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Episode 2703 CWSA 12/28/24

Sat, 28 Dec 2024

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the simultaneous sip?

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at a better time. But if you'd like to take this experience up to levels that nobody can even understand with their tiny, shiny human brains, all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass, a tank or a chalice, a stein, a canteen, a jug or a flask, a vessel of any kind. Fill it with your favorite liquid. I like coffee.

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Join me now for the unparalleled pleasure, the dope of being here today, the thing that makes everything better. It's called the simultaneous sip and it happens now. Go. Oh, well, I thought it was Sunday until just recently. I've been told it's Saturday. Do we have agreement on that? Today's Saturday? All right, good, good. We're starting out with complete agreement.

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I do not like the... All right, that's better. Let's fix that. All right, first of all, a minor announcement. I'm going to try to use, well, two things. I'm going to try to curse less in the coming year. I won't call it a resolution, but year end's a good time to start. And if I do, I'm going to use AI to remove the curse words.

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So YouTube will first, you know, it's live streaming, so any curses will be in there, but we can quickly replace them. There are several AI programs that you just run the video through and it takes out the curse words. So we're going to play with that. I don't know if that'll work. But in theory, you should be able to get a curse-free version of everything, at least on YouTube.

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Chapter 2: Why is there a discussion about talking to animals?

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And then I suppose we can load that up to locals as well. All right. Apparently some researchers are building an AI system to talk to animals. And why it matters is because it could aid human knowledge of our world. Okay. Okay. Talking to animals. That's good. But it could provide a compelling case for giving animals broader legal rights.

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So do you want to live in that world where the animals can talk so they start pestering for broader rights? You know, it's bad enough that your job is being taken from somebody from another country. Do you want to lose your job to a ferret or a giraffe or something? No, much worse. We don't want our animals to talk. They'll be taking their jobs. I'm just joking.

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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the recent homelessness statistics?

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They're not going to take your jobs. But we'll talk about that other thing. So, yeah, I want that so I can talk to my dog. Meanwhile, according to CBS News, homelessness jumped 18% this year. And they say, the title says, it's driven mostly by lack of affordable housing. How do you think they'd know that? So they're quite confidently claiming that. that homeless is up 18%.

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Now, that part they can really just count. It misses the people who are homeless but staying with a friend. But the actual outdoor homeless, they can just count it, and it's up by 18%. But then they go, it's mostly because of a lack of affordable housing. How do they know that? Do you believe that they did a survey of just the people who were added to the homeless

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to know that just the increase was mostly people who couldn't afford houses. Do you think they did that? No, I don't. I think they just wrote a headline that said, homelessness is way up and also rents are high. Yeah, it must be because the rents are high. It might be. But everything we've seen historically is that when you go to the same group of people and you say, hey, I got a deal for you.

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We will subsidize your indoor living. You're now saved. You can leave the streets. You're not homeless anymore. We'll pay for it. And then they say, but do I have to follow your rules indoors? Well, I mean, you have to be like a regular person. Yeah. So I can't be smoking meth and doing fentanyl. Well, we'd rather you didn't do that. Well, then I think I'd rather just stay outside.

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So the people who have mental problems and the people who are drug addicts, they're not outdoors because there is no way to be indoors, even if somebody else pays for it. They're outdoors because all things considered, they prefer it. So do you think CBS News simply guessed what their reason is? Or did they do a survey that they didn't mention in the article?

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Now, if they mentioned it, I didn't see it. So how could you make a claim like that without referencing how you came up with it? So they could be right. I just don't think that they did any research to know if they're right. As you know, Trump has asked the Supreme Court to delay the start of the TikTok ban. Do you remember when you said to me, not you, but people said to me,

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that TikTok should not be banned because of free speech. And I said, but China can manipulate it, so that's a big risk. Well, how big of a risk is it? Well, you know, two things to say. Number one, if Trump gets his way, I think a conservative group of investors will buy TikTok. Can you imagine a world...

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in which X is owned by Musk, and hypothetically, TikTok gets bought by some American right-leaning entity. That would give the political right, or at least the reasonable middle, a lot of clout, it seems like, and it would reduce the risk of China manipulating it. But is there really a risk that China Good old China.

