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Can Cooling Inflation Withstand Tariffs? & Prada Buys Versace for $1.4B

Fri, 11 Apr 2025

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Episode 559: Neal and Toby look into a promising inflation report but see if the trade wars could spoil everything. Then, while Trump pulls back most reciprocal tariffs from most of the world, he remains staunch against China, which could mean many goods, including Christmas trees and movies, are diminishing. Also, Prada pays a pretty penny for its rival, Versace. Meanwhile, the Stock of the Week is Ring Pop, and the Dog of the Week is Pharma stocks. Let the weekend begin!  00:00 - ‘Twilight’ concert goes on tour 3:30 - US-China trade war escalates 9:30 - Inflation cools…for now 13:00 - Prada strikes deal for Versace 16:45 - Dog of the Week: Pharma stocks 19:00 - Stock of the Week: Ring Pop 21:00 - Sprint Finish! Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Checkout TaxAct for more! Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US-listed, registered securities, options and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA & SIPC. Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. Cryptocurrency trading services are offered by Bakkt Crypto Solutions (NMLS ID 1890144), which is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the NYSDFS. Cryptocurrency is highly speculative and involves a high degree of risk. Cryptocurrency holdings are not protected by the FDIC or SIPC. APY as of 3/18/25,  subject to change. *Terms and Conditions apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the Twilight in Concert tour and why is it exciting for fans?

58.456 - 86.267 Neal Freiman

fans of twilight i have some cool news for you this week a national tour of the first ever twilight in concert was announced where the film will be shown alongside live musicians on stage who will perform the film score synchronized to the original movie if that's not romantic enough there will be 1 000 candles twinkling on the stage the tour will hit 60 cities and ticket sales begin today toby i know you are a huge twilight guy this feels like your eras tour

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86.847 - 102.134 Toby Howell

It is my airs tour, and I'm not too proud to admit that I did put in some time to try and learn Bella's Lullaby on the piano growing up. It ended up being a little above my pay grade, but also this announcement got me thinking about other movies I'd like to go on tour for their soundtracks.

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102.515 - 126.218 Toby Howell

Obviously, anything my boy Hans Zimmer touches is a must, but I'm glad The Goat already basically has a worldwide concert. tour going. Lord of the Rings, solid. Harry Potter, solid. I think it's just any character where the soundtrack feels like a character in the movie. Star Wars is another good one. I'm just going through the basics right now. I don't have any very niche movie soundtracks that

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126.658 - 150.709 Neal Freiman

you know are are worth listening to but do you have any that you would love to see on tour or no but um at tanglewood in western massachusetts near where i grew up john williams who did star wars et jurassic park does every single uh year he does a concert of his movie soundtracks and they play it on the screen not the entire movie but that was just like a core memory from childhood where we would go watch john williams it's just kind of a fantastic experience

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151.232 - 158.676 Toby Howell

Now a word from our sponsor, Tax Act. Neil, do you remember that feeling in school when you'd realize a huge paper was due tomorrow?

158.856 - 177.565 Neal Freiman

Oh, for sure. There would be a full body panic, an IV line filled with coffee, and a small voice in your head telling you to change your name and flee the country. Well, that's exactly how I feel about taxes right now. Then it's time to pull yourself together and log on to Tax Act. It's a cheat sheet for grown-up responsibilities. They walk you through the whole process step by step.

177.725 - 184.511 Toby Howell

But I always second guess myself. Like, did I report that thing from last year? What even is a 1099-K?

Chapter 2: How is the US-China trade war escalating and what are the economic impacts?

184.711 - 202.806 Neal Freiman

That's why they've got expert assist. Real tax pros ready to jump in when you need backup. Think of them as the smart kid in class who is also really cool and handsome. Got it. Just like looking in the mirror. All right. Get over yourself and get over your aversion to taxes by heading to Tax Act and getting it done accurately, confidently, and without the stress.

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203.106 - 206.347 Toby Howell

Head to TaxAct.com and file before April 15th.

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206.447 - 217.752 Neal Freiman

Four days away. Well, it was fun while it lasted. After Wednesday's history-making market rally sparked by Trump's reversal on tariffs, stocks resumed tanking on Thursday. The S&P 500 lost 3.5%. The Nasdaq fell even more, 4.3%.

