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New Parents Check Baby Monitor & Find Nanny SLAMMING 5-Day-Old Infant Across Room
Sun, 26 Jan 2025
Dina and Tim know that the footage is going to be bad. They had already seen glimpses… but they weren’t prepared. The baby camera footage shows a 56 year old woman standing at the edge of the bed. She’s emotionless yet she's holding a newborn baby in her arms... She takes a moment before calmly - using all her force - to chuck the baby across the room onto the bed. Ever so calmly she walks over and stuffs blankets into the baby’s mouth and slams her down. This is the case of the worst nanny in San Francisco. And strangely, how a TikTok executive and Snapchat executive get involved in this viral case. Full show notes at rottenmangopodcast.com
Chapter 1: What shocking discovery do new parents make about their nanny?
She's putting her body weight into her hands. She uses her hand to cover the entire baby's face because this baby is a few days old. The face is tiny and she can't breathe anymore. The baby can't breathe. She stops crying. Only then does the woman give one more strong push before walking away from the crib. As she's walking away from the crib, the baby starts crying because that makes sense.
The woman walks back, grabs the baby by the blanket. So, you know, babies have to be swaddled when they're really young because their arms can't be free. So you wrap them in like a blanket burrito. She grabs one side. Now the baby is probably standing, I want to say like a foot away.
a foot and a half off the mattress of the crib and she's holding the baby over the crib and she grabs one piece of the blanket and unrolls it letting the baby roll roll roll and then boom land on the crib free fall into the crib yeah Eventually, the woman takes the baby into her bed, the queen size bed, and starts shoving more blankets into the baby's mouth until the baby stops crying.
Now, what's very interesting is when you watch through this footage, there are moments where the baby is not crying and she will force the baby to cry by either roughly smacking its swaddle or by shaking it with so much force. And then she will enact this crazy violent outburst against the baby.
This is the since viral case of the most evil nanny in San Francisco and how she is now currently free and evading the law. We would like to thank today's sponsors who have made it possible for Rotten Mango to support the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They focus on finding missing children, reducing child exploitation, and the prevention of child victimization.
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And a brief disclaimer before we get started. Today's case involves very graphic descriptions of abuse on a newborn child. If that is understandably too much, if you feel overwhelmed, please take a break. We will see you in the next episode. So with that being said, let's get into it. TikTok was banned for, I think, 24 hours? Yeah, it was a very short amount of time.
And everyone was figuring out, where are we supposed to go? Like, where on earth are we wanted as people who do scroll on TikTok on a daily basis, myself included? And at first people thought, well, the natural movement migration would be to Instagram. I guess like the reels, right? Maybe there. Others thought, remember when Vine disappeared, it was all to YouTube? What if it's like that?
Which side note, Americans collectively decided an enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine. So they were thinking, who else hates the U.S. government other than Americans? Perhaps China. So within a day or two, they don't go to Instagram. We don't go to YouTube. We went to the most downloaded app in the U.S. called Red Note.
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Chapter 2: How did a baby monitor reveal abuse?
I mean, the top comments are Americans leaving comments on Chinese netizens' posts of their day and their lives, and they're saying, I'm here to reunite with my Chinese spy. And then to which Chinese netizens have come to comment, give me your data, finger gun, finger gun.
Chinese students have posted their English homework online, on red, for Americans to help them, which results in them failing because Americans are never taught proper grammar, apparently. And we can't even teach a non-English speaker English. It's been kind of crazy. But right before, that is what Red Note was known for.
There was another big case in China and America involving Red Note and TikTok. It is the Bay Area California nanny case. In the Bay Area, this is around San Francisco, there's this small suburban home and there's a woman who is sticking her head out the window and she's shoving her phone out the second floor window, recording every single person in the driveway.
And there's a row of people in the driveway and they're staring proudly back at her. Like, you're recording me? Okay, fine, record me. And they're spraying the words baby abuser all over her garage doors.
How many people is outside?
Like a good handful of this random place. And there's still remnants of eggshells on her driveway from when her house was egged. I mean, the woman that everyone is calling a baby abuser is an alleged higher up at TikTok.
TikTok?
TikTok, the company. And all of this leads back to a series of posts made on the app Red Note. It's getting crazy, okay? Dina and Tim are on Red Note and they're looking for a Chinese speaking nanny, but in America, they live in San Francisco. But they're on the Chinese app and they want a Chinese nanny who lives in San Francisco. And they're on this like months and months in advance.
They know the due date, they've already gotten all the clothes, the paperwork, all the essentials, and now they're just waiting to give birth. And find a nanny. Dina's not really in a rush, which is why she starts looking so early on. She just wants to make sure that she can find a nanny that she fully trusts.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of hacked baby monitors?
Chapter 4: What unique challenges do confinement nannies face?
Chapter 5: How did the couple find their nanny?
Was the camera the nanny's suggestion? They installed it? Yes. Wow.
