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Musk Doubts Trump’s AI Venture & International Travel is So Back
Thu, 23 Jan 2025
Episode 503: Neal and Toby unpack some major quotes said by industry leaders, starting with Elon Musk casting some doubt on Trump’s joint AI infrastructure investment, then JPMorgan's Jamie Dimon has some blunt words about tariffs, and then a ByteDance direction has optimistic words for finding TikTok’s buyer. Meanwhile, Ross Ulbricht, the man behind the controversial Silk Road receives a presidential pardon. Plus, Neal shares his favorite numbers on international travel, India’s popcorn tax, and Kidz Bop still going strong. Lastly, final headlines to close out your day. Let’s ride! 00:00 - Get your MBD Hoodie 2:50 - Elon doubts Trump’s AI venture 6:20 - Dimon says “Get over it” 9:50 - ByteDance director optimistic for TikTok 12:00 - Silk Road creator pardoned 17:45 - Record-breaking travel 21:00 - Popcorn tax?? 23:30 - Kidz Bop turns 50 25:50 - Sprint Finish! Grab your Morning Brew Daily Sweatshirt here: Shop.Morningbrew.Com Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Download the Yahoo! Finance App (on the Play and App store) for real-time alerts on news and insights tailored to your portfolio and stock watchlists. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US-listed, registered securities, options and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA & SIPC. Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. Cryptocurrency trading services are offered by Bakkt Crypto Solutions, LLC (NMLS ID 1890144), which is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the NYSDFS. Cryptocurrency is highly speculative, involves a high degree of risk, and has the potential for loss of the entire amount of an investment. Cryptocurrency holdings are not protected by the FDIC or SIPC. APY as of 1/16/25, offered by Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Rate subject to change. *Terms and Conditions apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What doubts did Elon Musk express about Trump's AI venture?
Now he's started a direct OpenAI competitor called XAI. So now these two guys are going at it in industry and in politics. It's something to watch.
It's something to watch. Elon doesn't have his hands in this particular pie, which is potentially why he is undermining the project in public. Or maybe they really don't have the money secured. We don't necessarily know at this point. But what we are seeing is what happens when you have a lot of billionaires in the henhouse. You're going to have these
clashes, these public hashes too, because Elon Musk owns X, which is where this exchange went down. One person, though, who is trying to remain above it all is Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella. He was asked by CNBC, what do you think about Elon posting this? What do you think about him saying that the funding is not there?
And he told CNBC that I'm good for my $80 billion, which is not a sentence that a lot of people in the world can utter, but Satya Nadella can do that. So It does look like there is some friction. Even the fact that Saeed Nadella doesn't even know what's going on with this other funding stream shows that maybe Stargate isn't off to the best start.
But he did say that $80 billion will be funneled into this project from Microsoft.
And maybe they don't have the cash on hand. I guess I'm defending Stargate now, but they could raise money, right? They could finance it to get the amount of money that they need to build these huge data centers. So definitely a big story we're going for because, you know,
Data centers and AI infrastructure, yes, it's the subject of some catfights between billionaires, but also it's a big deal for the future of technology, future of U.S. national security. So building these data centers is important. Who builds them is obviously a subject of a fight right now. Our next quote is get over it. That's the tough love delivered by J.P.
Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon telling people who are worried about Trump's tariff threats to make like the 2003 Red Sox and cowboy up. In an interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, the head of America's largest bank said if tariffs are, quote, A little inflationary, but it's good for national security. So be it. National security trumps a little more inflation.
It is a rare endorsement of Trump's tariffs than we've been accustomed to from the C-suite, who largely warned that tariffs would, yes, be inflationary and cause major disruptions to trade flows and the economy. Since taking office, Trump has announced plans to slap tariffs on the U.S. 's three largest trading partners, Canada, Mexico and China, on February 1st, a week from now.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the popcorn tax in India?
Chapter 5: How is international travel recovering?
Yeah, I do want to underscore that because it's a big deal. Trump hauled in Masayoshi's son, Sam Altman, Larry Ellison, for this huge announcement that got a lot of press. We talked about it. It was $500 billion pledged. And then Elon Musk, one of his top advisors who helped him gain the presidency, the next day, or actually the same day, it was 11.35 p.m., goes out and calls BS on it.