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Is there really a risk that they would do some sneaky thing with an online thing? Come on. Come on. It's China. Has China ever done anything that would make you suspect, hmm, if they had some weapon they could use in the cyber world, would they use it? Of course not. There's no evidence whatsoever that China has any interest in bothering us with any cyber...

Chapter 4: How is China's cyber warfare affecting US infrastructure?

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I'd like to point out, as often as possible, that in 2020, before the election, I said that if Biden won, Republicans would be hunted. Can I take a victory lap? I was mercifully mocked. But my post on that was taken and put into the media in a number of left-wing things just to laugh at it, just to laugh at me. They didn't say, they never said, here are the reasons why you might be wrong.

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They just mocked me for saying that Republicans would be hunted. And then they were. Not every Republican, obviously. That wouldn't have been possible. But if the January 6th prisoners actually won this class action, and I'm thinking they would have a low chance of winning because Are there any lawyers here who could weigh in on this?

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Are you a lawyer who could say, huh, I think they have a chance to get that? Or is it more of a sort of a Hail Mary? They're not really going to win that. What do you think? I don't know. But if they do win, they're going to get reparations. They're going to get reparations.

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And what happens to the black Americans who are looking for slavery reparations if 1,500 largely white Americans get paid reparations for January 6th? It's not going to make everybody happy. It would make me happy. I'd be very happy if they got what they asked for. I wouldn't want to pay for it. I guess I'd be the one paying for it as well as taxpayers. So I don't want to pay for it.

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But if you ask me, do they deserve compensation? I would say yes. Yes, I do. So the question of do they deserve compensation from the government? Hell yes. Just as much as the Japanese American citizens were rounded up under FDR.

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yes yes and yes i think that if several generations went by i probably would say i think you need to let that go so just so i'm being consistent there is some sometimes time matters yeah these people are in the you know the middle of their lives so i think reparations are appropriate So Elon Musk predicts that we'll have AGI sooner than other people.

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He said AGI is artificial general intelligence. What we have now is just AI that's sort of pattern recognition AI. The general intelligence would be smarter than people. And Elon said one could debate whether it'll be smarter than any human by the end of next year or if it'll take two or three years. but it won't be more than five.

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He obviously knows a lot more than I do and most of you do on AI and what's possible and what they're working on. But to the best of my knowledge, nobody has any kind of breakthrough or technology that would even put you on the path to AGI. So what I don't know is if you just kept doing the large language models and maybe you tweak it a little bit,

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do they ever get to the point where they're as good as AGI or is that a completely different architecture and chips and everything else? And nobody's invented it. So it's not like we're 1% of the way there because we don't even know how to get there. So, I'm not going to bet against Elon Musk on AI. Is that fair? But I also don't see any way that this is going to happen.

Chapter 5: What is the controversy surrounding the Biden crime family?

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But in these Internet fights, we always pretend... that if anybody says there are three people in your group who did something wrong, why are you saying every person in my group did something wrong? All right, so there should be a word, there should be like a label for that so that you could dismiss people who do that.

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Probably half of all the people who thought they were debating with me yesterday were pretending they couldn't tell the difference between saying some members of the group are unaligned, according to somebody's opinion, versus all members of the group are defective. How many of you thought that Elon Musk was talking about MAGA in general when he made any of his comments?

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Now, I know my audience is keyed in, and they know that he wasn't talking about it. But so many people just pretended. I think Laura Loomer might have been one of them. It was ridiculous. So that's also a Democrat thing. So Republicans are sort of taking a page out of the

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democrat playbook of you know losing but feeling good now what i mean by losing but feeling good is that the question there were i think at least three separate conversations and and people were conflating them so they could make irrational criticisms of other people so that would be me like saying oh you like you like sunny weather do you But you also like toasters.

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So, I mean, all right, never mind. So then when Elon Musk clarified in a follow-up post that when he said contemptible fools, he was referring to, quote, those in the Republican Party who are hateful, unrepentant racists. They will absolutely be the downfall of the Republican Party if they are not removed. Now, the first thing you need to know

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is that the conversation on X was just flooded with professional or organized trolls. The professional and organized trolls sometimes might be Democrats sending people to cause trouble, might be somebody in the Republican Party who's got something to prove. But they were obvious trolls, and they were the ones who were most racist.

