"Kamala Harris"

376.571 - 402.046 Kamala Harris

And so you can see in the PPP, for example, so in the Paycheck Protection Program that we instituted that was intended to give relief to small businesses, and so many small businesses, real small businesses, did not get the benefit of it because they don't have the relationship with the fancy banker, right? They're not on a first-name basis with the banker. They may go to a community bank.