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Liberation Day, Elon Exit Rumors, and Guest Co-Host Jon Lovett

04 Apr 2025

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Kara is joined by Jon Lovett, co-host of Pod Save America and host of Lovett or Leave It. They to discuss Elon Musk’s possible departure from the Trump administration, a Democratic win in Wisconsin, and Cory Booker’s record-breaking speech. Then, Liberation Day liberated us all (and threw the market into chaos), Joe Rogan thinks the Trump administration’s deportations are “horrific,” and President Trump reviews bids for TikTok. Stick around to hear what’s on Jon and Kara’s For You page. Listen to Pod Save America here, and Lovett or Leave It here. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I can't prove, and neither can anyone else, that a computer is alive or not or conscious or not or whatever. I mean, all that stuff is always going to be a matter of faith. But what I can say is that this emphasis on trying to make the models seem like they're freestanding new entities does blind us to some ways we could make them better.

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So how can we make artificial intelligence better? That's this week on The Gray Area. New episodes every Monday.

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Hey, this is Peter Kafka. I'm the host of Channels, a podcast about technology and media and how they're both changing all the time. And this week, I'm trying to figure out how Donald Trump is changing the media in Washington, in the courtroom, and in the boardroom. On to help me figure it all out is Sarah Fisher, the excellent Washington-based media reporter for Axios.

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That's this week on Channels, wherever you get your favorite podcasts.

102.526 - 108.475 Jon Lovett

Yeah, lesbians know what penises look like. We know what they look like. That's partly the way you figure out you're a lesbian.

108.495 - 121.964 Kara Swisher

That's correct. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I am the very nasty and openly lesbian Kara Swisher that's according to my number one fan, Megyn Kelly.

122.664 - 140.089 Kara Swisher

Scott is off today, but in his place, I brought in someone who Megyn Kelly might also take issue with, and obviously will, the host of Crooked Media's Pod Save America and Love It or Leave It, John Lovett. Welcome, John. Hi, good to see you. Good. Did you see Megyn trying to flirt with me online? Did you see that situation? I...

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