
Bart Sibrel joins Matt Beall limitless to dissect one of themost debated conspiracies of all time. From alleged NASA cover-ups to claims of a government-led hoax, Sibrel presents his case and the evidence he believes proves the Apollo missions never happened as history tells us.Follow Matt Beall Limitless: https://x.com/MattbLimitlesshttps://www.tiktok.com/@mblimitlesshttps://www.instagram.com/mattbealllimitless/https://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Beall-Limitless/61556879741320/Listen on: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@mattbealllimitlessRumble: https://rumble.com/c/c-6727221 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/MattBeallLimitless Check out Bart Sibrel:https://www.sibrel.com/https://www.youtube.com/@BartSibrel1https://www.subscribestar.com/bartsibrelEpisode Timeline:00:00 Introductions01:43 The Evidence57:23 Murderous Coverup1:38:17 What do Russia & China know?1:50:55 Are Aliens Real?2:01:56 Abducted by CIA?2:21:59 Moon Rocks2:33:08 Who Produced the Hoax?2:37:49 Apollo 132:41:18 Confronting Astronauts2:58:44 NDE’s3:05:19 Bart’s Special Powers3:12:47 ClosingThe views and opinions expressed on this podcast are not necessarily the views of the host or of any business related to the host.
Chapter 1: What evidence suggests the moon landing was faked?
They don't answer me. For some strange reason, the CIA... is all over the launch pad today. The very next day, he's dead from faulty equipment. And so when I make my way back to Nashville, I know I've got this exotic truth serum drug in me. The faking of the moon landing is so much more profound historically than if they actually had gone. They faked it six times.
They took the American people for suckers six times. That's how arrogant these people are. He made it clear to me that I am correct and good luck trying to prove it.
Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?
That's not an eight-year-old's question. That's my question. I want to know, but I think I know. Because we didn't go there, and that's the way it happened.
And so the moon landing really is the poster child of conspiracy theories, right? Oh, they faked the moon landing. The director of YouTube went before Congress and her number one example as to why they need to do censorship is for people saying the moon landing is fake.
And then when it dawns on you after extensive research and a millionaire backing you who built rockets for NASA, who knows the moon missions are fake. And then when we'll get into it, I found concrete proof that they were indeed falsified. I just, you know, wept quietly. It's so sad when you realize they actually did fake the moon landing. And more and more people are waking up to that.
I saw before we began the clip of Joe Rogan And I got a lot of positive feedback about that. I did Coast to Coast, I think, four times. And after I did it the very first time, I got 2,000 emails in one day. And our film, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, which you can see for free at sabrell.com, it actually outsold Gladiator after doing the Coast to Coast interview.
But of those 2,000 emails that I got, now this is about 25 years ago, 9 out of 10 of them were, how dare you say such a thing, multiple death threats, multiple emails with curse words in them. And then about... Five years ago, there was like a paradigm shift where nine out of ten emails were supportive. And that really happened after the Joe Rogan podcast.
People said, you know, I assumed they were real, always thought they were real. But after watching us discuss it for just three hours, they're totally convinced that they were fake. And then, of course, my book reaffirms that. The book is more of the backstory behind the production of the film, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of a moon landing cover-up?
They took the American people for suckers six times. That's how arrogant these people are. And they're at large. When someone robs a bank and gets away with it, they're just going to keep robbing it and keep taking more and more and more. That's why it's so important for the truth about this to come out. There are many people in Washington, at least now, who claim to be anti-corruption.
But their number one tool, the most powerful tool to bring down the corruption, is to show the public that the federal government faked the moon landing. It will shock people. It will anger people. That's the best way to have a new government.
Otherwise, they are complicit with the lie, and this lie is being taught to schoolchildren and college students, and the evil forces are winning because we're still propagating their work.
Well, that's a hell of an introduction.
I didn't mean it to be. No, it is. It's a great summary of the situation. I find myself getting more passionate about this because it's like, let's just say there's a bucket of water there because there's a leak in the drip drip. And the next day there's one there and then there. And I come visit you three years from now and the buckets are still here. It's like, when are we going to fix the roof?
When is the truth going to come out? And as you know, they murdered people to cover this up. That is so wrong.
Yeah, I want to talk about that.
When is this going to come out? You know, that's why I keep getting more passionate about it as time goes by.
Right, right. Yeah, I want to talk about that. I want to talk about the people that were that were murdered to cover this thing up. But first, can I ask you about the Joe Rogan experience? What was that like? I mean, the interaction between you and Joe at times, it seems like he was he was all in, you know, moon landing fake.
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Chapter 3: Why haven't we returned to the moon since 1972?
Chapter 4: What do Russia and China know about the moon missions?