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So the first thing you need to know is that a lot of the people pretending to be MAGA-oriented racists probably could have been fake. They could have been sent by somebody to make the MAGA people fight with each other and look bad. There are definitely... some members of the Republican mega world that some of us would call racist. That's obviously true.

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And Democrats as well and independents as well. Basically every group in America. And no exceptions. Every group has its racism. So that's not the question. The question is whether the people we were seeing yesterday represented anything but trolls. And I don't know. I actually don't know if even one of the really negative comments that I got yesterday were real.

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But when I posted that people should be aware that a lot of what looks like disagreement online, it literally just paid trolls trying to make it look like there's disagreement online. Now, when I said that, I didn't have proof because I was just doing pattern recognition. And somebody asked me, how can you tell somebody who's a troll, Scott? I can tell, and I'm not going to tell you how in public.

Chapter 6: What are the potential outcomes of the January 6th class action lawsuit?

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If you can learn that lesson, that would go a long way. Talking about A doesn't mean you don't care or don't know about B, okay? So A, in this case, is that if you could... find a system that only got you the top 0.01% of engineers, you would be the superpower forever and you'd be in good shape. B is do we have a system that can do that? Nope. No.

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Now, I'm no expert on it, so I'll take the word of all the people who seem to be close to it, who seem to agree on this point. Are you okay with that? Do you mind if I say... that if we could do it, it would be the best thing we could do. We do not have a mechanism that does it. In fact, it does the opposite and brings in lots of people who probably are competing with American jobs.

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So which part do you disagree with? Can both of those be true? So most of my conversation was because it was bugging me that people didn't understand how much horsepower a top 0.01% engineer can bring to a situation. I don't think people have a good understanding that the leverage in that is just off the charts. It's not like bringing in just people who are good at their job.

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That's a whole different conversation, right? So that's the first thing you need to know. And then Grumpy Dad showed me the messy thinking. So I want to just read his comments, and you'll see how the two things, the A and the B, get conflated into one thing, all right?

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So Grumpy Dad on X says, the first major misstep of what Scott would call the internet dads, and that would include me, the bring in the 1% and the H-1B fraud issue are the same. You can't make the meritocracy argument until there is a level playing field. They led to the wrong argument. OK, so the Internet dads, I was watching them operate all yesterday.

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Some of them were not fully informed on some of the issues as they as they weighed in. other people who were better informed, corrected them, added things. And then you watch people start modifying their opinions based on new information that we're getting, extra context. But the internet dads, basically the smart people on the internet who were not being paid for their opinion,

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which includes, let's call them the internet moms as well, or just men and women. But I don't think any of them are confused that there are two topics. When Grumpy Dad says they must be treated as one topic, I say that's just muddy thinking. It's muddy thinking. to say that you can't say it's a good idea to have the 0.01, and also it's a good idea to fix the broken system.

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To me, that's clean thinking. But if you say you have to treat it as one thing, I say, well, that's messy. I get what he's saying. I obviously understand it. He's saying basically the priority is to fix the H-1B. And I don't disagree with that. I'm not even in that conversation. If you think that's a priority, all right, we'll talk about that more, but I'm not disagreeing.

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I'm just saying they're separate conversations, but related, of course. And ironically, a lot of my critics yesterday weighed in, as Grumpy Dad did, to tell me that I don't understand that the goal and the system are different things. Now, those of you who have been with me for a while, just try to grasp the irony of that.

Chapter 7: How does Elon Musk predict the development of AGI?

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But if you can't answer these questions, then consider the certainty with which you hold your opinion. Consider the certainty, all right? If you'd nail these questions, which you will not because they're impossible, then you should have a firm, confident opinion. But if you can't get them, maybe you should just say, I'm not so sure, all right? Question number one.

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Would we be better, America, under the current situation? We bring in foreign workers at lower wages, in many cases, than American workers. Lower wages. And subsequently, because the wages are lower, it helps the industries that are hiring them to be more successful. And then the stockholders of those companies have more money. And then they spend it.

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And because there's more money in the system, people can invest in new businesses and startups and create jobs. So if you bring in foreign workers, and before you get mad at me, this isn't the only question. So you'll get a question that you like in a moment. So low wages gives you more successful companies, which gives you a better economy.

