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Keeping Men Out of Women’s Sports | 2.8.25

Sat, 8 Feb 2025

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XX-XY founder Jennifer Sey exposes corporate hypocrisy, discusses her viral ad campaign, and explains why protecting women’s sports is a worthwhile battle. Get the facts first on Morning Wire.

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Chapter 1: What executive order did Trump sign regarding sports?

3.137 - 18.064 John Bickley

Donald Trump signed an executive order on Wednesday banning men from competing in women's sports. The move fulfills a major Trump campaign promise and comes as a growing percentage of Americans support the idea of protecting women's and girls' spaces and activities.

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18.959 - 45.911 Georgia Howe

In this episode, we speak with Jennifer Say, the founder of XXXY Athletics, about the impact of Wednesday's monumental executive order and where the movement goes from here. I'm Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's Saturday, February 8th, and this is a weekend edition of Morning Wire. Joining us now is founder of XXXY Athletics, Jennifer Say.

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Chapter 2: Who is Jennifer Sey and what is her role in women's sports advocacy?

45.931 - 48.172 Georgia Howe

Jennifer, first of all, thank you so much for joining us again.

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48.192 - 49.333 Jennifer Sey

Thanks for having me.

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49.878 - 68.773 Georgia Howe

So look, you were at Trump's signing of the executive order. It's called Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports. You were there because your team has really shaken things up on this issue. You've also gotten a lot of attention this week in particular. You released a short film. You've had some commercials that have really gone viral, including one specifically calling out Nike.

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69.194 - 75.479 Georgia Howe

So we wanted to talk to you about all of this. First, what have you seen so far in terms of reaction to Trump's executive order?

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Chapter 3: How did people react to Trump's executive order on women's sports?

76.32 - 99.599 Jennifer Sey

Well, I mean, the reaction has been quite thrilling. I was lucky to be in the room yesterday, got a prime spot right behind him. In fact, he handed me his papers after he was done reciting the list of people to thank. I mean, everyone in the room, we're so thrilled. You know, we've been pushing for this for many, many years for basic common sense, logic, fairness for women and girls.

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100.039 - 115.936 Jennifer Sey

So to have the opportunity to witness the signing of the EO is thrilling and we're all super excited. We also know we still have work to do. I've talked with Riley about this. I've talked with lawyers who are experts on Title IX. He said it in the room yesterday.

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115.956 - 137.436 Jennifer Sey

He said this impacts federally funded institutions and sports that take place within federally funded institutions, so K-12 schools, universities. But twice as many kids participate in what is called the Olympic movement, which is governed by the U.S. Olympic Committee. That doesn't mean you're an Olympic level. I was an elite gymnast. As a young person, I started competing at six.

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137.536 - 148.624 Jennifer Sey

I was not competing at the highest level. But the competitions I was in were governed by the U.S. Olympic Committee and USA Gymnastics. That has not impacted. And they've not made a move yet.

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Chapter 4: What challenges remain in protecting women's sports?

148.644 - 149.245 Georgia Howe

Yeah. Yeah.

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149.685 - 167.676 Jennifer Sey

And then you have the International Olympic Committee, which is clearly outside of the auspices of the executive order. And beyond that, you have one more thing. You have all these private races. You know, I'll cite the Boston Marathon, which has its own board. It's privately run. It's all private company funded. They just qualified a man in the women's division.

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167.696 - 188.643 Jennifer Sey

They can continue to do whatever they want. And so this landscape is incredibly fractured. And my sort of intention in starting this brand 10 months ago, XXXY Athletics, was to change the culture and give people the confidence that it's appropriate to stand up and say, we're not going to take this anymore. And I think when the people do that, all of these other governing bodies and races change.

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188.703 - 204.605 Jennifer Sey

that are going to have to change their tune because the people will demand it. And I just feel like what the EO did was it knocked the door down for us to do that. And Trump has passed us the baton and we need to take it and run through the next door and the next door and the next door because this is not over yet.

