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Why It’s Time to Defund UNRWA | 1.12.25

Sun, 12 Jan 2025

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The executive director of UN Watch, discusses his organization’s extensive investigation into the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees. UN Watch has uncovered years of ties between UNRWA staff and terrorist organizations like Hamas. Get the facts first on Morning Wire.

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3.166 - 24.859 Narrator

Since the Hamas October 7 terror attack against Israel, a highly controversial Palestinian aid group has come under intense scrutiny. The United Nations Relief and Work for Palestinian Refugees, or UNRWA, has been revealed to have terrorist leaders and supporters among its staff. The Biden administration directed over a billion dollars to the group before pausing funds last year.

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25.819 - 42.173 John Bickley

In this episode, we talk with the executive director of UN Watch, which has documented UNRWA's terrorist ties and says it's high time to shut the group down. I'm Daily Wire editor-in-chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Sunday, January 12th, and this is a weekend edition of Morning Wire.

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46.277 - 67.198 John Bickley

Joining us now to discuss the controversy surrounding UNRWA is the executive director of UN Watch, Hillel Neuer. Hillel, thank you so much for coming on. So your organization has been watching very closely the actions of the United Nations, including UNRWA, which has come under a lot of scrutiny for good reason in the last year. First, what prompted your team to investigate UNRWA's radical ties?

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68.049 - 86.001 Hillel Neuer

Well, you know, we've been tracking UNRWA to some degree over the past 10 years. I would say every year, a couple of times a year, we would take a look at who the teachers are, what they're up to on their social media, because UNRWA has operations in Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Gaza and so forth.

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86.801 - 108.421 Hillel Neuer

And I don't have immediate access to those places, but on social media, you can actually see who the teachers are and what they're saying. And we discovered over a period of 10 years, this is going back to 2015, that unread teachers regularly were glorifying terrorist attacks glorifying Adolf Hitler, calling to slaughter Jews, jihad against the West.

109.021 - 132.734 Hillel Neuer

So this was regular stuff that's being put out by UNRWA teachers. So that's the background we were exposing for 10 years. And in the past year, it reached the next level. The October 7th massacre, we learned, included among the people perpetrating the massacre from Gaza were actual UNRWA employees, UNRWA social workers, UNRWA school principals, And that's when we took an even deeper dive.

132.754 - 140.821 Hillel Neuer

And I'd say we've been intensely focused on that agency for the past year. And what we discovered is actually astonishing and despicable.

141.702 - 143.964 John Bickley

Tell us more about that. What did you learn over this last year?

144.585 - 168.326 Hillel Neuer

Well, we learned, just to give a few examples, that one of the heads of UNRWA's education system, one of the leading figures as a gentleman in Lebanon, whose name is Fatri al-Sharif, he was the principal of a major school belonging to UNRWA outside the city of Tyre in Lebanon. He was head of the teachers' union for UNRWA in Lebanon. So, I mean, he was overseeing 2,000 teachers.

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