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Better economy gives you a stronger military and protects the country. The cost of that, though, would be American workers would be displaced because they would be replaced by some number of low-cost foreign workers, but it wouldn't be everybody. It would be certain industries, certain kind of jobs. And then those people would be, by necessity, trained for other jobs. So that's one world.

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So the one world, I guess that would be the current world, right? So we bring in the low-cost foreign workers, gives the company some better chance to succeed, but it's at the cost of American workers. So that's one situation. Now compare that with the opposite situation. that we don't bring any low-cost employees in, and we just keep American workers.

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So what would that do to your costs for goods? It would increase them. So you'd have a job, but everything would cost more, and probably a lot more, because labor is a big part of everything. So you've got a job, but there's way more higher costs. Is that good for you or bad for you? It's good for you. It's way better to have a job than it is to have prices that are perfectly low like you like.

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You'd rather be employed. So if you're the worker who loses the job, it's definitely better for you to keep the job, even if it means that some prices are higher. But the prices are higher means that your companies will eventually go out of business. because if they're competing against international companies, they might hire the low-cost employees and then out-compete you.

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So if you protect the employees' profits, you probably cripple the business and in the long run go out of business. Now, is that better? So what I'm suggesting is, that even the top economists could not answer these questions. Is the country in general better off when there's pressure on employees who are not competitive in the world market have to leave and build skills to make them competitive?

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It's a dog-eat-dog, cruel, and I'm not recommending it, I'm just asking, is that better? The answer is, you can't tell. Because would you rather be an unemployed person in a vibrant, growing economy or an employed person in a constipated and dying economy? Which would you prefer? In the short run, you'd prefer to be employed.

Chapter 8: What is the current debate on foreign workers in America?

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versus the people who say that merit is what matters you can always learn new skills and try harder and you'll do fine so one group thinks that you're doomed because of your identity and the other group says nobody's doomed you just have to do the right things and it's obvious it will tell you what to do and everybody who succeeded did the same thing and if you just do what everybody does you'll probably be fine one of those is very optimistic you'll be fine

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The other one is doom. Oh, you were born in this ethnic group. Oh, I guess there's nothing that will ever go right for you. Oh, we'll have to change the law to make you survive. And then, of course, there's the, you know, looking at the world versus looking at yourself all the time. That also is a big factor in how sad or crazy you are. All right. What is racist about wanting a white country?

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Really? What is racist about wanting a white country? Did you actually write that? Here's what you mean to say. You didn't say it, but I'm going to interpret what you meant to say. Racism isn't always bad. See, that's what people don't want to say in public.

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If you're discriminating against somebody for their race or some immutable thing or religion or sexual preference for job offers or romance or friendship or club entry, that's all bad. I don't like any of that. But are there any situations in which race is a factor in a way that we all agree, oh, that makes sense? Yes. Yes. When it comes to large group relationships, Well, let me put it this way.

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This is my favorite example. If you're a young black family and you're trying to decide where to move, what city to move to, would you find it safer to move to a place that has at least a good solid, you know, 20% black population.

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So you'd find lots of people who are like you and, you know, would understand you and, you know, would be more likely to invite you to do something if you think that's how it works. Probably. Now, suppose I said, do you want to pick the city that is known to have the highest KKK population in it? And they're all white. Would you pick that? No, no. Would it be racist?

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Would it be racist to say, I don't want to live in that all-white place because there's a whole bunch of KKK people in there? Well, yes. It'd be a little racist. Would it be wrong? Would it be wrong for a black family not to live where there's 20% KKK? No. That would be completely reasonable. So we conflate individual discrimination against a person, which is probably bad all the time.

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It's not good for the person doing it or the person who gets it done to them, with any kind of group dynamics, which definitely make a difference. If you were a white person and you were looking for a job, would you apply to a company that had no white people in management? I wouldn't because it doesn't look like a good bet. But would that be racist? Yes, of course it would.

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You're making a decision based on race. So the first thing we have to learn to grow up is that racism against individuals is not the same topic as racism to protect yourself from statistical harm. It's just not the same conversation. Anyway, so I think what happened with the MAGA dust-up and Elon Musk and me should come out productive, right?

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