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Chapter 5: How are brands like XXXY Athletics influencing public opinion?

205.182 - 222.237 Georgia Howe

You know, our listeners, they might remember our interview with you over the summer after you launched your new brand. And we've been watching it with interest. This is something that aligns with the Daily Wire's focus on the transgender agenda. Our parent company's launch of Jeremy's Razors back in 2022 and then Lady Ballers the next year was really a part of that focus.

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222.918 - 239.652 Georgia Howe

The public messaging part of this is very interesting and is very relevant given that we're coming up on the Super Bowl. Many people watch the Super Bowl more for the ads than the actual games these days. But regarding the messaging potential with brands like yours and Jeremy's Razors, what have you seen in terms of response to your messaging in the public sphere?

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240.232 - 258.887 Jennifer Sey

Well, you know, we just launched a new ad on Sunday. It's four days now we launched it. It's called Real Girls Rock. And it's a celebration of the discipline, dedication and hard work of female athletes. And it highlights the fact that if you are a female athlete that dares to stand up for the integrity of women's sports,

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259.748 - 280.759 Jennifer Sey

On top of all that crazy training and work, you will be faced with threats and bullying and all kinds of horrible harassment. And that ad has just taken off. We launched it before the Super Bowl purposely because, as you point out, people are almost paying more attention to the ads at this time than the matchup. We also launched it just a couple of days ahead of National Girls and Women in Sport.

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Chapter 6: What impact has Jennifer Sey's advertising campaign had?

280.859 - 305.427 Jennifer Sey

day, which was yesterday, the day the EO got signed. So that ad has just taken off. We were lucky enough to have JK Rowling herself share the ad on Monday with her 14 million followers. And it's just gone totally viral. I can't really count the number of views we're up to. It was 10 million in under two days. So it's got to be double that now. The response has been incredible. And

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306.227 - 330.889 Jennifer Sey

As a longtime marketer, I was the chief marketing officer for Levi's for eight years and worked there in marketing for 20 plus. I mean, this is the dream. We've paid zero in media and gotten all of this basically free advertising, just the cost of the ad. And I think as marketers, not to be too industry specific, we want engaged views, not passive views. And we've had...

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331.309 - 352.455 Jennifer Sey

Well over 40,000 people share the ad and endorse it and say that it brought them the tears and they're so glad to see this. I mean, that is the kind of views you want. People who are willing to sit down and share it and endorse it is a real testament to, I think, the strength of the ad. And also the strength of the message and that people are really behind this.

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352.515 - 368.428 Jennifer Sey

And one of the things I've observed with the signing of the EO and everything that's happened is people are leaning in now. They're not going, oh, this is over. They're going, I want to show my support for this movement. I want to show that I'm on the right side of history. So they're not just sharing the ad. They're leaning in and buying the brands.

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369.128 - 389.392 Jennifer Sey

And people are just tired of the, you know, woke capitalism, as I call it, the hypocrisy of these companies virtue signaling when they don't really mean it, when they're touting these far left policies that they can't possibly actually believe in. I mean, they're capitalists at heart, right? They work in big businesses and people are tired of that hypocrisy.

389.432 - 396.893 Jennifer Sey

And I think they're just glad to see brands like Jeremy's Razors and our brand speaking common sense and truth that appeals to the vast majority of Americans.

397.173 - 412.717 Georgia Howe

Yeah, for sure. One of the things that's striking about both of those commercials, who's the real victim is the question that the left has their answer for. And I think a growing majority of people say, no, no, the true victims are the girls. The true victims are the women.

413.297 - 422.96 Georgia Howe

And you guys do a great job of highlighting all the blood, sweat and tears put into this to athletics only to be undermined by a male in their competition.

423.36 - 442.724 Jennifer Sey

Yeah. I mean, what side do you want to be on when all is said and done? We're going to look back at this time in history as sort of just the most psychotic, deluded, insane period of time where we said things like not you and I, but other people. The culture was saying men can be women if they want to. Men can get pregnant. I mean, it's so absurd on its face.

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