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John Cena shows NO REMORSE in last match with Randy Orton: Backlash Recap

Sun, 11 May 2025

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Despite a chaotic conclusion, John Cena retains the Undisputed WWE Championship against Randy Orton. Jacob Fatu joins the show after retaining his United States Championship in a shocking Fatal 4-Way Match. Plus, Big E gives his thoughts on the clash between Pat McAfee and Gunther. Sam Roberts and Megan Morant bring you the Backlash Recap! ToppsNow: https://www.topps.com/collections/wwe-topps-now?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=youtubedescription&utm_campaign=toppsnow_wwe&utm_content=wwepodcast John Cena St. Louis Collection: https://shop.wwe.com/en/john-cena/o-3488322559+t-6722742934+z-9-3516777785?_s=bm-WWEShop-WWEcom-Cena_Backlash-Podcast-2025 Jacob Fatu “Tribal Wolf” collection & Autographed United States Championship Replica Title: https://shop.wwe.com/en/jacob-fatu/o-4522981460+t-83808010+z-7-2591174255?_s=bm-WWEShop-WWEcom-Backlash_Fatu-Podcast-2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What happened in John Cena's last match against Randy Orton at Backlash?

96.623 - 132.379 Sam Roberts

Wir haben uns einfach nur von der Kamera entfernt, um alle, die Backlash-Recap-Recap-Recap-Recap-Recap-Recap-Recap-Recap-Recap-Recap about the fact that once again it's a low blow, it's a hit with the belt. It's that leading up to it, it was so great to me. It really was kind of... paying off on everything that a John Cena, Randy Orton match could be.

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132.419 - 150.969 Sam Roberts

Because there were people, right, that especially after WrestleMania and how everybody felt about that finish, there were plenty of people that were like, oh, well, if John Cena is ruining wrestling, what if they go back to a trick that Randy Orton once pulled? And John Cena just knocks out the referee and then they match it over in DQ. And I'm like, look.

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151.089 - 157.172 Peter Rosenberg

I was worried. Ja, Peter Rosenberg. Oh, ich habe es nicht bemerkt.

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172.773 - 173.693 Sam Roberts

Was war es?

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173.733 - 174.674 Peter Rosenberg

War es Peter oder war es du?

174.734 - 176.194 Sam Roberts

Ich weiß es nicht. Ein Baller mit einem Haar.

176.214 - 186.698 Peter Rosenberg

Wer kann die Unterschiede erzählen? Wie ich gesagt habe, war ich traurig, weil ich mich erinnere, dass John Cena das Wettbewerb zerstören will.

186.778 - 202.105 Sam Roberts

Ich weiß, ich weiß. Und es ist wie, wie weit er damit gehen wird. Wie ich gesagt habe, es gibt keinen Weg, dass John Cena das Wettbewerb zerstören wird, weil es das Wettbewerb für das ganze Backlash-Show wäre. Und es war nicht das Wettbewerb für das ganze Backlash-Show, aber es war wie... Wir hätten diesen wunderschönen Boot haben können.

202.125 - 211.879 Sam Roberts

Und ich denke, als wir erst herausgefunden haben, dass dies das letzte Jahr von John Cena sein wird, war der John Cena-Randy Orton-Match ein Muss-Happen-Szenario. Ja.

Chapter 2: How did the match between John Cena and Randy Orton unfold?

455.201 - 459.262 Sam Roberts

Ja, ich meine, guck, ich meine, vielleicht schaue ich zu viel dazu, aber das ist so, wie ich es genommen habe.

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459.282 - 475.739 Peter Rosenberg

Es gab einen Moment an seinem Gesicht, in dem er mir sagte, ist das wirklich der Weg, dass ich all diese, für einen Moment, nur einen Moment, ist das wirklich der Weg, dass ich den Kapitel mit Randy Orton beende? Ist das wirklich der Weg, dass ich den Buch auf St. Louis beende? I don't know.

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475.819 - 477.42 Sam Roberts

Right. And I agree with that.

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477.44 - 483.623 Peter Rosenberg

But all of his actions show us that he's not remorseful whatsoever. Wow. But the look on his face Right.

