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Renewing Your Mind

Plato

Fri, 17 Jan 2025

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Considered one of the most pivotal figures in the history of philosophy, Plato’s ideas still impact our world centuries later. Today, R.C. Sproul helps us understand the important principles and paradigms posed by this ancient thinker. With your donation of any amount, request R.C. Sproul’s book The Consequences of Ideas and his companion teaching series as a special edition DVD collection. You’ll also receive lifetime digital access to the messages and study guide: [ ](https://gift.renewingyourmind.org/3812/bible-study-basics%3C/a%3E%3C/p%3E)   Meet Today’s Teacher:   R.C. Sproul (1939–2017) was known for his ability to winsomely and clearly communicate deep, practical truths from God’s Word. He was founder of Ligonier Ministries, first minister of preaching and teaching at Saint Andrew’s Chapel, first president of Reformation Bible College, and executive editor of Tabletalk magazine.   Meet the Host:   Nathan W. Bingham is vice president of ministry engagement for Ligonier Ministries, executive producer and host of Renewing Your Mind, host of the Ask Ligonier podcast, and a graduate of Presbyterian Theological College in Melbourne, Australia. Nathan joined Ligonier in 2012 and lives in Central Florida with his wife and four children. Renewing Your Mind is a donor-supported outreach of Ligonier Ministries. Explore all of our podcasts: https://www.ligonier.org/podcasts

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0.289 - 23.93 R.C. Sproul

We saw the church in the Middle Ages, in the monastic movement and so on, try to deny all things physical. Where does that idea come from? It doesn't come from the Old Testament, where when God creates a physical world, what's His judgment on it? It's good. But remember, in Plato's schema, you have two worlds, the ideal world, the eternal world of ideas, and then this world.

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30.385 - 55.44 Nathan W. Bingham

Ideas have consequences. We've seen that all week, and unfortunately, sometimes those ideas even creep into the church. I'm Nathan W. Bingham, and I'm glad you're joining us for the Friday edition of Renewing Your Mind. Yesterday we met Socrates. Well, today we'll meet a famous student of his, Plato, who is considered one of the twin giants of Western philosophy.

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56.08 - 66.304 Nathan W. Bingham

His influence has been significant, impacting the church in the Middle Ages and even some in the church today. So what did Plato teach? Here's R.C. Sproul to explain.

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69.682 - 98.003 R.C. Sproul

Almost 30 years ago, I had the opportunity to visit my older cousin, who was an Episcopalian priest of the Anglo-Catholic mode in Philadelphia. And this cousin of mine is very refined and cultured. He's a real student of the fine arts. And on that occasion, he took me downtown to Wanamaker's department store.

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98.043 - 130.509 R.C. Sproul

Now, the purpose of that visit was not to make purchases, but because Wanamaker's was featuring a display of a famous painting by Rembrandt von Rheim. And the name of the painting is Aristotle Contemplating the Bust of Homer. And so my highly refined cousin said to me as we approached the store, he said, boy, you're going to get an expansion of your understanding of beauty today, he said, cousin.

130.529 - 159.324 R.C. Sproul

He said, we're going to get to see that world-famous painting, Aristotle Contemplating the Home of Buster. I said, wow. Obviously, I haven't forgotten that slip of the tongue. But today we're going to contemplate a bust, but it's not the bust of Homer, it's the bust of Plato, because I've sort of wanted to have Plato come and visit us as we discuss some of his thinking.

159.504 - 183.451 R.C. Sproul

I was able to secure this bust recently in a trip to Italy in the coastal town of Amalfi, and I also purchased a bust of Alexander the Great. because I thought I shouldn't come home with just one because they tell me the two heads are better than one. But in any case, today we're going to be talking about my friend Plato.

185.322 - 217.581 R.C. Sproul

who along with his most famous student, Aristotle, are considered the real twin giants of Western philosophy. In fact, one historian of philosophy made the observation that all subsequent work in the field of philosophy by future generations and future philosophers There's nothing more than footnotes added to the thinking of Plato and Aristotle. So prodigious were these men in their own day.

217.641 - 232.667 R.C. Sproul

Now, we also notice that I have a chair with me today, and it's not because I'm going to be lazy and sit down and give you a fireside chat. But there's a method to my madness, as I hope we will see in a few moments.

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