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Let's Talk Legacy

Turning Loss to Legacy, with Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Wed, 17 Jul 2024

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Amanda Bauer-Frisch, serial entrepreneur and the CEO of the Enduring Legacy Company, talks about the grief and loss that shaped her first product, the importance of teaching kids about financial literacy, why the word "legacy" shows up in almost all of her businesses, and how she's helping to uplift not only her customers, but her employees as well.

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2.657 - 28.689 Gary Michaels

Legacy means a lot of things to a lot of people. To some, it's lasting integrity. It's building and maintaining a history of greatness. It's making an impact on people and community. For others, it's dependable security and assurance in an uncertain time. To us, it's all of that and more. It's a mindset, a brother and sisterhood of hardworking people dedicated to doing the right

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28.789 - 43.361 Gary Michaels

thing for you and those you care about of growing today for a better tomorrow that's what legacy means at southwestern legacy insurance group what does it mean to you let's talk legacy

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46.311 - 70.294 Gary Michaels

Welcome to Let's Talk Legacy. I'm your host, Gary Michaels. Today, we have Amanda Bauer Frischon, who is a serial entrepreneur and the CEO of the Enduring Legacy Company, which obviously caught our eyes. We're all about leaving a legacy for people. She's dedicated to leaving a lasting impact through heartfelt, purpose-driven businesses that resonate with families worldwide. So welcome to the show.

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70.774 - 71.655 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Thank you very much.

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72.175 - 88.808 Gary Michaels

So your path from human resources to full-time parenting and then to becoming a serial entrepreneur is quite a journey and one which was shaped in many ways by grief. Yes. That caught my eye and I know our team was wondering about that. Can you share that story with us?

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89.568 - 112.123 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Absolutely. So in 2017, I was a full time human resources manager for a large grocery store chain. And I loved my job, loved the company I worked for. And my husband and I had a one year old son. And I was in April of that year, I was four months pregnant with our second and we were eating dinner one night and my husband had a weird pain in his throat.

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112.623 - 135.266 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

He knew that his family had a history of heart health issues. So out of an abundance of caution, we decided to go to the emergency room just to get checked out and make sure he was okay. He was not okay. He was having an aortic dissection, which is where his aortic valve was basically was tearing in half. And he passed away about two hours after we got to the emergency room.

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135.426 - 135.667 Gary Michaels

Oh, wow.

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136.287 - 159.902 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

So really, in the blink of an eye, you know, my life was totally upside down. And I was a pregnant widow with a one-year-old at home and needed to figure out how to put my life back together. From there, I fast forward a couple of years. I was a stay-at-home mom by choice. I had recently remarried, and I started making money. wood banks in my garage.

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160.302 - 175.756 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

I made these wood piggy banks that have three compartments that say give, save, spend. My late husband was very passionate about financial literacy. He was a sheriff's deputy and really had that passion to serve the community. But his other calling was financial literacy.

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175.836 - 198.173 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

So I kind of had this feeling inside, like if I'm going to teach my kids anything from their dad, I have to teach them this basic thing. So I made these wood banks and I engraved the kids' names on top. And my new husband encouraged me to list them on Etsy. And when I did that, they just took off and I couldn't make enough of them. In the beginning, did all the woodworking myself in my garage.

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198.693 - 217.566 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

And I will say I am not a woodworker. I just needed something to do, a craft, a project to do. And also at the time when I started this, it was the beginning of the pandemic. And I just needed something to do. Now we have a wood toy manufacturer. who makes the wood banks for us, and we engrave the kids' names on top.

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217.846 - 226.613 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

And then we also just published a book called Jeremiah Learns to Earn that teaches kids a really cute story about learning to give, save, and spend.

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226.953 - 237.761 Gary Michaels

Wow, that's awesome. Do you have thoughts about allowances? Do you have thoughts about when you start to give and at what age is the right time for a child to start to learn about money?

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238.345 - 257.098 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Yeah, that's a great question. One we get a lot. I will say, I don't know that there is a right or a wrong answer. It really, each family is unique. And I will say in our family, there are some chores, if you will, that are just expected of our kids because they're a member of the family, brush their teeth and take a shower and that kind of thing.

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257.298 - 277.746 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

And those are just expectations that we have of them. And then occasionally, they have an opportunity to earn extra money from If they help with a job that we've asked of them. And my kids are still young. So the older two are definitely starting to earn some money. But we're really like on the cusp of their natural interest. Some children are interested in money a lot earlier.

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277.866 - 282.508 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

So I would say if your kid is expressing interest, that's a great time to start.

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283.168 - 295.279 Gary Michaels

Right. That's pretty cool. Now, you say that along with the way you learned it isn't about winning or failing. It's about simply participating. And that being absent is the worst thing you can do. So talk a little bit about that.

