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Americans Have Bad Vibes on Economy & UK Demands Apple’s Encrypted Data

Mon, 10 Feb 2025

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Episode 515: Neal and Toby dive into the latest report that shows American consumer sentiment being at a low-point with the news of tariffs. Then, the British government orders Apple to let it spy on users’ encrypted data. Also, the National Institutes of Health cuts billions of dollars for indirect costs and universities say it could jeopardize their research. Meanwhile, the winners of the weekend. Finally, what you need to know for the week ahead.  00:00 - Why is the Super Bowl on a Sunday? 3:00 - Consumer sentiment is down on the economy 7:30 - UK wants Apple’s encrypted data 11:30 - NIH cuts billions of dollars 18:00 - The best Super Bowl commercials 24:30 - Week Ahead Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Check out https://wise.com/business for more! Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Why is the Super Bowl on a Sunday?

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Chapter 2: Why are Americans pessimistic about the economy?

27.964 - 38.85 Neal Freiman

Good morning, Brew Daily Show. I'm Neil Freiman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, consumer sentiment is way down. Inflation expectations are way up. Are Americans souring on the economy?

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39.21 - 48.716 Toby Howell

Then the Super Bowl was kind of a blowout, but the ads, they were also honestly kind of boring too. It's Monday, February 10th. Let's ride.

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53.575 - 72.692 Neal Freiman

Well, that was a spanking. The Eagles coasted by the Chiefs 40-22 to win the Super Bowl, avenge their loss to Kansas City two years ago, and prevent the Chiefs from winning a historic third straight championship. Just utter domination by the birds. But many of you won't be around to discuss the game and the commercials at the office today.

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73.432 - 92.928 Neal Freiman

22.6 million people across the country plan to miss work the day after the Super Bowl, according to the Harris poll, which is up 40% from a year ago. Now, whether these numbers are accurate or not, who knows? But here's my question to the NFL. Instead of making everyone have a brutal Monday, why not just move the Super Bowl to a Saturday?

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93.288 - 108.273 Toby Howell

Well, Neil, Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, has answered that very question. It comes down to ratings. According to Goodell, the reason we haven't done it in the past is just from an audience standpoint. The audiences on Sunday night are so much larger.

108.333 - 120.857 Toby Howell

So you got to feed the ratings machine, even if it means giving 22 million Americans a case of a Super Bowl flu, which, by the way, Neil, should you be partying in Philadelphia right now or something? My heart is on Broad Street.

121.138 - 123.359 Neal Freiman

My body is on 6th Avenue.

123.96 - 139.432 Toby Howell

I like that. Married to the game. We will discuss the big game in more depth later in the show. So stick around for that. Now, a word from our sponsor, Wise Business. Neil, during the pandemic, I went through a baking phase. But one time, I accidentally substituted salt for sugar.

139.552 - 143.916 Neal Freiman

That's not a baking phase, Toby. That's a, oh, shoot, called poison control phase.

Chapter 3: Why does the UK want access to Apple's encrypted data?

385.376 - 404.827 Toby Howell

This jobs report was also the one where you do some data adjustments that happens at the start of every year. And what we saw in 2024 was that there were just over 2 million jobs added over 2024. That's around 166,000 jobs per month, which is a pretty solid rate, actually. That is pretty much dead on with what we saw before the pandemic in 2019.

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406.608 - 425.083 Toby Howell

As for January's jobs report, though, there has been a little bit of a concerning trend. It was solid overall, but you have started to see that some of the churn that the job market needs to operate in a healthy manner has been slowing down. We've talked about this on the show before. People are not quitting their jobs. The quit rate is down a lot.

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425.123 - 449.72 Toby Howell

So there isn't a lot of movement in the job market, even though you are seeing pretty solid growth still. And there were some external factors as well. A lot of sometimes weather and illness can affect January jobs report, as well as some of the natural disasters we saw, like the wildfires in California. So it has been a good start to the year. We're still seeing solid jobs numbers.

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451.821 - 471.406 Toby Howell

Rates are still elevated. The jobs market isn't, you know, popping off anymore. That two factors could also contribute to some of these feelings of uncertainty that we've mentioned so far in this story. Security officials from the UK are knocking at Apple's backdoor, asking the privacy-focused company to allow them to snoop around encrypted content that users upload to their iCloud.

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471.906 - 492.882 Toby Howell

According to the Washington Post, the British government issued an order, which is called a technical capability notice, last month. It's a criminal offense to even reveal that the government has made a demand, which has put Apple in a rotten spot. Does it acquiesce and break its privacy promises to its users, or does it cease to offer the encryption technology so as not to run afoul of the order?

493.362 - 510.329 Toby Howell

The UK justified serving the notice to Apple by saying that end-to-end encryption makes it easier for terrorists and child abusers to hide illegal activities from law enforcement. But tech companies have long resisted being used as tools for governments to spy on their users. It's also a slippery slope.

