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Prioritizing DEI Over Education | 1.5.25

Sun, 5 Jan 2025

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A deep dive into the $1 billion spent on DEI initiatives in public schools since 2021, its controversial impact, and what changes may come under the incoming Trump administration. Get the facts first on Morning Wire.Birch Gold: Text WIRE to the number 989898 for your free copy of the Ultimate Guide for Gold in the Trump EraBalance of Nature: Go to Balance of Nature dot com and use promo code WIRE for 35% off your first order as a preferred customer PLUS get a free bottle of Fiber and Spice.

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

3.223 - 23.809 Georgia Howe

At least $1 billion has been spent on DEI in public schools since 2021. In this episode, we speak with a parent activist about how those tax dollars are being spent and what to expect from the incoming Trump administration. I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley, and this is a special edition of Morning Wire.

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Chapter 2: How has $1 billion been spent on DEI in public schools?

27.443 - 49.162 Georgia Howe

Joining us to discuss the massive DEI spending spree in K through 12 public schools is Nikki Neely, president and founder of Parents Defending Education. Nikki, thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. So I wanted to bring you on to talk about this $1 billion of Department of Education spending that's gone on over the past three or four years that's going to DEI specifically.

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49.583 - 50.744 Georgia Howe

What do we know about this grant?

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51.488 - 68.157 Nikki Neely

Yes, this was tons of grants over the four-year period of the Biden administration running the show. You'd think that the Department of Education would fund programs that actually educate children, but frighteningly, this Department of Education under the Biden-Harris administration has actually been funding programs that hurt students.

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Chapter 3: What are the negative impacts of DEI programs?

68.317 - 83.905 Nikki Neely

You know, the fact that there have been all these studies showing that DEI programs actually increase friction between people, start to lead to increased hostility between groups, is mind-boggling that our federal government has literally been lighting money on fire. And so the Department of Education has not been making up learning loss.

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83.925 - 87.547 Nikki Neely

They have actually been making things worse for American children. So it's a real slap in the face.

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88.127 - 95.531 Georgia Howe

Now, put in context this $1 billion, is this a drop in the bucket for what the Department of Education normally spends, or is this a pretty significant line item?

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96.095 - 114.047 Nikki Neely

It's pretty significant. I mean, the past couple of years have been a little bit of an anomaly because we have the post-COVID money that went out. But otherwise, the Department of Education's annual budget is in the $80 billion a year. And so the fact that over the course of four years, they were giving out approximately $250 million a year just to these programs that we identified.

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114.087 - 131.718 Nikki Neely

I mean, let's bear in mind, this is likely only the tip of the iceberg. So it is a non-trivial amount. And let's remember, this is also at a time when schools were closed on Joe Biden's watch. And even before COVID, I mean, honestly, American school children were not doing very well. Our achievement, our proficiency levels were not great to start with.

131.818 - 143.884 Nikki Neely

And every single dollar that goes through that department should be going towards teaching children how to learn to read and write and do math, not going to DEI pet projects that make individuals hate each other.

Chapter 4: What is social emotional learning and why is it controversial?

144.471 - 168.751 Georgia Howe

Now I'm reviewing some of the larger line items in your report. I see we have about half a billion dollars going to diversity, equity and inclusion hiring. And then we have diversity, equity and inclusion programming that's getting 340 million. And then we also have diversity, equity and inclusion based mental health slash social emotional learning. And that got 169 million.

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169.452 - 171.754 Georgia Howe

What is this social emotional learning component?

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172.472 - 189.406 Nikki Neely

Social emotional learning is something that has been around for decades, and it really is, I mean, essentially interpersonal relationships. We want kids to be nice to each other. Of course we want children to be nice to each other. But what we have seen over the past decade, and definitely under the Obama administration and the Biden administration, is a hijacking of this kind of program.

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190.066 - 205.556 Nikki Neely

the Trojan horse through which all of the CRT stuff, the gender things are getting in because it encourages students to view themselves and others through these lens of immutable characteristics. And so it's what's called transformative SEO, which is let's change how children think about the world.

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205.616 - 223.047 Nikki Neely

And so it makes them perceive these racial and gender and ethnic categories and to treat people differently based on those categories. And so this in and of itself is a real problem because again, it's not helping kids to learn because their heads are screwed on, right? It teaching them to see enemies and hatred where it didn't exist to start with.

223.628 - 246.922 Georgia Howe

Now, another line item I'm seeing is from Philadelphia Public Schools, which people who follow education know they are really struggling. And they've received almost $4 million for restorative justice. And that was modeled after Oakland Unified School District, which, by the way, also having a hard time. Can you explain what restorative justice is and why that's a red flag? Yeah.