0

221.633 - 244.769 Neal Freiman

and the dow dropped over 1 000 points some big tech names took a bruising tesla lost seven percent meta lost nearly seven percent and nvidia dropped six percent plus the dollar had its worst day since 2022 and those closely watched long-dated bond yields continued their worrying rise and that's because after the euphoria of the 90-day delay for most countries wore off investors realized

0

245.109 - 262.021 Neal Freiman

We still have a monumental trade war on our hands between the world's two largest economies, the United States and China, who are locked in rapidly escalating economic warfare that will have ginormous ripple effects across the globe. President Trump said yesterday that he had raised tariffs on Chinese goods to 145% since taking office.

264.202 - 284.706 Neal Freiman

which he blamed on China's unfair trade practices and its retaliation for his initial tariffs. China has retaliated in a big way, nearly matching the U.S. with 125% tariffs on American goods bound for its shores. Neither side is backing down. The rhetoric has only escalated and millions of consumers and businesses will likely confront higher prices and lower growth.

285.046 - 304.993 Neal Freiman

Toby, with your permission, I'm going to go ahead and use the U word here, unprecedented. We are watching a nasty divorce unfold between the world's two major powers, whose deep trading relationship has defined the global economy in the 21st century. In this high stakes poker match, both have plenty of cards to play. And if one thing is clear, neither is planning on folding.

305.273 - 309.574 Neal Freiman

You do not have my permission, by the way, so bring back that precedent, please.

309.994 - 328.978 Toby Howell

You are right. This affects pretty much everything. I'm just going to go down the list of all the industries, all the bargaining chips that these two countries have on the table. First up is Hollywood, actually. China is letting fewer U.S. films into their market. Hollywood's share of the Chinese market has dropped from 9% to 5%, so that is one thing.

Chapter 3: What does the latest inflation report reveal and how might tariffs affect it?

617.298 - 631.501 Toby Howell

Based on how stocks traded yesterday, with all three major indexes finishing deep in the red, it's a sign investors are still nervy when it comes to how tariffs might weigh on inflation progress. So Neil, a good report, but maybe a little backwards looking.

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631.761 - 652.279 Neal Freiman

I will never get bored of you getting hype about inflation. But you're right. I mean, if only investors were as hype as you. I think absent of tariffs, if we saw this report come through, stocks would be through the roof. But as I mentioned, they were in the dumps yesterday. And that's because this tariff threat, this... huge trade war between the U.S.

0

652.319 - 671.154 Neal Freiman

and China is just overshadowing everything else. And it does directly tie into this inflation report, too, because we saw cooling inflation for the first time in five years from this report. But it looks like going forward over the next few months, those price hikes from the trade war with China will be filtering through the economy and, you know,

0

671.394 - 686.66 Neal Freiman

You have pretty much every economist saying that this is the calm before the inflation storm. We're going to get higher inflation out of these tariffs and prices will go back up. So this is essentially a baseline from which we can measure how much tariffs do impact inflation.

0

686.88 - 706.892 Toby Howell

But still, that 0.1% drop that I celebrated came from somewhere, and I mentioned gas prices, but a lot of the downward price pressure looked like it came from travel-related things. Gas at a 6.3% month-over-month drop. There was a 5.3% decline in airline fares. hotel prices also fell sharply last month.

706.912 - 732.497 Toby Howell

So the vibes that I were getting from this report is that a lot of people are choosing to do staycations, maybe postponing that travel because of the uncertainty on the horizon. So One final thing that we should add to this whole inflation cocktail is that government data continues to come in very solid. Employers added 228,000 jobs a month. We just saw inflation tick downward. So you are right.

732.577 - 743.146 Toby Howell

If absent of this trade war, everything looks like it's heading in the correct direction. But obviously, there's just that massive question mark, that massive uncertainty that this trade war does.

743.746 - 770.466 Neal Freiman

introduce into everything and i can't believe we've talked for five minutes about inflation without mentioning egg prices so we gotta go there they rose to a fresh record up 5.6 in march from february and that's despite wholesale prices plunging actually they went from eight dollars a dozen in february to three dollars a dozen in march but that just hasn't shown up in the retail aisle yet these supermarkets these grocery stores are just very wary of lowering like changing the sticker out

770.726 - 785.315 Neal Freiman

I'm putting a lower sticker in because there's just been so much whiplash. They've been behind the eight ball for so long. So, yes, wholesale price, wholesale egg prices coming way down. Retail prices, not so much. There was a big merger yesterday among Italian fashion brands.

