Pardon My Take
Steve Young, ASU Head Coach Kenny Dillingham, Are The Bengals Back? Jalen Hurts And AJ Brown Used To Be Friends, CFB Playoffs And Guys On Chicks
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Are the Bengals back or did they just play the Cowboys. Mike McCarthy has to stop looking up at the video board (00:00:00-00:11:39). AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts used to be friends but still are so it’s totally fine (00:11:39-00:25:02). We talk CFB playoff, Alabama complaining, Belichick to UNC (00:25:02-00:42:22). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Jalen Brunson wanting Dick (Grady), and Juan Soto being dissed by the Yankees (00:42:22-00:56:37). Hall of Famer Steve Young joins the show to talk about QB’s making it through early struggles, the flight that changed his life, his relationship with Joe Montana, Coaching in the NFL and more (00:56:37-01:54:18). Arizona State Head Football Coach Kenny Dillingham joins the show to talk about getting to the CFP, winning the Big 12, PFT kicking for the Sun Devils, trying to play madden against BYU and tons more (01:54:18-02:26:36). We finish with guys on chicks (02:26:36-02:40:08).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
Chapter 1: Are the Bengals back or was it just a one-time win?
It's too little too late for the Bengals, but even still, watching them and watching their offense, and obviously we had the Leon Lett play by the Cowboys, which was peak Cowboys, and Mike McCarthy giving us his patented stare up at the Jumbotron, being like, How can I reverse what just happened?
I have a suggestion for Mike McCarthy because this happens to him a lot. Something bad happens. You know something bad has just happened in the game as head coach. He forces himself to watch the replay of that bad thing over and over and just sit in that pain. Mike, you've got to stop doing that. You've got to stop subjecting yourself to just trauma repeatedly over and over again.
If something bad happens, yell at somebody, which he did do last night. Mike McCarthy was – I don't think that this is – Is this Mike McCarthy's best coaching job? It might be.
He also assaulted a cameraman. He did assault a cameraman. But you're right. I will forever. I could be on my deathbed and someone would be like, hey, describe Mike McCarthy staring at a play that he wants to will into reversing. And it's like seared in my brain. It's that same dumb look where he looks up and he's like, if I stare at this jumbotron long enough with my fat chins,
I can get everything to change and it never changes. And Dallas was the worst place for him to go because they have a giant screen hanging directly above the field. If it was anywhere else, you're just going to see him staring off into the distance. Yeah.
But yeah, with this, it's something that we see all the time from him. That was a weird way to end the game. And Joe Burrow said it best, like it's about time that one of these broke in our favor. Yeah, he finally got a bounce. And McCarthy talked about what happened after the play. He said that the crowd actually had a lot to do with it. So the punt was blocked, and then I don't know.
How do you pronounce the guy's name? I don't know. Yeah, he just came off injured reserve, and I'm going to butcher it if I try to do it. But he heard the crowd, and the crowd was excited because the punt was blocked. and he saw the ball in front of him, and it was just one of those moments. Grab ball. He called it a vice moment where he was stuck in a vice. Yeah. See ball, try to grab ball.
It didn't work out for him. But, yeah, I guess it's nice to see the Bengals win a game after they've lost so many games where they played good enough to beat almost any other team. Right. If their defense wasn't so bad. Right. In this one, they didn't play exceptionally well, but they managed to figure out a way to win at the end. And, yeah, don't take anything away from Chase Young and Joe
What they're doing is just crazy. It's crazy. It always works.
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Chapter 2: What happened between AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts?
Yeah, say it to me to my face. Don't say it through the media. We actually should just play the video I sent you, Max. Now, I don't know if you guys saw this, but I actually think that this might be a sign that the Eagles are ready to go on a Super Bowl run because they're, what, 11-2? And they've won how many games in a row, Max? Eight games in a row? Nine games in a row?
nine games in a row everything's going well they now have players talking about players old players talking about old players and this was this was after I think this is a crossing broad guys they did a good job with Kyle Pagan he's good he does a good job yeah so shout out him great video this is after the Eagles have won their ninth game in a row. He interviewed people coming out of the link.
And this is, I saw this video and I was like, this could not sum up the Philadelphia Eagle fan base more, and I wouldn't have it any other way. So go ahead, play the video. Carolina Panthers suck! I don't know why we're struggling with Carolina. They suck. They went 2-15 last year. Suck.
I was like, who do we want? Woo!
Jalen Hurts is not the answer. That sounds like Max. We have a number one defense running back. Jalen Hurts is not the answer. I would never say that.
Big time win. Hurts balling out. It's like he didn't do anything.
Brown, man.