Yes.
That's wild.
So a lot of nannies actually want cameras.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But for this case, though.
And she's like, can you check the camera to see if I fed the baby at 2.30 in the morning or at 3 in the morning?
Yeah, this is crazy premeditation. Like, there's so much thinking.
So hold on to that. And she's like, because right now I'm cooking and I can't remember what time it was. And if you're like, why is the nanny cooking? Let me explain. She is a Chinese confinement nanny. This is also very common in Korea, and that's probably why she gets paid around $10,000 a month.
It is, I would say, the pretty accurate belief that the human body needs to recover heavily after giving birth. And in China and in places like Korea, they take it very seriously. Obviously, we should take it seriously in America, but I don't know, the way it's set up, you barely get maternal leave, right? The new mothers will typically be confined to their house for 30 days straight.
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Chapter 6: What was the nanny's reaction to being confronted?
The other mother on Red Note said the nanny was her neighbor's mom and she had hired her for her first child. We contacted this Red Note referral and spoke to her on the phone to inquire about how the nanny was. And ultimately, we decided on a three-month schedule with the nanny. But instead, this is what happened. There's nine clips inside the Google Drive. The video starts with a disclaimer.
This video might be the most malicious maternity nanny in the world. Open carefully. This video is shocking. Warning, mothers with high blood pressure should be cautious.
Are you linking these in source notes or no?
I will. Just be very careful.
I'm not a mother my sister saw the videos and she said it kept her up for like two nights it's very viscerally you see it and you can't unsee it and yeah and she's a mom of two so it was rough the case blows up to the point where even if you type in the words bay area on Douyin and read for a while and not anymore but at that point one of the first results was bay area abusive nanny
everybody starts sharing, re-sharing this video. And at first, I will say netizens' reactions were kind of mixed. A good chunk of netizens, they're busy commenting on the video itself because of just how visceral the image is. But a lot of netizens are also confused by Baby H's parents, Dina and Tim. They're attacking them, going, why didn't you immediately call the cops the night you fired her?
When you found out that she was suspicious, why didn't you immediately investigate further? I'm so mad. Why don't you watch over your own baby? But other netizens post, they start going viral too. And they're also Bay Area moms, and they're commenting, that's the freaking nanny that we initially tried to hire. We interviewed her. One poster says, we saw the original post from Christina too.
And we thought, okay, well, she sounds nice. We get to the phone call stage where I'm talking to the nanny on the phone. The way she spoke and the way she answered questions was quite unprofessional. And then compared to her resume, which was over the top and professional, it just felt like it didn't make sense.
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What actions do the parents take after reviewing the footage?
Interestingly enough, another netizen comes forward and she says, oh, I had such a bad time too during the hiring process. But now with the nanny, with her daughter, Christina. Yeah. So if the netizens discourse is 100% accurate, then this means Christina does work at TikTok as the talent acquisition lead, allegedly. And she's supposed to be helping attract top talent.
Sometimes she'll do interviews when there's some really big talent that she wants to bring over to TikTok, poach, if you will. And I would imagine to some degree she has to be a likable human being. One netizen writes, I was interviewed by Christina. The whole time she was super unprofessional. She made multiple, several attempts to lowball my salary.
Everyone I know in the industry that knows her does not like her. So all these things are coming together online and Christina never reaches out to Dina and Tim at this point. They're posting online and people are putting the pieces together. It appears that Christina, the TikTok employee, is the one that brought her mom through a tourist visa.
allegedly illegally set it up so that she could find a job in America, which she's not supposed to be working on a tourist visa, lied about a bunch of things. And then Christina's husband, so the nanny's son-in-law, was allegedly the one to drive her to Dina and Tim's house for the job.
Now, this is very important because he reportedly, allegedly, makes almost half a million dollars a year working for Snap, the parent company of Snapchat, right? And remember, Nanny Lou said, my daughter and my son-in-law are executives, high-ranking executives in Silicon Valley. It's believed that together they, I mean, total comp, maybe they make like seven figures a year. Who knows?
a million dollar household income, and yet their shitty mother must work as the violent, abusive, borderline homicidal nanny? I mean, that's what netizens can't even wrap their minds around. Because sure, if you don't have money, maybe you force your parents into a job that you know they're going to be
bad at maybe you don't know how bad they'll be but they don't even need her to work they make way more i mean yes the bay area is expensive but are you serious the nanny christina's mom can't even legally work i mean none of this is making any sense so netizens dig even further and they find out that christina had actually posted about her mom way before her being a nanny she was on these forums on wechat so the nanny posts are on red note which is the tiktok refugee app
Then you have WeChat, which is like WhatsApp. And she's posting on there in these groups, these group chats where she recommends her mom as a nanny. And she says, I'm recommending a nanny. My colleague originally booked her. So now she's switching it up.
But this is older than Retinopost? Yes.
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