That is a big deal, and we'll see how this plays out
in the future as you said there is a background here and it seems to be a continuation of the long-standing beef between Elon Musk and Sam Altman remember they co-founded OpenAI together almost a decade ago and then they had this very dramatic falling out when Sam Altman wanted to make the the company turn it from a non-profit to a for-profit Elon Musk didn't like that so
Now he's started a direct OpenAI competitor called XAI. So now these two guys are going at it in industry and in politics. It's something to watch.
It's something to watch. Elon doesn't have his hands in this particular pie, which is potentially why he is undermining the project in public. Or maybe they really don't have the money secured. We don't necessarily know at this point. But what we are seeing is what happens when you have a lot of billionaires in the henhouse. You're going to have these
clashes, these public hashes too, because Elon Musk owns X, which is where this exchange went down. One person, though, who is trying to remain above it all is Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella. He was asked by CNBC, what do you think about Elon posting this? What do you think about him saying that the funding is not there?
And he told CNBC that I'm good for my $80 billion, which is not a sentence that a lot of people in the world can utter, but Satya Nadella can do that. So It does look like there is some friction. Even the fact that Saeed Nadella doesn't even know what's going on with this other funding stream shows that maybe Stargate isn't off to the best start.
But he did say that $80 billion will be funneled into this project from Microsoft.
And maybe they don't have the cash on hand. I guess I'm defending Stargate now, but they could raise money, right? They could finance it to get the amount of money that they need to build these huge data centers. So definitely a big story we're going for because, you know,
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Chapter 7: What are the latest updates on Kidz Bop?
And he told CNBC that I'm good for my $80 billion, which is not a sentence that a lot of people in the world can utter, but Satya Nadella can do that. So It does look like there is some friction. Even the fact that Saeed Nadella doesn't even know what's going on with this other funding stream shows that maybe Stargate isn't off to the best start.
But he did say that $80 billion will be funneled into this project from Microsoft.
Chapter 8: What is the Sprint Finish segment about?
And maybe they don't have the cash on hand. I guess I'm defending Stargate now, but they could raise money, right? They could finance it to get the amount of money that they need to build these huge data centers. So definitely a big story we're going for because, you know,
Data centers and AI infrastructure, yes, it's the subject of some catfights between billionaires, but also it's a big deal for the future of technology, future of U.S. national security. So building these data centers is important. Who builds them is obviously a subject of a fight right now. Our next quote is get over it. That's the tough love delivered by J.P.
Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon telling people who are worried about Trump's tariff threats to make like the 2003 Red Sox and cowboy up. In an interview at the World Economic Forum in Davos, the head of America's largest bank said if tariffs are, quote, A little inflationary, but it's good for national security. So be it. National security trumps a little more inflation.
It is a rare endorsement of Trump's tariffs than we've been accustomed to from the C-suite, who largely warned that tariffs would, yes, be inflationary and cause major disruptions to trade flows and the economy. Since taking office, Trump has announced plans to slap tariffs on the U.S. 's three largest trading partners, Canada, Mexico and China, on February 1st, a week from now.
He's reading 25 percent tariffs on Canada and Mexico and an additional 10 percent on China, countries that account for more than a third of the goods and services imported and exported by the U.S. and support tens of millions of jobs.
But the question remains, until they do go into effect, whether it's a negotiating ploy to extract concessions or a real threat, at least in Diamond's case, he's not losing sleep at night either way.
Right. The fear from a lot of economists have been that these duties, these tariffs, could spark this global trade war, and they could reignite inflation domestically. That's always been what we've been hearing. But they could also protect American interests, which is now the tune that Jamie Dimon is singing. He is saying that national security trumps a little bit of inflation.
He also went on to say that he just views tariffs as a tool. That is it. They can be a weapon depending on how you use them. They can be a tool depending on how you use them. So he was just trying to provide a little bit of perspective on these things because tariffs have become such a boogeyman in a lot of these conversations.
Another quote that came out of Davos as well was the director general of the World Trade Organization said, can we chill when he was talking to CNN reporter in Davos? I think we shouldn't get overexcited about the issue of tariffs. Let's wait and see what actually gets done.
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