I would not let Nick Sirianni come to the game within the first half because then he couldn't call the first set of plays and he can let Kellen Moore just run Saquon Barkley the entire time and we would win the game within the first half. We got to
run the ball i don't know what we're doing why second one run the freaking football what would you do differently if you coached i would give saquon the ball every time and i passed aj brown when he opens that easy nick sirianni the eagles should have won by more i'm disappointed 12 and a half point favorites you gotta smack these dudes they're just jerking around jerking around jerking around stop jerking around and beat the teams you need to beat still super bowl hosts absolutely at the end of the day we're all fucking delusional we go to the ball right
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the CFB playoffs?
Yeah. Yeah, if you win three, then they actually do have to run the table. They have to win all four games. Okay, let's do a little college football, then we'll get to Hot Seat Cool Throne.
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Little College Football, we have our Heisman finalists, Ashton Gentry, Boise State, Cam Ward, Miami, Dylan Gabriel, Oregon, and Travis Hunter, Colorado. Voting has already been done, so we don't even have to say anything. Yeah, so one guy I would have liked to see is Cam Scadabo. Yep. He would have been a nice addition to that group. But besides that, I think those are four worthy guys.
I think Shador might have had a case. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, those are the four that I kind of expected. It was funny. The graphic that they put out there had Cam Ward listed as 42,000 yards. That would be a record? That would be very hard to beat.
I know his defense is bad, but 42,000 is a lot. Now, Cam Ward did have an outstanding season. Yeah. And the defense was a huge liability for him. So some of those wins that were down to the wire where it could have gone either way, that's all because Cam Ward was so good throughout those entire games.
Yes, yes. So we'll find out on Saturday night who wins the Heisman. But yeah, they all are incredible players. college football players, all worthy of the award, all deserving of the award. If it were up to me, I would split it. Yeah. I think it would be a four-way tie if it were up to me.
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Chapter 4: Who is on the Hot Seat and Cool Throne this week?
So I have Oregon. You have Penn State. Max has Texas.
No, I'm taking Arizona State. There we go. I love it. I don't think it works for college football, but if it was hockey or college basketball, they're the hottest team. Make a run. This is the first time there's ever been a playoff where it is like, you know, can a team go on a run? So fuck it. Arizona State. Make a run. I don't think it applies, but I hope it does.
Who cares? I mean, the funniest outcome I still think would be Ohio State. Yeah, for sure. I'm just very interested to see. I feel like we'll know within the first half of that first quarter where it's like, are they just a completely dead team or are they going to go to the national championship? Indiana would be funny, too.
Indiana would be great. Indiana would be awesome. All right, let's do Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and then we'll get to our interviews. We have Steve Young and Arizona State head coach Kenny Dillingham.
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Okay, Hank, hot sequel to Rome. My hot seat, I don't know why I wrote this in my notes. I just wrote fantasy. I don't know what that means. Okay. But the Yankees are also on the hot seat. Oh, I had that.
The reason, one of the reported reasons that he didn't sign with the Yankees is because they didn't offer him a suite for his family and that they once, what was it, they kicked out someone from the VIP lounge, like one of his cooks or assistants or something, a family member. Yeah. So the Yankees lost out on a generational talent just because they were disrespectful.
How are Yankees fans taking this? They're lashing out. It's one of those moments that we all do this as fans, but when you're completely removed from it, it is so funny to watch because I've seen it all. Juan Soto's a terrible defender. Juan Soto's a liability. You're going to have to move him to DH. He's not 26. He's not 26. He's going to be 40 years old making all that money.
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Chapter 5: What insights does Steve Young provide on early QB struggles?
Yeah, it makes it look like Ryan thought that Meghan Markle was like a super attainable, like beneath him. Yeah, they put that back side by side. Russillo also has told this story like a million times, and it's funny that it just got picked up, and they did this. Oh, that's the picture. Yeah, that's the picture right there. That's bullshit.
Yeah. Page six, fuck you. So they wrote this article just to put this picture of Ryan up and be like, this guy thought this chick was attainable. Yeah, then it got community noted. Did you see that? Yeah, that had to be Russillo.
Well, I mean, the Russillo army said, Ryan Russillo has said multiple times that this is a joke and never asked Markle out. Yeah, because he has told the story before. But yeah, that's so funny. He invited her on the podcast.
Yeah. To promote her show. What a good guy. Oh, my God. I've heard that. Hey. Russell is hotter than Meghan Markle, I'll say it. He is. I think she might be attainable for Ryan right now. Yeah. Actually, no, I think Russell is unattainable for Meghan Markle. You know how close he lives to the beach? Yeah. He's got a boat. He's playing guitar now. He might not have a boat anymore. He surfs. Yeah.
He's got scripts. The total package. He's working on them. That man right there, that is a real prince. Yeah. Yeah, he'll treat you right. And when I say treat you right, it means he'll ignore you while he watches Magic Blazers, game 38. He's strong. He's so strong. Fuck you, Page Six. You don't come at our boy like that. It was a dirty move. Yeah. What if it does work out for them?
