Serialously with Annie Elise
246: Tinder Serial Killer, Valentine’s Day Murder, Fire Captain Stabbing, Cannibal Released, & Deadly Black Widow
Thu, 27 Feb 2025
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Chapter 1: Who is the guest on Annie Elise's upcoming deep dive episode?
I had a really special guest in the studio earlier this week and we were recording an episode for a deep dive that's coming up and I think we're going to release it on March 10th, don't quote me on that, but it's a very long episode and it's She is just incredible. She firsthand shares her story of something horrific that happened to her and her family, and she survived it.
I don't want to tell too much about it. I feel like she should be the one to share her story. You may have seen part of it on her TikTok because it went viral. I think it's over 10 million views or something like that. But we brought her into the studio, flew her out from Canada, and spent a lot of time together this week. And
It was really emotional, really powerful, and just she is such a remarkable woman. And I just can't even begin to wrap my mind around what this girl went through. And I say girl because she was so young at the time when it happened.
And unfortunately, it wasn't even like, I don't know, not this expression, not like a one-hit wonder, but like it wasn't a one-time occurrence because tragedy just kept happening throughout her life. And now she is around about 40 years old. And It's just a very, very powerful case and story. And so I'm looking forward to sharing that with you.
And as I said, spent a lot of time with her this week recording. And so it's been a busy one, but it's also been a busy week in the true crime world because there is so much happening. I mean, there are verdicts happening. There are trials happening. There is a verdict that just came in the other day about the boy who killed his twin sister in his sleep. He was claiming sleepwalking.
Prosecution was, of course, claiming otherwise, that this was intentional. I think I'm going to do a deep dive on it because when I started looking into it and finding some of the discrepancies in the information, I was like, obviously, there's no question here. Like, what do you mean?
It almost seemed as clear-cut as the Colin Griffith case that we talked about a couple weeks ago where this kid somehow got found not guilty, this 17-year-old kid not guilty of killing his mom, and he had also killed his daddy a year and a half prior. And he's just, you know, gallivanting around Florida completely free and, like, not a care in the world. So, I don't know.
I'm already starting to go off the rails for this episode. I apologize. I need to reel it in. So anyway, we have a lot of stuff to talk about today because there are a lot of new cases and some updates. One of the cases we're talking about is an arrest that has finally been made in a cold case from 2017 where a mom and her eight-month-old baby went missing under very suspicious circumstances.
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Chapter 2: What is the 2017 cold case that recently had an arrest?
So there's a resolution there. Want to talk to you about it. We also are going to talk about a hit and run, but not just your average hit and run. It was an actual Amazon driver hit and run who literally got out of his truck, saw what he had done, jumped back in his blue Amazon truck or, you know, whatever. I'm just saying that, but delivery truck and then sped off and went away.
We also are going to talk about a Valentine's Day massacre. And what I mean by that is like this guy got so pissed off that his partner didn't respond to the way he wanted her to about his gift that he went into like overdrive and stabbed her 40 times. And it is just like sick.
We're also going to talk about this case about a Tinder scammer who not only scammed people, but also turned into a serial killer all through using the dating apps. There is also somebody who is known as the Bridgeport Cannibal who had killed a man back in 2013 and was charged, was arrested, was sentenced. But 2013 is only 12 years ago, right? And get this, he's a cannibal. He's getting released.
Getting released. So... We need to talk about that whole case and then the release and what that means. And then we're going to talk about some spouses who killed their spouses. We're going to talk about a 15-year-old who shot someone in self-defense. I mean, there is just, we've got a lot to go over. So I'm going to shut up now.
I'm going to stop talking and I'm going to just kind of like get right into it because that's what you want me to do anyway, right? But actually, really quick. Sorry, guys. Actually, really quick. I do... I have a question, and I need your feedback. So whether you're listening to the audio version of this or you are watching on YouTube, please comment. Please let me know.
I also set a reminder already in my phone to remind me to put a poll up on Spotify. But I want to know from you, for the sake of organization or clarity, Do you want me to start titling these episodes as headline highlights February week three or whatever we're in? Or do you prefer that I continue doing what I'm doing?