Chapter 4: Why did Prada decide to buy Versace and what does it mean for the luxury fashion market?

923.49 - 946.435 Neal Freiman

There might be a surge of fashion or luxury nationalism in Italy right now after this deal. So Italy accounts for 50% to 55% of global personal luxury goods production. They have all of these such iconic brands. But what happens to these brands like Versace is they get gobbled up by... US, France, Switzerland, these huge luxury companies, and they don't stay in Italy.

0

946.475 - 962.947 Neal Freiman

So Italy does such a good job of having these like big family owned massive brands, but then they just go elsewhere to be scooped up by LVMH. And now Prada is saying, come back to Milan. We want you back to Milan. I mean, these two companies, Prada and Versace, are literally four kilometers apart in Milan.

0

962.987 - 975.132 Neal Freiman

So maybe this homecoming from Italy will be good for Versace because Capri did not do a good job with it. John Idol absolutely tanked this brand. So I'll be watching, and I won't be wearing.

0

975.152 - 976.632 Toby Howell

You won't be wearing, but you will be watching.

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976.812 - 981.254 Neal Freiman

I will be watching, but I am interested in this Miu Miu brand because that seems to be exploding. It's the new thing.

981.634 - 984.535 Toby Howell

All right, let's take a quick break. Stock of the Week, Dog of the Week is up next.

986.684 - 987.745 Neal Freiman

Got five minutes to spare?

987.945 - 991.609 Toby Howell

Let's face it, if you're listening to a podcast, you have five minutes to spare.

Chapter 5: What stocks are featured as Dog of the Week and Stock of the Week?

Chapter 6: How might ongoing tariffs between the US and China affect consumer goods and jobs?

184.711 - 202.806 Neal Freiman

That's why they've got expert assist. Real tax pros ready to jump in when you need backup. Think of them as the smart kid in class who is also really cool and handsome. Got it. Just like looking in the mirror. All right. Get over yourself and get over your aversion to taxes by heading to Tax Act and getting it done accurately, confidently, and without the stress.

0

203.106 - 206.347 Toby Howell

Head to TaxAct.com and file before April 15th.

0

206.447 - 217.752 Neal Freiman

Four days away. Well, it was fun while it lasted. After Wednesday's history-making market rally sparked by Trump's reversal on tariffs, stocks resumed tanking on Thursday. The S&P 500 lost 3.5%. The Nasdaq fell even more, 4.3%.

0

221.633 - 244.769 Neal Freiman

and the dow dropped over 1 000 points some big tech names took a bruising tesla lost seven percent meta lost nearly seven percent and nvidia dropped six percent plus the dollar had its worst day since 2022 and those closely watched long-dated bond yields continued their worrying rise and that's because after the euphoria of the 90-day delay for most countries wore off investors realized

0

245.109 - 262.021 Neal Freiman

We still have a monumental trade war on our hands between the world's two largest economies, the United States and China, who are locked in rapidly escalating economic warfare that will have ginormous ripple effects across the globe. President Trump said yesterday that he had raised tariffs on Chinese goods to 145% since taking office.

264.202 - 284.706 Neal Freiman

which he blamed on China's unfair trade practices and its retaliation for his initial tariffs. China has retaliated in a big way, nearly matching the U.S. with 125% tariffs on American goods bound for its shores. Neither side is backing down. The rhetoric has only escalated and millions of consumers and businesses will likely confront higher prices and lower growth.

285.046 - 304.993 Neal Freiman

Toby, with your permission, I'm going to go ahead and use the U word here, unprecedented. We are watching a nasty divorce unfold between the world's two major powers, whose deep trading relationship has defined the global economy in the 21st century. In this high stakes poker match, both have plenty of cards to play. And if one thing is clear, neither is planning on folding.

305.273 - 309.574 Neal Freiman

You do not have my permission, by the way, so bring back that precedent, please.

309.994 - 328.978 Toby Howell

You are right. This affects pretty much everything. I'm just going to go down the list of all the industries, all the bargaining chips that these two countries have on the table. First up is Hollywood, actually. China is letting fewer U.S. films into their market. Hollywood's share of the Chinese market has dropped from 9% to 5%, so that is one thing.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of inflation cooling down temporarily?

