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On with Kara Swisher

What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster

10 Nov 2025

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Futures designer Nick Foster spent decades of his career helping tech companies create products many of us didn’t even know we wanted. As the head of design at Google X — a.k.a. Alphabet’s “Moonshot Factory,” which is now known simply as “X” — he led teams working on brain-controlled computer interfaces, intelligent robotics, even neighborhood-level nuclear fusion. He also designed products for Apple, Sony, Nokia and Dyson. But in his debut book, “Could, Should, Might, Don’t: How We Think About the Future,” Foster argues for a more measured approach to thinking about big disruptive technology, like A.I. In a live conversation recorded at Smartsheet’s Engage Conference in Seattle, Kara and Nick talk about the pitfalls of the current A.I. hype cycle, why executives need to think more critically about how everyday people are using AI, and how companies can more thoughtfully adopt the technology. They also talk about Foster’s argument that all of us need to take a more “mundane” approach to thinking about AI and the future.  This episode was recorded live at the Smartsheet ENGAGE 2025.  Questions? Comments? Email us at [email protected] or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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