm Andrew Schlecht.
With me, Dave DeFore, Esper Haney. We are going to talk about the fallout. from the draft lottery.
Gross.
And what it means for these particular teams. We can start with the Raptors if you want. No!
God, no.
Let you get it off your chest. You want to wait?
Yeah. They're like the sixth most, seventh most interest. I don't even know.
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Chapter 2: What were the surprising outcomes of the NBA Draft Lottery?
Oh, keep going. Keep going. Yeah, yeah. Keep going. They're like... 28th, 29th most interesting, if we're being honest. Come on.
Yeah. No, I mean, lottery-wise, I don't think they're – I mean, seven and nine is not that big of a difference to me. Yeah. It would have been nice to jump to one or two. Yeah. And I know there was that whole thing yesterday where – There were a bunch of reports coming out where it was like, oh, if it was this combination and they were one number off or one number this way and whatnot.
The Bulls were close to winning the lottery. The Spurs had the best odds at one point to win the entire thing and get number one overall, which would have just been terrible. This is why I don't gamble. Yeah. Would the Spurs have been worse than the Mavericks for you guys?
Yes, absolutely. Wow. Absolutely. I don't know.
I don't know. I think it's kind of interesting, right? It turns into a 2K franchise then, right? Where you trade, you know, you tank or you don't even tank. You just trade away players and you get draft picks and you wind up with all the top picks. Yeah. That's kind of cool. The De'Aaron Fox thing is kind of in the way there. Yeah. Where it's a fully... be what it could be, but I don't know.
I think the Dallas thing is the funniest thing that could have happened by far.
It's the funniest. It's also the one where the conspiracy theories around it make more sense than the reality.
Yeah.
The NBA has found themselves in a tricky spot because there's so many conspiracy theories that have existed throughout the NBA for years and years and years.
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Chapter 3: Are NBA Draft Lottery conspiracy theories justified?
Kyrie Irving. We got you.
We got the New Orleans Pelicans. Oh, man. Sorry about that. You guys going to L.A.? We got something for you. Oh, Mavericks, you know what? We really need a boost in the ratings.
Yeah, there you go.
What would help most is to get a star in L.A. You know what? Don't worry. We got your back.
Bring a Cooper flag. You could really sell yourself on this, by the way.
This is not conspiracy theories. They do. Exactly. It's so close. You can fake anything you want. Exactly.
It makes way more sense than the reality that... Well, that team that had 1% chance to actually win it, that... Oh, come on.
Well, 1% is a million.
I mean, it's... it's a huge chance there was what 1001 different combinations that could have happened yeah and that was the comp it's people do bring up the basketball gods in this situation and we we talked about it on the pod it's like they work they work in mysterious ways this was some sort of weird no one's working in a mysterious way people are pulling strings come on basketball i do i
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Chapter 4: How could the NBA Draft Lottery system be improved or rigged?
That makes sense.
I could totally see that. I love that. It makes me like DECA more. I like that.
Yeah, you get up in a little suit and tie and you're like, well, this presentation. NBA teams should do that for the lottery. Can I expound on that?
Yes, go for it. I've thought about this a lot. What you could do is a salary scale instead of a draft lottery. Worst record, you get to offer the most money in a rookie contract.
and then the players is that enough of an incentive though well depends if you're if you're cooper flag and you know uh the wizards come and they say hey we can give you 30 million dollars a year four-year contract it's guaranteed as a rookie not bad or you're playing for the minimum or whatever it is.
Yeah, the minimum for the Lakers.
But it is a free market. Because endorsements. Now, the problem is it's not meant to distribute talent. It's not meant to. Because the best organizations are going to figure out.
That's the problem. That's the problem I have with all of this. Like, hey, we need to change it. I mean, here's the deal. No matter what happens, people are going to want to change it. There's no perfect system.
They voted 29-1 for the current odds and they really hate it. The one team, though.
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Chapter 5: What impact do draft picks have on NBA team success?