Could. Could. All right. My hot seat is Odell Beckham because he and his dad are on the hot seat because Roma Dunze and his dad have taken over. I don't know if you guys saw, but probably didn't. A Twitter account called Black Dicka. You've got to make sure to pronounce the end of that.
Yeah, Black Dick posted, Rome Adunze would have 1,100 yards on any other NFC North team. And James Adunze, Rome's dad, said 1,500. So that's going well. Everything's going well. Everything's not depressing. I love those Twitter accounts, like the Black Adam Schefter. Yeah. Black Skip Bayless.
You didn't know we needed a black Ditka. No. Now you do. We got one. But yeah, things are going well. And then we had, that doesn't even look like Ditka. I think that's just a random fan. Who's in a Ditka sweater. Yeah. I do like the idea like, yeah, black people, you should be allowed to dress up as Mike Ditka too. Yeah, you should have a Ditka. A big Ditka.
And then most of the time do. My cool throne is Jalen Brunson because there was a report last night by Josh Hart that in the second half of the Knicks-Raptors game, Jalen Brunson was screaming, I want Dick. I'll take Dick. Talking about Grady Dick. Got it. That also got community.
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Chapter 6: What does Kenny Dillingham say about ASU’s future?
You're insane to not sign a guy that's doing that for you. Right. He's playing as well as you could expect.
But what do you do? What do you do? I mean, you know this situation. What do you do with J.J.
McCarthy? I would be Bill Walsh and say, look, awkward, but let's go. You know who will benefit? The Vikings. Right. We don't know which one of you will benefit more or less, but right now the Vikings will benefit. Yeah. And as long as you don't have a toxic personality, which I know JJ is not, and I know Sam's not like, you know, Joe and I were not toxic personalities.
We weren't going to inflame things in the locker room. It wasn't going to be worse because of the awkwardness. Now that can happen. You don't want that, but I would be unafraid, especially with my history. I'd like, bro, Two of you, let's just, let's go.
Yeah. I mean, iron sharpens iron. You're going to get, you're right. The Vikings will be the beneficiary.
Especially if you get JJ for free for a few years. Right. So, you know, I don't know. I just, when someone's playing great football in the NFL today and you know that, you know, over and over again, As Sam has shown this year, I believe that this is the truth of Sam Darnold. He will grow from here. He's going to be like Josh Allen. He can run. He can move.
He can do all the things that you need from a prototype quarterback today to get out and get those free yards. And I would not let... Sam Darnold go at all. And I don't care who you have at quarterback, other than maybe Patrick or Josh, I would say bring him in. If you can get him at a price that works, make it awkward, man. If they're going to let him go, do not.
And if I was Sam, I am not going back to one of those places that doesn't take care of, that doesn't understand the quarterback position. So I will go compete with, to go to one of those places that does.
Yeah, because Kevin O'Connell is an incredible coach, and then you also have Justin Jefferson. Don't walk away from that.
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Chapter 7: How do personal relationships affect team dynamics?
Yeah.
Without Jordan Travis. You know, I can promise you that because they're both really good players. The kid we have right now, Sam Leavitt, he's a very similar player to Bo Nix. He's got that swagger, the blonde hair, the run around ultra competitive. I mean, it's like I'm reliving the Bo Nix experience with this new guy, Sam Levitt. And it's super exciting.
I mean, now he's a Big 12 champ as a freshman. So I've been blessed to be around some good quarterbacks.
Yeah, so looking at the college football playoff, I don't want you to get ahead of yourself because you obviously, like, I love the spot you guys are in and the fact that no one thinks that, you know, they look at Boise, they look at Arizona State, they're like, oh, that's a cakewalk for Clemson and Texas and all that stuff.
But if you're able to win a game and Oregon wins a game and you go up against Dan Lanning, who knows the other one better? Do you think you know Dan Lanning better than Dan Lanning knows you?
I think we know each other the same. I mean, Dan and I go back to when I was a high school coach and he was a GA at Arizona State. And then we linked back up at Memphis where he was the linebackers coach and I was the quarterbacks coach. And coaches play a game called like who's got the pen last, where we go in and we talk ball. He draws up what he would do. I draw up what I would do.
Then he draws up what he would do. We go back and forth for hours. or some coaches, if you love ball, right? And that was the guy I did that with. And me and him would go back and forth for hours at Memphis and at Oregon, just who's got the pen last? What would you do here? What would you do here? So I think we both know each other fairly well. Obviously, he's got that place rocking and rolling.
I mean, I got my Oregon duck helmet up there. I don't know if you guys can see it. It's barely off the screen. But, you know, I got a lot of respect for him.
Yeah, so you obviously have to start looking ahead a little bit in terms of just who you're going to be playing because you don't know yet. So how much prep work are you doing for each team right now?
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