Because right now the way I'm titling them is I'm putting, you know, a couple words regarding each case or episode. three cases at least in the title. So I would hope that that with then the body of the description saying that it's a headline highlights episode, you guys would be clear on what it is.
But I don't know if that's making it more confusing if you don't want to see a title that has a bunch of case names jumbled up in it. And if you'd rather just be like, oh, headline highlights week three, like got it, check. So let me know what you want. Because like I always say, I could like to consider myself a podcaster of the people. I mean that obviously joking. and sarcastic.
But in a real sense of whatever you guys want me to talk about, and how you want me to package things and organize things and deliver things, I want to make sure I'm doing that because I want to make you happy. So let me know what you prefer for titling or if you're like, Annie, I honestly don't even give a shit. I don't know why you're even asking us this.
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Chapter 3: What happened in the Amazon delivery van hit and run case?
Carlos Johnson, who is that, Kier? That was Chloe's biological father. Yeah. And that's who... we've always known to be the alleged suspect or however you're supposed to say it. That's who we always know, but we just couldn't say, but I'm glad the police finally made an arrest and they can start
Now, there's still not a whole lot that is known about this case or even the circumstances of Carlos' arrest. However, it has been reported that just a few months before Keir and Khloe went missing, Carlos had been Googling things. and not normal Googles that you and I may have on our phone, but we always say the Google history, it will get you every single time, right?
And the Google searches that he was making were things like accidental baby death, how much rat poison is needed to kill a human. Pretty specific, pretty coincidental when then a baby vanishes and then another human vanishes. Doesn't seem like just like your standard everyday Google search. And it also is kind of like a tale as old as time, right?
I will never understand why these people think that Google search history is private or can be deleted or wiped because newsflash or what's that one mean? Newsflash, Dakota Fanning in Uptown Girls. Like your history is always going to be there. It will always be there. So wake up, idiots. Now, to this day, Keir and her baby have still not been found.
However, they are both sadly assumed to be deceased at this point, which is incredibly sad, a mother with her eight-month-old child. And I will never honestly understand why people do these things, because if you don't want to be in a relationship, just don't be.
You know how right now that whole let them theory is going viral of like, oh, if they want to like leave you or if they want to do this to you, if your friends want to treat you like crap, just let them. It's the Mel Robbins theory. Here's my theory. If you don't want to be married, don't be. If you don't want to not cheat and be a scumbag, don't be.
If you don't want to have to murder somebody to get out of a relationship, don't be. Like...
it's just crazy to me that people will go to such extremes because you're just too much of a coward to leave the relationship or to do things the right way right and if you don't want the kid if it's not even about the relationship and you don't want the child then don't be involved I mean do your part with child support and I would never say like be a deadbeat parent because I think that's awful but like it's better than being a murdering parent right like just don't be involved be the deadbeat take the heat for that too from all the judgment you get but like
it's better than the alternative it's better than murdering your child right so i don't know it just i will never understand it blows my mind it really feels to me like such a simple thing to do but right now carlos's preliminary hearing is scheduled for the end of june so i will definitely be keeping an eye out for any updates that come with this case but i am just glad that kieran chloe can finally and hopefully get the justice that they deserve after a whole eight years of it being a cold case
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Chapter 4: How did a Valentine's Day celebration turn into a tragedy?
But instead of stopping, they continue driving at like a somewhat slow of a pace to where the back wheels then go over that same speed bump slash person again. And even if this person thought, okay, I ran over a speed bump or I ran over a lid or a piece of garbage, that's not what happened. The driver knew exactly what happened.
They knew it wasn't just garbage or a lid or something like that, which how do I know that you're asking? Because the driver is seen on this camera footage getting out of the vehicle, standing right next to this poor woman who he just ran over, who was barely moving herself, and then he gets back into the van and he flees the scene. Thankfully, it wasn't too late at night.
It was only around 9.30pm, so there were plenty of witnesses and other people around who immediately called for help. The victim was rushed to a local hospital where she was treated for her injuries, and thankfully, none of them were life-threatening, which is so crazy to imagine. I don't even know how you survive being ran over twice. twice by a van.