They don't answer me. For some strange reason, the CIA... is all over the launch pad today. The very next day, he's dead from faulty equipment. And so when I make my way back to Nashville, I know I've got this exotic truth serum drug in me. The faking of the moon landing is so much more profound historically than if they actually had gone. They faked it six times.
They took the American people for suckers six times. That's how arrogant these people are. He made it clear to me that I am correct and good luck trying to prove it.
Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?
That's not an eight-year-old's question. That's my question. I want to know, but I think I know. Because we didn't go there, and that's the way it happened.
And so the moon landing really is the poster child of conspiracy theories, right? Oh, they faked the moon landing. The director of YouTube went before Congress and her number one example as to why they need to do censorship is for people saying the moon landing is fake.
And then when it dawns on you after extensive research and a millionaire backing you who built rockets for NASA, who knows the moon missions are fake. And then when we'll get into it, I found concrete proof that they were indeed falsified. I just, you know, wept quietly. It's so sad when you realize they actually did fake the moon landing. And more and more people are waking up to that.
I saw before we began the clip of Joe Rogan And I got a lot of positive feedback about that. I did Coast to Coast, I think, four times. And after I did it the very first time, I got 2,000 emails in one day. And our film, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, which you can see for free at sabrell.com, it actually outsold Gladiator after doing the Coast to Coast interview.
But of those 2,000 emails that I got, now this is about 25 years ago, 9 out of 10 of them were, how dare you say such a thing, multiple death threats, multiple emails with curse words in them. And then about... Five years ago, there was like a paradigm shift where nine out of ten emails were supportive. And that really happened after the Joe Rogan podcast.
People said, you know, I assumed they were real, always thought they were real. But after watching us discuss it for just three hours, they're totally convinced that they were fake. And then, of course, my book reaffirms that. The book is more of the backstory behind the production of the film, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon.
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Chapter 5: How could the moon landing have been staged?
He has on Robert Malone, who was one of the inventors of this medicine people were taking for an illness they didn't even have, who said, you know, not to take it. And I don't think he took the pharmaceutical company's side for three hours, although I didn't see the interview. So while...
I'm there, and I know what his real opinion is, and he keeps acting like he thinks the moon missions are real. I'm like, what is going on? And so about halfway through, we take a bathroom break. I like yours better. It's a lunch break. And I'm like, what are you doing? You know they didn't go to the moon. He says, no, trust me, trust me. I'm doing this for a reason.
There's a new generation of people who don't know about this, and I'm doing it this way for their benefit. And I'm like, I had no clue of understanding what he was talking about. I disagreed completely. And then I get a review that you can read on the homepage of Sobrell.com of someone who saw the Rogan interview. And he said, look, I used to think it was real. After watching it, I know it's not.
I read your book. It reinforced everything. And then I'm thinking, oh, I guess Joe was right. I guess he's older and wiser than I gave him credit for. And apparently the way that he did it worked. because we talked out all the reasons why people still defend the moon landing, but now, of course, they know otherwise.
He invited me back for a debate, and not something I would really be interested in. However, he took really good care of me and my wife, who traveled with me, and for him, I said, okay... Personally, I don't want to debate if the sky is blue. It's blue. So it's like a waste of time to debate it for three hours for someone who thinks it's green.
Plus, the person who thinks it's green is not open-minded. So it's a double waste of time. But if he really wants to, you know, I agreed. And then I would be debating really a victim of the deception. Do you understand? It's like debating a victim of someone who was molested rather than the molester.
I'm like, you know, bring up NASA's administrator, bring up one of these lying astronauts, them I'll debate. But I'm debating a victim. You know, I used to be their victim. I used to think it was real. So maybe I'll go back because he said he wanted to have me back on. Maybe I'll do my first debate. I've never debated it. I present the evidence on my website.
I present it in my book and take it or leave it.
Who was the person that he wanted you to debate? Do you know?
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Chapter 6: Who has been murdered to cover up the moon landing truth?
The idea that the NSA spied on the president of the United States' private phone call is as absurd as the moon landings being fake. And then it came out they did spy. So it's not absurd at all. So what about the other one there, Tucker? Right? You haven't had me on your show either because he's afraid to go that far. That's why people need to know the truth all the more because it is that bad.
Do you see that? and they're not knowing this great historical truth. It's like having a cure for cancer that's being withheld. If mankind doesn't know, that the most powerful nation has become the most corrupt. And it's not just about America. It's about us as a species. We can't tell the truth to one another. It dawned on me, Matt, that the faking of the moon landing is juvenile.
Do you realize that? The people who ran the country couldn't admit that they bit off more than they could chew. And so they falsified it. They murdered people to cover it up. Our leaders are immature and they're robbing us of our money, which is being used to deceive us and pay the salaries of CIA agents who are killing our neighbors. They have to know it's become that bad.
