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Michael Malone out in Denver + Thunder get revenge on Lakers

Wed, 09 Apr 2025

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Shai Gilgeous-Alexander scored 42 points to lead the Oklahoma City Thunder to a win over the Los Angeles Lakers. Dave DuFour and Es Baraheni talk to Andrew Schlecht postgame to discuss the Thunder win, Shai’s big game, and Luka Doncic’s ejection. Then, Adam Mares from DNVR joins the show to discuss Michael Malone’s firing, Jamal Murray’s health, and what comes next for the post-Malone Denver Nuggets and Nikola Jokić.Host: Dave DuFourWith: Es Baraheni, Andrew Schlecht, & Adam MaresExecutive Producer: Andrew SchlechtAudio Producer: Grayson Moody Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Chapter 1: What happened in the Thunder vs. Lakers game?

758.259 - 773.412 Dave DuFour

Jason Tatum hits a game-tying shot with about three seconds left with OG Ananobi all in his face to force that overtime. The Celtics needed overtime, but they beat the Knicks 119-117. The Knicks... Still haven't beat a good team, S.

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773.432 - 795.93 Es Baraheni

0-9 versus Cleveland, Boston, and OKC. They're just one step below those guys. That's just it. There's nothing wrong with that. Three teams that are having pretty, pretty good seasons, all going to have 60-plus wins once Boston wins another game. But at the same time, they're just not at that level where they're going to be competing for a championship against these teams necessarily.

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795.97 - 806.913 Es Baraheni

Maybe that changes in the playoffs. I thought the Knicks played a really good game tonight, but the Celtics also dealing with their own things. Jalen Brown only played 20 ish minutes for them, was dealing with a knee thing throughout this one.

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807.693 - 815.735 Es Baraheni

And so that's sort of the question moving forward from the Celtics side of things is how does Jalen Brown look over these next two weeks as they prep for the playoffs?

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816.215 - 835.803 Dave DuFour

Yeah, and the Celtics have been great. 20-4 since the All-Star break. You know, I kept hitting, banging this drum. Number one offense in March, 30th in pace. They have been fantastic. Porzingis, you know, he hits the go-ahead three in overtime here. Like, you start to see things come together. And now this Jalen Brown knee thing is kind of raising its head.

835.883 - 854.052 Dave DuFour

And, you know, the debate here is, do you rest him? Or do you, you know, let him play through it like he's doing now and hope that he's ready to go for the playoffs? And, I mean, frankly... I don't know, because this team, I still feel as if they are the favorites to win the title. They did it. You know, we just saw them do it.

854.153 - 867.561 Dave DuFour

And I think that when you look at the way that they've been playing here in the lead up to the playoffs, it kind of backs that up. Yeah. But they need to be perfect and they need everyone healthy. And Jalen Brown is such a huge piece.

868.601 - 882.946 Es Baraheni

You know, obviously they missed Kristaps Porzingis last year in the playoffs for the most part, but health was a big reason this team ended up in the finals just because their other guys, their core guys were able to stay healthy, right? There was no real issue for Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum throughout that postseason.

884.306 - 904.26 Es Baraheni

I think this team though can probably win their first round series without Jalen Brown. And so I'm not saying they're going to do that. I don't think they're They would do that. But there's there's a pretty decent chance that if it's, you know, Atlanta or Orlando or whoever, they're probably going to win that series even without Jalen Brown. And so do you do you start to consider that?

Chapter 2: How did Luka Doncic get ejected during the game?

1255.421 - 1270.069 Adam Mares

You look at it and say, OK, a thing breaks the other direction and maybe they go on to the finals. So I think it was easy to assess that in the last year. But this year, you look at it and say, what's going to show up? The potential of last year, the good parts of it, or the concerns?

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1270.269 - 1287.356 Adam Mares

And I think this year was just triple the level of concerns, the exact same ones, only more so, and none of the excitement of the previous two years. So it just became obvious that the leadership of both of those guys mixed together in a thing that became toxic and I think ran its course in Denver. Yeah.

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1287.916 - 1302.822 Dave DuFour

And some of the stuff that's that's been coming out through press conferences the last month, month and a half. I mean, you have Michael Malone being a little bit more aggressive, I would say, and calling out the players saying they were full of it basically and didn't watch film and, you know, calling out the defense here recently.

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1304.183 - 1320.895 Dave DuFour

Russell Westbrook had a bit of an in-game meltdown and cost them a huge game the other night. And he hasn't really spoken to the media. And I wonder like when I see stuff like that, you know, Adam, you know, I've been in those rooms and I understand like, OK, there are a lot of fractures happening.

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1321.716 - 1330.14 Dave DuFour

To fire the coach with six games left in the season, this is unprecedented for a team that's going to be in the playoffs and has the best player in the world.

1330.3 - 1350.348 Dave DuFour

So, you know, you make the case for me that they are going to get fired up from this and this is going to spur them on into a title instead of what's happened to the Grizzlies, which since they've let go of their coach has just gone into a complete free fall. We're questioning whether they're going to move on from Ja Morant.

1351.776 - 1370.003 Adam Mares

I can't make that case for you because this doesn't happen. This is the latest firing in NBA history tied for the latest firing. Going back to Hubie Brown 50 years ago, that was the last time a player was a coach was fired with three games remaining in the season. So this is not something that I think is a genius move. I think it's a last ditch move.

1370.103 - 1385.149 Adam Mares

This is a well, we might as well do it now because we're definitely going to do it. The only other case because I can't make the case that the Nuggets are going to do this. They have Jokic. That's the case. Right. The ceiling is high. That's what we've been saying. Right. And you can shorten your rotation in a playoffs. So depth is obviously a problem for Denver.

1385.169 - 1403.537 Adam Mares

Can you shorten that enough to that? There's just six and a half guys and you win with that. I mean, probably not, but that's the case. But the other thing I kept thinking was Jokic is also great enough to carry you to a conference finals when you don't deserve it. And I do wonder if part of the calculus here was we know what we need to do.

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