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295.779 - 311.848 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Yeah, I was able to participate in a TEDx event. And the title of my talk was In Defense of Participation Trophies, which I know is a hot button issue for a lot of people. And it's quick to kind of dismiss them as junk or just encouraging this everyone's a winner culture.

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312.368 - 339.066 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

But I know from personal experience, when I was really in the depths of grief after my husband died, it was very easy to want to just lay in bed all day and not participate in basic things in life or the community or my family. And I think if we kind of reframe our thoughts around what it means to participate, you credits his success to missing over 9,000 baskets during his career.

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339.086 - 355.299 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

And if we take that mindset of I'm capable of doing anything if I put my mind to it and I keep trying until I get it right versus, oh, I didn't make it on the first time I tried, so I best just give up. I think that type of growth mindset could be beneficial to a lot of people.

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355.799 - 360.243 Gary Michaels

Absolutely. Yeah, but it all goes to a person's self-worth and self-esteem.

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360.894 - 381.963 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Absolutely. There's a couple famous sayings. One that comes to my mind is you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with. And then whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right. And if you surround yourself with people who believe in you and see your effort, you will start to make your goals a reality.

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381.983 - 384.404 Gary Michaels

And it's not a perfect science, but it's pretty darn right.

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384.664 - 392.689 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Absolutely. Or if you're in one of those funks, I think take an audit of who you're spending your time with. Maybe it's time to change those five people.

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393.249 - 400.539 Gary Michaels

Absolutely. So what is the Enduring Legacy Bank? How does that work? How does the concept work?

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400.936 - 425.361 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Yeah, so one thing that we realized really early on when we started selling our banks is this sense of passing on good financial literacy skills that I have for my late husband is common to many families. And so we really want to recognize that this is a common trait that a lot of families want to preserve. And it's not just about my family's legacy or my late husband.

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425.501 - 446.557 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

It's about helping each individual family preserve their legacy. And then also along the way, there was another small woodworking business called Navy Paddles. And we took over operation of that brand. We make plaques and awards that become retirement gifts or military recognition awards. And we felt like the name Enduring Legacy Co.

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447.097 - 458.481 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

really encompassed everything we were trying to do in the different spaces, from honoring people's financial legacies or maybe their work and professional legacies. It's kind of how the name evolved.

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459.061 - 476.23 Gary Michaels

Sweet. What kind of feedback have you gotten from parents about how their child's changed or learned from having these little small legacies and these products of these banks? Has it been more of like a game for them? Have you heard any feedback about it actually as they're learning some of the concepts?

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476.997 - 496.47 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Yes. One thing that we've heard quite frequently over and over is because our banks are very popular to gift around the holidays. And we will get notes saying, you know, my kids opened all of their presents and the only one that they played with was the bank. And it's really not meant to be a toy, but I'm just glad that the kids are engaging with it.

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496.771 - 514.125 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Really, the best feedback that we've gotten is that it creates an opportunity for families to start the conversation. Because a lot of parents just don't even know, like, how do I even touch this topic with a 10-foot pole? And we really believe it's not something that your kids are going to learn overnight.

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514.145 - 528.297 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

This is a lifetime of, you know, these small habits that you're trying to build into their world and these small learning moments over time that are going to help preserve your legacy. So that's really the coolest feedback.

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528.797 - 538.882 Gary Michaels

What is your overriding vision? You did this to honor your late husband, but there's something deeper core in you. What's your message? What's your purpose?

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539.683 - 560.167 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

That is a great question. Because in the beginning, my purpose, I just felt like was I need to make my late husband proud. And that was really the driving force for a while. That's still there. But I think the bigger driving forces, I want to leave the world a little bit better for my kids and not just my children, but you know, their generation.

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561.209 - 582.385 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

I don't know what that looks like or how I'm meant to do that. But I think showing up every day with a good attitude and positive intent is half of the battle. So I and I think I do that by being a good business owner and a good employer to people and showing, you know, being an example of how to treat people with respect. And that's what fuels me now.

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582.986 - 590.772 Gary Michaels

That's good. Now, all of your businesses, if I hear you right, you got the bank, you got the recognition program, you got your speaking, right? Yes.

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591.661 - 614.593 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

We have one more brand that follows under our umbrella, and that is a quilt shop and sewing machine dealership called Stitches in Time. Maybe at first glance, it's like, how does that fit in with your stuff? But the clients that are really passionate about quilting and sewing, the same passion that drives me to want to leave a legacy for my kids drives them when they're making a quilt.

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615.173 - 627.839 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

They're thinking about the same things every time they make a blanket or for the person that they're going to give it to. And it's really just helping people unlock that drive that's already in them to help preserve their own legacy.

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628.159 - 637.743 Gary Michaels

Do you have any desires to expand all these businesses to even a bigger cause? Or are you kind of in this very focus to better these brands?