But even more crazy is that the authorities know exactly who this driver is. He's a man, as I mentioned, though we don't know his name, it has yet to be released, but he also has yet to be arrested. So a spokesperson for Amazon did release a statement regarding this entire incident, in which they said, "...we were made aware of this terrible incident.
The driver in question has been suspended from delivering on our behalf and we're working with his employer and with law enforcement as they investigate." Now, at first, that quote confused me a little bit because I'm like, wait, you're Amazon. He was driving an Amazon delivery van. What do you mean you have to check with his employer or you're cooperating?
And what do you mean that he's been suspended from delivering on your behalf? But it made a lot of sense once I actually like turned my brain on because I don't know if you know this, but...
Amazon and a lot of delivery companies, they do have their own drivers who are employed underneath Amazon, but they also hire third-party companies to do their deliveries for them because, as you know, Amazon is such a massive company with prime delivery. It's like, how could you possibly sustain that in-house? So what I gather from this is that, okay, it was one of these third-party drivers.
They had the van. He's been suspended from delivering on Amazon's behalf, but maybe he still is working for this third-party delivery vendor and delivering on other people's behalf. But then it says we're working with his employer and with law enforcement. So, you know, that's what I gather from it. But then again, I'm not a genius. Or maybe I am. I don't know.
Now, I would imagine that hopefully by the time this episode comes out, there will have hopefully been some kind of arrest made, especially since they know who was responsible. But I'm just super glad to hear that this woman is okay. And who knows, maybe Amazon will throw her a nice little payout or a nice little settlement as well.
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Chapter 5: Why was the Bridgeport cannibal killer granted conditional release?
And this other guy, of course, answered because she was calling him and he heard this entire thing go down. The whole murder. Taylor apparently yelled to him, you know, it's your fucking fault. You want to ruin my marriage. You want to tear my family apart. This is your fault. And all this other guy could hear was Debra screaming, Debra begging for help. Just very, very intense.
Taylor ended up stabbing his wife at least 40 times, which seems just so awful and just unbelievable and incomprehensible. I can't even begin to wrap my head around it. That is true overkill. And you're probably going to want to punch me right now for saying this because I've said it before.
and I think I say it and reference it anytime we talk about stabbing cases, but 40 times really is like 80 times because it's 80 motions. And I want you to just think about that for a moment and the amount of strength that it would take.
If you had a pillow in front of you right now, and if you raised your arm up and put it down 40 times, so 80 moves with your arm, I'm doing about 10 right now if you're watching on YouTube and my arm's already tired.
it and the force that you would have to go through a human body it is it takes in not only an incredible amount of strength but in my opinion in situations like this it's like adrenaline kicks in and takes over and it's that's why a lot of the time these cases are described as crimes of passion overkill because you're just going going going you're so mad the adrenaline's taking over it's like you're not even realizing what's happening like they're probably long dead and
a couple stab wounds in there's no need to do 40 but it's almost like you have tunnel vision in that moment so it's just it's hard to wrap your mind around it now even worse is that this entire time the three kids were upstairs asleep in their beds they had no idea that they were going to wake up and essentially lose both of their parents
Now, even though he admitted to everything and basically gave a full confession, he's of course now pleading not guilty, which I can't really be too surprised with that. That is a tactic, and I understand. But this kind of goes back, and I'm going to have to rename it, but like to my version of the let them theory of the don't be, like, If she wants to cheat, okay, I guess that is let them.
Let them. Don't kill someone to where now your three children have lost both of their parents. For what? You could have probably just as easily, I get it, it was a jab to your ego. You set up this beautiful night. You're probably heartbroken that she allegedly cheated on you, that she is leaving you maybe. I don't know. But the alternative would be, okay, you get divorced. It sucks.
It's heartbreaking. Okay. eventually i would imagine you would probably move on maybe it would take a few years i don't know but you'd still have your children they would still have you but now because you allowed the anger to come in the resentment the hostility your children are left without either parent And who wins in that situation? Certainly not you, right? I don't know. And I get it.
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