617.298 - 631.501 Toby Howell

Based on how stocks traded yesterday, with all three major indexes finishing deep in the red, it's a sign investors are still nervy when it comes to how tariffs might weigh on inflation progress. So Neil, a good report, but maybe a little backwards looking.

0

631.761 - 652.279 Neal Freiman

I will never get bored of you getting hype about inflation. But you're right. I mean, if only investors were as hype as you. I think absent of tariffs, if we saw this report come through, stocks would be through the roof. But as I mentioned, they were in the dumps yesterday. And that's because this tariff threat, this... huge trade war between the U.S.

0

652.319 - 671.154 Neal Freiman

and China is just overshadowing everything else. And it does directly tie into this inflation report, too, because we saw cooling inflation for the first time in five years from this report. But it looks like going forward over the next few months, those price hikes from the trade war with China will be filtering through the economy and, you know,

0

671.394 - 686.66 Neal Freiman

You have pretty much every economist saying that this is the calm before the inflation storm. We're going to get higher inflation out of these tariffs and prices will go back up. So this is essentially a baseline from which we can measure how much tariffs do impact inflation.

0

686.88 - 706.892 Toby Howell

But still, that 0.1% drop that I celebrated came from somewhere, and I mentioned gas prices, but a lot of the downward price pressure looked like it came from travel-related things. Gas at a 6.3% month-over-month drop. There was a 5.3% decline in airline fares. hotel prices also fell sharply last month.

706.912 - 732.497 Toby Howell

So the vibes that I were getting from this report is that a lot of people are choosing to do staycations, maybe postponing that travel because of the uncertainty on the horizon. So One final thing that we should add to this whole inflation cocktail is that government data continues to come in very solid. Employers added 228,000 jobs a month. We just saw inflation tick downward. So you are right.

732.577 - 743.146 Toby Howell

If absent of this trade war, everything looks like it's heading in the correct direction. But obviously, there's just that massive question mark, that massive uncertainty that this trade war does.

743.746 - 770.466 Neal Freiman

introduce into everything and i can't believe we've talked for five minutes about inflation without mentioning egg prices so we gotta go there they rose to a fresh record up 5.6 in march from february and that's despite wholesale prices plunging actually they went from eight dollars a dozen in february to three dollars a dozen in march but that just hasn't shown up in the retail aisle yet these supermarkets these grocery stores are just very wary of lowering like changing the sticker out

770.726 - 785.315 Neal Freiman

I'm putting a lower sticker in because there's just been so much whiplash. They've been behind the eight ball for so long. So, yes, wholesale price, wholesale egg prices coming way down. Retail prices, not so much. There was a big merger yesterday among Italian fashion brands.

Chapter 8: How does the Prada-Versace acquisition reflect on the competition between Italian and French luxury brands?

923.49 - 946.435 Neal Freiman

There might be a surge of fashion or luxury nationalism in Italy right now after this deal. So Italy accounts for 50% to 55% of global personal luxury goods production. They have all of these such iconic brands. But what happens to these brands like Versace is they get gobbled up by... US, France, Switzerland, these huge luxury companies, and they don't stay in Italy.

0

946.475 - 962.947 Neal Freiman

So Italy does such a good job of having these like big family owned massive brands, but then they just go elsewhere to be scooped up by LVMH. And now Prada is saying, come back to Milan. We want you back to Milan. I mean, these two companies, Prada and Versace, are literally four kilometers apart in Milan.

0

962.987 - 975.132 Neal Freiman

So maybe this homecoming from Italy will be good for Versace because Capri did not do a good job with it. John Idol absolutely tanked this brand. So I'll be watching, and I won't be wearing.

0

975.152 - 976.632 Toby Howell

You won't be wearing, but you will be watching.

0

976.812 - 981.254 Neal Freiman

I will be watching, but I am interested in this Miu Miu brand because that seems to be exploding. It's the new thing.

981.634 - 984.535 Toby Howell

All right, let's take a quick break. Stock of the Week, Dog of the Week is up next.

986.684 - 987.745 Neal Freiman

Got five minutes to spare?

987.945 - 991.609 Toby Howell

Let's face it, if you're listening to a podcast, you have five minutes to spare.

991.869 - 996.093 Neal Freiman

Then you have time to become a more serious investor with Public.com.

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