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Demis Hassabis on AI, Game Theory, Multimodality, and the Nature of Creativity | Possible
12 Apr 2025
How can AI help us understand and master deeply complex systems—from the game Go, which has 10 to the power 170 possible positions a player could pursue, or proteins, which, on average, can fold in 10 to the power 300 possible ways? This week, Reid and Aria are joined by Demis Hassabis. Demis is a British artificial intelligence researcher, co-founder, and CEO of the AI company, DeepMind. Under his leadership, DeepMind developed Alpha Go, the first AI to defeat a human world champion in Go and later created AlphaFold, which solved the 50-year-old protein folding problem. He's considered one of the most influential figures in AI. Demis, Reid, and Aria discuss game theory, medicine, multimodality, and the nature of innovation and creativity. For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/ Listen to more from Possible here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Cara Swisher, and today we're sharing an episode of Possible, hosted by one of our recent guests, Reid Hoffman. Join Reid and his co-host, Aria Finger, as they sit down with the co-founder and CEO of Google DeepMind, Demis Hassabis, one of the most influential figures in AI.
They'll dive into game theory, medicine, multimodality, the nature of innovation, and how board games and video games shape our understanding of the future of AI. Enjoy the episode and remember, you can find it and subscribe to Possible wherever you listen to podcasts.
AI is going to affect the whole world. It's going to affect every industry. It's going to affect every country. It's going to be the most transformative technology ever, in my opinion. So if that's true, and it's going to be like electricity or fire, then I think it's important that the whole world... participates in its design.
I think it's important that it's not just a hundred square miles of patch of California. I do actually think it's important that we get these other inputs, the broader inputs, not just geographically, but also different subjects, philosophy, social sciences, economists, not just the tech companies, not just the scientists involved in deciding how this gets built and what it gets used for.
Hi, I'm Reid Hoffman.
And I'm Aria Finger.
We want to know how, together, we can use technology like AI to help us shape the best possible future.
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