247.222 - 264.896 Nikki Neely

Absolutely. Restorative justice is kind of the iteration in schools of let's break the school to prison pipeline. And as I know, your listeners know that in and of itself is a falsehood. But the idea of restorative justice is rather than punishing and penalizing students that are misbehaving, they're acting out. Let's bring them together.

265.056 - 281.028 Nikki Neely

Let's come up with some kind of accommodation where a victim and an aggressor can talk through their issues. So this is essentially going to the principal's office and singing Kumbaya. As we have seen violent incidents in school over the past couple years go off the charts, this very clearly is not working.

281.328 - 299.659 Nikki Neely

And to force students to be in a situation where their aggressor, their bully, knows that they have to talk, But that the bully will face no consequences means that bad actors know that they're going to get off the hook. They're not disincentivized from stopping that behavior. And it puts victims, frankly, in a very, very delicate situation.

Chapter 5: What is restorative justice and its implications in schools?

339.091 - 356.282 Nikki Neely

Frighteningly, it is common everywhere. For the past several years, Parents Defending Education has found hundreds of districts at this point that have employed equity consultants that came in in the wake of George Floyd offering equity audits of districts. And surprise, surprise, pretty much 100 percent of the time they'd say, guess what? Your district's racist.

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356.362 - 376.955 Nikki Neely

The solution is hire us in perpetuity and it'll make you a little bit less evil. And so We have seen an explosion in the number of consulting firms that have gone in to do this DEI work. So I think that amount of money is about what we have seen from a lot of other districts. But is it actually helping that student body, helping those children learn? Is it making the district any better off?

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377.336 - 389.624 Nikki Neely

I would argue across the board, 100% of the time, absolutely not. It has just made divisions worse. And that money is better spent in the classrooms, addressing problems for children who need to make up the loss from when schools were closed.

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390.208 - 409.885 Georgia Howe

Have we seen a decline in the number of schools that are hiring these types of equity consultants? I know a couple years ago, there was a lot of outcry and parents going to school board meetings. We haven't heard as much about that over the past, say, six months to a year. Has it persisted and just the zeitgeist has moved on, or are we actually seeing a decrease?

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410.6 - 428.352 Nikki Neely

We are seeing a decrease, and I think it is because of a couple of factors. Right after COVID, districts were awash in money because of the COVID relief money that went out. I mean, there were $160 billion that went to school districts across the country. In many cases, more money than they knew what to do with, and many districts have still not spent it.

Chapter 6: How do DEI initiatives affect student behavior?

428.432 - 439.399 Nikki Neely

And so with them being awash in federal funds, they were hiring these consultants. That money ran out in September 2024. And so some districts have asked for waivers, but for the most part,

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440.64 - 462.834 Nikki Neely

ended and so districts that felt that they could shower cash on pet projects are now being forced to make very tough decisions and also just over the past three or four years unsurprisingly as american parents have become disenchanted with what the public schools have offered they have started homeschooling people have gone to private schools and so there are just fewer butts in seats in general and public schools get money on a per pupil basis and so

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463.374 - 481.365 Nikki Neely

The fact that there is less money, there are less students, means that there is less room for them to waste on programs like this. And so there has been a decline in that. There is certainly going to need to be a lot of cleanup from the Trump administration to make sure that finite funding is not being spent on garbage programs like this going forward.

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481.405 - 485.628 Nikki Neely

But we are starting to see a market decline, and I think that's a good thing for the American people.

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486.449 - 491.452 Georgia Howe

Now, you brought up the incoming Trump administration. What do we know about his new appointee for the Department of Education?

492.31 - 502.12 Nikki Neely

Linda McMahon is an excellent choice, and we're really excited about her. The parents we've spoken to are excited. And I think what's terrific about Linda is that she brings nontraditional experience to this role.

502.14 - 519.274 Nikki Neely

I mean, let's remember, this is the smallest federal agency, but it is still 4,400 employees and a budget of approximately, when we're not doing COVID funding, you know, in the $80 billion range, which is big. It's not... Pentagon big, but it's still monstrous. And she has that business and executive experience.

519.294 - 539.461 Nikki Neely

And I think you need to both rein in employees that are misbehaving, of which there are many in the Department of Education, as well as, as President Trump has alluded to, his interest in winding down the department. As a business leader, she knows how to value assets and to execute something like that. And so I think her experience really dovetails very well. The fact that we have for decades

539.921 - 557.725 Nikki Neely

put policy people at the heads of some of these cabinet agencies and watch them being run into the ground so that it's really time for someone who knows how to manage, who knows how to look at big dollar amounts, make sure the programs are delivering. And I think the most exciting thing about the Trump administration and Linda McMahon is that they actually know who their customers are.

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