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483.663 - 501.032 Sam Roberts

And sometimes it's those moments. It's easy to convince yourself that something's right, but sometimes the bigger picture hits you. I don't know. And it'll be very interesting to see, you know, because he was also talking about competition. And, you know, he got the mic after his match and needing competition. And it is a question, right?

501.092 - 529.084 Sam Roberts

If he's in a position where he's not won for rematches, it's like, you came back, you won the chamber, you beat Cody Rhodes, you beat Randy Orton. It's almost like, Okay, you've decided to start at the top and you're taking out the best. And if it's not about how you do it, it's just about the W or the L. He's got Ws over the two top guys. Yeah.

529.144 - 552.677 Sam Roberts

That list of who is realistic to be in there with him is getting smaller and smaller. Okay. So the match, I mean, from the beginning, I thought Cena going for the handshake and it was almost like, okay, are we putting character work aside? Are we putting the immediate aside and just going like, yeah, it is Randy and John one more time. They should shake hands. I thought that's what was happening.

552.697 - 578.174 Sam Roberts

But who would have thought in their last match? Randy is the one who trusts John for the handshake. And John's the one who shoves his thumb in Randy Orton's eye. I mean, talk about the roles being reversed. I don't think that that would have even come up in the magic eight ball when you were asking questions. But we start with John Cena's thumb in Randy Orton's eye.

578.274 - 599.593 Sam Roberts

I thought that I don't know that I've ever seen a series of Yabu reverse chin locks. But just watching the two of them go, reverse chin lock, yeah, reverse chin lock, boom, reverse chin lock, yeah. I mean, that was amazing. And we got this great... Back and forth. We got this great Randy Cena match.

Chapter 3: What was the significance of the referees and interference during the match?

907.668 - 920.296 Sam Roberts

I mean, because now once you've done it, You've done it. We're getting into six figures as far as fines go. It's almost like at this point, for the amount of fine Randy Orton would have to have, it's a mortgage.

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920.456 - 922.337 Peter Rosenberg

I think all of St. Louis will just pay for it.

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922.397 - 924.879 Sam Roberts

I think so too. I think so too. I think you go to City Hall.

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924.919 - 926.519 Peter Rosenberg

Pass the hat around, whatever.

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926.58 - 927.4 Sam Roberts

Yeah, I think they'll do it.

927.42 - 927.96 Peter Rosenberg

17,000 strong there.

929.261 - 950.458 Sam Roberts

I mean, if everybody puts in a couple of bucks, I think we'll be okay. Because we got, I mean, everybody, everybody was out there eating it. Nick Aldis, like you said, Hurricane. I saw Daivari out there. I saw Jamie Noble out there. I saw all these guys coming out in their suits, thinking their days of combat were long past them. All of them could get it.

950.518 - 964.496 Sam Roberts

Every single one of them was eating an RKO. I thought it was stone cold in 98. I couldn't believe it. So once everybody's laid out, it's like, okay, are we good now? And by the way, by the way, message sent. How many more officials did you see come out after that?

964.996 - 965.436 Megan Morant

Zero.

Chapter 4: How did John Cena's actions affect his legacy and the fans' perception?

2404.255 - 2405.495 Sam Roberts

You know it. You know it.

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2405.575 - 2408.296 Peter Rosenberg

Absolutely. Jacob, thank you so much.

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2408.336 - 2413.297 Jacob Fatu

I love your jacket too. Thank you. I love your jacket. Y'all have a good one. All right.

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2413.317 - 2414.097 Sam Roberts

Thank you, man. All right.

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2444.858 - 2454.46 Sam Roberts

Ich meine... Ich meine... Der Beste. Fatou. So gut. Hör auf, das war ein großer Moment.

2454.48 - 2474.164 Sam Roberts

Zuerst muss ich sagen, und ich würde sagen, ich würde Drew McIntyre und Damien Priest zu ihrem Gesicht fragen, in einem fadalen Vier-Weg-Szenario, wo es nicht Elimination ist, es war spektakulär, was wir nur einen Minuten ago gesehen haben, das ist noch von Drew McIntyre und Damien Priest in der Audienz, richtig?

2474.184 - 2474.264 Unidentified Speaker (Brief Interjection)

Ja.

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