510.369 - 524.058 Toby Howell

If Apple is forced to give in to the UK's demands, then other nations like the US and China will likely make similar ass. So Neil, big prologue. privacy showdown brewing here with much larger implications for how tech companies and governments interact.

524.138 - 548.777 Neal Freiman

Totally. There is no known precedent in major democracies for a government to go knocking on a tech company's back door like this and saying, hey, we know you have encrypted data on users. Let us see them. And the big implication here is it's not just for English people or British people. It's for the Apple user who uses this feature, and we should say it's an opt-in feature.

549.138 - 558.265 Neal Freiman

You're not on this by default. If you want to encrypt your iCloud, you can, but you do have to go through some steps that Apple can take you through.

Chapter 4: How will NIH funding cuts affect medical research?

995.152 - 1007.601 Toby Howell

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1025.984 - 1031.891 Toby Howell

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1032.011 - 1042.104 Neal Freiman

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1042.304 - 1058.222 Toby Howell

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1089.099 - 1108.678 Toby Howell

Obviously, the Super Bowl was yesterday, and while the game was about as lopsided as a shopping cart with one wheel, we're going to run through some of the other winners that weren't wearing Kelly Green. Up first, old celebrities. Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal recreated their deli scene from When Harry Met Sally, except this time, Sally's enthusiasm was for Hellman's mayonnaise.

1108.858 - 1128.774 Toby Howell

Harrison Ford narrated an ad for Jeep. Martha Stewart danced around for Skechers. Morgan Freeman's dulcet tones graced a homes.com ad. Everywhere you looked, there were celebrities pushing products, and most of those celebs were on the older side. Neil, it felt like this year's commercials were characterized by pretty safe, nostalgic choices.

Chapter 5: What were the best Super Bowl commercials?

1396.57 - 1411.762 Toby Howell

I think it speaks to my earlier point about ads playing it rather safe this year that two ad agencies came up with the same concept for two different brands. Do you think this was a coincidence? I think it is a coincidence because you can go back to Super Bowl's past and similar things have happened in 2021.

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1412.162 - 1433.57 Toby Howell

Two advertisers, Indeed and Guaranteed Rate, actually used the same exact clip of stock footage showing this man carrying a kid on his back. So it just happens like these ad agencies, you know, some of the similar people work at both. So I can see how it happens, which I think, again, just props to Doritos because Doritos Let the fans make an ad. Let's do something different.

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1433.77 - 1443.982 Toby Howell

You will never end up doing the same ad as another ad agency if you let fans do it. So I thought it was very funny. People were scratching their heads saying, are they related? I think it truly was just a coincidence.

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1444.002 - 1465.295 Neal Freiman

All right, so overall, the commercials, at the top of the show, you said they were a down year, but... To be honest, I feel like every year we say this is a little disappointing. So every year we say that the commercials did not live up to the hype. And I think we just have to acknowledge that they're never going to and that 90 percent of them are going to be commercials.

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1465.315 - 1479.12 Neal Freiman

And there's going to be so many celebrities doing things that aren't particularly interesting. There will be a few standouts. There'll be a few duds that everyone is talking about. So I think I think that's just we have to arrange our priors to be this is what the this is what the commercials are. They're commercials.

1480.201 - 1501.159 Neal Freiman

It's Monday once again, and as per tradition, here are the big events you should know about this week. A massive AI conference begins today in Paris, where world leaders and top tech bosses will meet to hammer out the thorny geopolitics of this rapidly advancing technology. The Artificial Intelligence Action Summit is basically the Met Gala for tech, and the invite list proves it.

1501.499 - 1521.626 Neal Freiman

OpenAI's Sam Altman, Google's Sundar Pichai, Microsoft President Brad Smith, and world leaders including Justin Trudeau of Canada, Narendra Modi of India, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, and US Vice President JD Vance. You can bet discussions will revolve around DeepSeek, China's surprisingly capable AI model, and the Trump administration's more lax approach to regulating AI.

1521.886 - 1538.023 Toby Howell

Yeah, things will definitely be what do we do with deep seek? What do we do about deep seek? Also, what's the most effective way to work with the current administration? He wants to, you know, strip some of those regulations away without, you know, sacrificing safety. And I do think that last point will be a big talking point.

1538.243 - 1549.052 Toby Howell

How do you deal with the risks associated with AI without stunting progress? Apparently, Sam Altman is going to give a speech related to that topic as well. So safety, deep seek, what to do with Trump.

Chapter 6: What should you know for the week ahead?

1699.484 - 1718.59 Neal Freiman

Let's roll the credits. Emily Milliron is our executive producer. Raymond Liu is our producer. Olivia Graham is our associate producer. Uchenua Ogu is our technical director. Scoop Stardaris is on audio. Just got an email from hair and makeup. Gonna be in at like 10 today. All right, can't blame you. Devin Emery is our chief content officer and our show is a production of Morning Brew.

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1718.95 - 1720.891 Toby Howell

Great show today, Neil. Let's run it back tomorrow.

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