Raging Moderates with Scott Galloway and Jessica Tarlov
The Future of Anti-Trump Republicans (feat. Charlie Dent)
16 May 2025
Jessica sits down with former Republican Congressman Charlie Dent—a lifelong conservative who broke with his party to back Biden in 2020 and Kamala Harris in 2024. They talk about what pushed him to cross the aisle, why he believes the GOP needs a reckoning, and what gives him hope for the future of American politics. Follow Jessica Tarlov, @JessicaTarlov. Follow Prof G, @profgalloway. Follow Raging Moderates, @RagingModeratesPod. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Raging Moderates. I'm Jessica Tarlow. Today I'm joined by former Republican Congressman Charlie Dent. He is a lifelong conservative who broke with his party to support Joe Biden in 2020 and then Kamala Harris in 2024, making him one of the few Republicans willing to say enough to Donald Trump's grip on the GOP.
These days, he's the executive director of the Aspen Institute's congressional program, where he's focused on fostering real bipartisan dialogue in Congress. He's been vocal about the need for a reckoning within his party and is working to steer the conversation back to responsible governance, trust, and civility. Congressman Dent, welcome to the show.
Jessica, great to be with you. Thank you.
Yeah, no, thank you for joining us. I'm excited to talk to you. It's You're brave soldiers, you never-Trumpers, who actually come over and support the other side. And that's where I want to begin our conversation. So you backed Biden in 2020, Kamala Harris in 2024. What ultimately pushed you to cross the aisle in both elections? Was it Trump? How he redefined the Republican Party?
Can you talk us through your journey?
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