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638.408 - 659.455 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Absolutely. I mean, I've been a small business owner for four years now. The Navy Paddles brand had been in business for 10 years when we took it over and the quilt shop had been in business for 24 years. So we, you know, have big shoes to fill with the brands that we took over and, you know, the small legacies brand, the banks that I was trying to build myself, but I absolutely see them growing.

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659.775 - 663.616 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

I just don't know where yet. In a couple of years, the path will materialize.

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664.045 - 668.607 Gary Michaels

Yeah, every day it probably gets a little clearer and then all of a sudden it's going to hit, right?

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668.827 - 669.027 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Yes.

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669.468 - 681.654 Gary Michaels

So legacy is what this show is all about. It's so important, I think, for so many people in our world. It drives them to what they do every day. Yet very few people are ever asked, what's your legacy?

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682.094 - 682.254 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Mm-hmm.

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682.754 - 695.545 Gary Michaels

And the word legacy, though, shows up in all areas of your life, it seems like. What does that word mean specifically to you? And why is it important to further legacy on in life?

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696.431 - 722.457 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

You know, for my family, my kids, I have three boys now. My oldest two biologically were my late husbands. And they've been adopted now by my new husband. But I definitely feel like I have a big role to play for them in helping to introduce them to their dad that they never knew and teach them what he was all about and what he stood for as a man and a human.

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723.277 - 737.023 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

So the word legacy definitely has a stronger meaning to me personally, I think at this stage in my life, just because I've been so focused on helping to preserve my late husband's memory for these two little boys.

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737.423 - 756.693 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

But like I said, once I started sharing that with people that that was my in my heart and what I really wanted to do, I realized that so many other people have a very similar story, maybe just for different reasons. that desire to pass on the positive aspects of your loved ones is something that a lot of people share.

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756.713 - 759.455 Gary Michaels

How many people are involved in your businesses?

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759.875 - 774.945 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

We have 10 employees. There's three that are involved in all three. And then I have an integrator for each brand and then some like We have woodworkers that only work, obviously, on our woodworking projects. We have a couple quilting instructors who only work at the quilt shop.

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775.386 - 788.42 Gary Michaels

Are you doing anything currently, either consciously or subconsciously, to further the legacy with your 10 employees and further that we are a legacy company? We are a company that's making a lasting difference.

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788.993 - 810.762 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Yes. One thing that's been really a passion project for mine is in my company to be a great employer to everyone that works for us, but specifically for moms. Because if you know a working mom, like it's very difficult to have any type of balance. Just being able to manage it all is really hard. And we have several moms on our team.

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810.962 - 829.052 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

And I feel like I and our company can help leave a legacy for their family by paying them well first. by being a great employer, by being flexible when that inevitable kid stuff comes up. So I feel like in that small way, we're already doing that.

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829.552 - 853.206 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

And everyone on our team sees the passion behind either the awards that we're sending out or seeing the passion behind finding or helping one of our clients finish their quilt. They all feel that too. And I think that is something I try to do often is call out that special feeling that that you get when you help a client finish their quilt or when you send out a really cool award.

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853.707 - 867.757 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Those kind of moments don't happen at a Joanne Fabrics, but they do happen in small business and they do happen when you have a passionate group of people. So we try to call those out when they're happening, those special moments as they're happening.

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868.416 - 881.546 Gary Michaels

As our listeners hop off the podcast today, if there was one message that you'd like them to leave with that they would just go, hmm, I want to do that to better my life. What would that message be that you hope you've conveyed to them today?

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882.352 - 906.545 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

I think if there's one thing that people can take away from my message is that participation really can be so powerful and having positive effort in the world. I think people are very quick to give up on their own hopes and dreams because they're afraid of participation. And if you can take that first step towards whatever is the legacy that you want to pass on,

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907.225 - 912.47 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Take that first step outside of your comfort zone and see what happens. I think that could be really powerful.

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913.07 - 915.232 Gary Michaels

Awesome. How would someone get in touch with you?

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915.693 - 927.704 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Absolutely. They could check out our website, EnduringLegacyCo.com, or check out the TEDx talk on YouTube called In Defense of Participation Trophies. Those are two places they could find us.

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928.264 - 930.406 Gary Michaels

Well, thank you so much, Amanda.

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930.726 - 931.307 Amanda Bauer-Frisch

Thanks so much.

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933.47 - 958.798 Gary Michaels

If you've enjoyed today's podcast and want to learn more, visit us at southwesternlegacy.com. Shoot us an email via our easy contact form to find out how you can become an agent or how we can meet your needs for final expense coverage. You can find this and other episodes at letstalklegacypod.com on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere else you listen to podcasts.

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959.338 - 965.949 Gary Michaels

Let's Talk Legacy is a presentation of the Southwestern Legacy Insurance Group, a member of Southwestern Family of Companies.

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