And if not, we'll never get any better.
So when you say bit off more than they can chew, you're talking about Kennedy announcing in the early 60s, we're going to the moon this decade, we're going to do it. And then he kind of painted himself into a corner, I guess.
That's exactly what he said. And private tapes that came out, he said he wished he had never said it. He used an analogy of an old Irish folk story about these two brothers coming to a landowner's big wall. And, of course, they're challenging each other. You know, can you climb the wall? I can climb the wall.
So the older brother takes the hat of the younger brother and throws it over the wall and says, now you have to go. And he said, Kennedy said he did the same thing. He made this boast in front of the world, now we're in trouble. And you know, NASA has never kept a schedule, not a single time in their entire history, except the most complicated mission of all time, they were ahead of schedule.
Pretty remarkable, huh? Pretty remarkable, yeah. Phil Platt was the guy who Rogan wanted you to... No, it was somebody else.
Oh, really? Okay. I've talked to Phil Platt privately. Okay. He finally admitted to me he receives funding from NASA. So he's one of those people. I'm not even sure an astronaut confessing that he would recant the glorious moon landings. He has tunnel vision. You see, there are intelligent people like him, but they are only intelligent in this narrow field.
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Chapter 7: What does AI say about the authenticity of moon landing photos?
So maybe he's older and wiser than I gave him credit for.
He's a sharp guy. Have you done many other large podcasts? I saw you on Candace Owens maybe. Yeah, and I did Patrick McDavid. David, as well.
And then Les Friedman asked me to do a show, but we can't seem to coordinate our schedules of being in the country at the same time.
Okay, okay. You doing any others on this trip that you've got right now?
I did Luke Radowski yesterday. He's an up-and-coming podcaster. Actually, he's been around a while. Not too many people know about him. He has, I think, slightly less than a million subscribers on YouTube. But I like him. I don't agree with everything he says. But he seems genuine, open-minded, and looking for the truth. He'll criticize Trump. You know, Trump's a fool for doing it that way.
And next week he says, oh, Trump did this right. And you can trust a person like that.
Yep, yep, no doubt. Well, you want to dig right into the evidence, man, and into kind of the story? I suppose. Yeah, we might as well do it, right?
Yeah. Let me just say, you know, I wish the moon landings were real. The world would be a better place. Our country would be a better place. And if it weren't for people's pride... and it being a positive lie, they would see the truth plainly. Just like most people who watch the Joe Rogan show, they reverse their opinion because they're open-minded.
And so the way that I look at it, Matt, there are four incontrovertible proofs that we didn't go to the moon. Each one by itself would prove it in a court of law. And so if your producer wants to bring up the picture where we have basically two images side by side, you can prove that the moon landings are fake with one photograph. Now, I'm a filmmaker.
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Chapter 8: Why is the moon landing conspiracy still relevant today?
Look at two people standing, two trees, two telephone poles, which this is. And you can see the shadows always run parallel. It's mathematically and scientifically impossible for shadows in sunlight to ever intersect. Impossible.
On the right is a picture they claim was from the last, quote, mission to the moon, where an astronaut's shadow is at 12 o'clock and a rock five feet away is intersecting at 9 o'clock at 90 degrees. That is an electrical light that is very, very close to those objects.
That proves in a court of law that that picture on the right was taken with a very close electrical light, which means they're on Earth, which means they did not go to the moon. That's it. We just proved the moon landing was fake in one photograph.
Do we have a, I think there's a zoomed out, more zoomed out image of this photograph on the right, Ryan. This feels a little zoomed, there's more rocks on the one that I saw, but you're right. So the rock on the left is casting a shadow that is going directly, to the left.
Well, here's another example of intersecting shadows. There's a shadow of an antenna, which is going at about 10 o'clock, and the astronaut's shadow a few feet away is going at 12 o'clock. This is another example of intersecting shadows, which means it's an electrical light that's really close. Because the sun is 93 million miles away, a million times bigger than the Earth in volume.
It would always cast shadows parallel with one another, no matter what time of day, no matter whether the landscape is angular or not.
But what if, I mean, if the, that would be the case on a flat surface, right? But if this is a curved surface?
No, it doesn't matter. If you go back to the original picture, you'll see one of the telephone pole shadows. Actually, you can't see it. It's a little off camera, but it goes up the side of the house. So both shadows go up the side of the house and remain parallel up the side of the house. So it doesn't matter.
Even if the landscape changes by 90 degrees with the house, that shadow, which you can't see, though, goes straight up. And if the shadow from the telephone pole were next to it or if the house was bigger, it would also go straight up and remain parallel. It doesn't make them intersect, regardless of the landscape. They remain parallel.
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