Kyrie is probably 2011, right?
He doesn't win it if LeBron doesn't go back.
It's a different world, though. The talent curve is so different now than it was in the 90s. I mean, even the early 2000s. Just players are so much better, right? So the bottom of the draft has come up closer to the top of the draft. That's another thing that's at play here, right? Part of why we have so much parity in the NBA is that
There's I mean, there's so many good role players like Aaron Neesmith, right? Like this guy, he gets drafted by Danny Ainge just because of his body. Yep. And he turns himself into this kind of player. So it's just I don't know. I do think it's tough because these small markets cannot compete. They just can't like no one's signing in Charlotte ever.
Yeah, that's they just have to draft better, man. They just have to hope that like, I don't know, Derek Queen or Trey Johnson or whoever they end up picking at five, six, seven is better than Dylan Harper or.
I actually think, you know what? The teams that get out of that, you know what? They're the best at is pro personnel scouting. They're the ones that – like Ty Jerome, you know what I mean? They find those guys.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, this guy just needs more of an opportunity.
Not a great time to bring Ty Jerome, by the way. Yeah, not the best time.
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Chapter 6: How important are player measurements and analytics in the draft?
It's true. Yeah. I mean, look, Lamello and Brandon Miller. It's like it's cool, but they have not nailed it.
Is it cool?
I think it is.
I still think it's cool.
Who's he going to get it for?
Who do you like it for for them?
I haven't done any drafts. I think for them, it's like you pray that Vijay Edgecombe is there.
That would be so good for them. What does he do?
He's a two-way defensive monster, crazy athlete. Not a crazy guy who can create for you offensively, but that's Lomelo and Brandon Miller's job anyways. He can take advantage of the...
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Chapter 7: What are potential trade scenarios involving Anthony Davis and the Mavericks?
6'6 wingspan.
Can he shoot it enough?
He's a really good shooter.
Yeah, absolutely.
On the move?
Yeah, he's either the best or second best shooter. I think I saw one game this year. Yeah, I like him.
I think he can really play.
He would have been a great pick for OKC if they had kept that pick. That would have been...
Yeah. That would have made a lot of sense. Yeah. Now that he's only measuring at 6'5", there's numbers like 6'7".
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Chapter 8: What is the outlook for NBA small market teams and rebuilding strategies?
Because I do like the fit with him and Lively, with Coop and Lively. I love that. Especially if Lively can shoot. Yeah, go get somebody that can create. Man, imagine if they had an offensive hub. They're not going to do it. They're absolutely not going to do it. But you know what? He should. Yeah. He should absolutely trade Anthony Davis today. But defense wins championships, man.
He's not going to do that.
The thing is, they're not going to be as good because Kyrie's going to be out. Who are they going to get to play guard?
That's what I'm saying. They should make a – like they should – I would say – I would call Rob Palenka and be like, hey, Derek Lively for Austin Reeves. There you go.
Or Daniel Gafford for Austin. You know what? That's not enough. For Austin Lakers.
For Austin Reeves. Oh, absolutely not.
Yeah. It's got to be more than that. I don't think Dallas has the juice, really. Like, lively, maybe. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Lively for Austin. But I'm not giving up lively. But Nico might. I don't know. You never know. It's a weird situation. But I do think, like... The smart move would be move – it's similar to what you've got like Boston has a similar kind of situation, right?
Like Kyrie's going to be out next season, most of the year, and what's he going to look like right when he comes back? Probably not great if we're judging on history. Yep. Okay, so next year is probably – if it's not a lost season, you're in the play-in. in the West at best. They were on the play-in this year. That's what I mean, right? So you're right back where you were.
So does that make any sense? Anthony Davis is 31. He'll be 30 next year. He's age 32 season. So by the time you're even thinking about actually being competitive, it's a whole other calendar year. He's 33. You're about to sign him to another max because that's just how the NBA works. And your competitive window is already closed. Yeah. Because Kyrie's going to be 36 when he comes back, 35.
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