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Wonder Woman in Trouble, Batman Arkham Lives?! - Kinda Funny Games Daily 02.07.25

Fri, 07 Feb 2025

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Chapter 1: What news is there about the Wonder Woman game?

0.369 - 17.991 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Today in the nerdy news you need to know about, the Wonder Woman game might be in trouble. Gee, who said that last year? Rocksteady is reportedly returning to Batman and Rockstar doubles down on 2025 for GTA 6. We'll have all this and more because this is Kind of Funny Games Daily.

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25.53 - 51.095 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

what's up everybody welcome to kind of funny games daily for friday february 7th 2025 i'm one of your hosts greg miller alongside forbes 30 under 30 aka new york game awards nominated aka magic the gathering poppy blessing at eoyay junior

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51.175 - 62.425 Greg Miller

You know what sucks about the intro is that we're almost there of, if it was a DC kind of like mashup there, it would have fit perfectly for the theme of the show. Because it is a DC news show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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62.445 - 72.514 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Well, just hold on. Hope. Come on. Just hope a little bit longer. You know what I mean? Hope for what? Superman to be a good movie. Relaunch an entire universe. James Gunn doesn't get fired in three films and we're all off. You know what I mean?

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72.914 - 91.203 Greg Miller

Where do you stand? Because I'm sure you've talked about this a billion times, but I just haven't heard it. Where do you stand on Batman as a character? Should he be, I guess, like owned by Matt Reeves? Or should James Gunn take him back and be like, you're part of our universe? Or should it be both? Should we have two Batmans?

91.223 - 120.958 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

it should be both it's stupid that we're that it's even I mean no like comics are comics are comics and I think especially the comic fan now is so educated I'm sorry the movie fan is so educated in the way comic fans are educated that I think it's so simple to be like no here's the Batman 2 it's its own universe it's its own thing and then here is what James Gunn has pitched right of like Brave and the Bold it's Batman and his son doing this it's like yeah fuck let's go let's set it up in a different way and have it all set now I think Robert Pattinson's Batman is very very cool Matt Reeves' Gotham is very very cool the Penguin oh yeah

121.178 - 121.799 Greg Miller

What a show.

122.239 - 140.519 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

But I love the idea of not having those have to be linked together that way, especially when it looks like James Gunn's universe is so fantastic. And I don't mean fantastic in quality. I mean fantastical in properties of like, yep, alien dog is there. That's totally normal. Everyone goes, yes, this dog makes sense. It's a totally normal thing. I can't wait to see what's up with the dog.

140.899 - 158.734 Greg Miller

Because I've heard about crypto all of my life. The streets have always been talking about crypto. They've been talking about this crypto dog. And I'm like, what kind of currency is it? But I've heard about crypto forever. But I don't think I've actually watched anything that involved crypto. You haven't watched the cartoon back in the day? Which one was it?

Chapter 2: What is the status of Rocksteady's new Batman game?

382.488 - 397.341 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Is this better for you? Live chat, we want to be fine. Cyborg TV says it's fine. It's not quiet. All right, it was just one guy being a complainer. Anyways, back to it then. Let's talk about housekeeping. Love is in the air, and so is pasta.

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397.701 - 413.745 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

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414.205 - 429.158 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

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429.946 - 451.213 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

You can be over there to link and get to both our stuff, the t-shirt, the shirts. I'm wearing the very nice sweatshirt here. Roger wearing the hat over there. There's a t-shirt as well. But most importantly, yeah, Tony, Mill Valley Pasta, who has seen me at many farmers market, call Andy, made a portillo-shaped dachshund pasta. So you can go and order that, ship it anywhere right now. Portoloni.

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451.473 - 452.054 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Portoloni.

452.094 - 452.634 Greg Miller

Portoloni.

453.254 - 458.037 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

I think it's funny. We call it Portolini on the document. They call it Portoloni on the site. I don't know where we are anymore.

458.257 - 462.899 Greg Miller

But it's a Portillo pasta. Because technically this isn't Portolini, right? So I feel like Portolini was kind of misleading.

462.92 - 468.503 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

You're just making it up. Click through. Go check it out on his page. What's he calling it? He's calling it Portoloni. Yeah, Joey just changed it.

Chapter 3: What are the details on GTA 6's release date?

760.403 - 779.963 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

It got cold up in the Tahoe. That's fair. I almost said up in the hoe. That wouldn't have been it. What he always used to say was, when it rains in the bay, it snows in the hoe. And I started calling it the hoe. Well, you can't say the hoe. You can't be saying that. I digress, everybody. Straighten your ties. Number one, the Wonder Woman game has reportedly been rebooted and is years away.

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780.043 - 797.4 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

We go to Jordan Miller at VGC, who's talking about Jason Schreier's Bloomberg report. Warner Brothers' Wonder Woman game is quote-unquote years away from release, according to a new report. Wonder Woman, which is being developed by Monolith Productions, will use the Nemesis system from their acclaimed pair of Lord of the Rings titles released during The Last Generation.

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797.981 - 817.892 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

The game was announced in 2021 at the Game Awards. Since then, nothing has been shown from the project. Now, according to Bloomberg, the project was rebooted last year and switched directors. Quote, one of the company's biggest bets in development, a video game based on Wonder Woman, has struggled to coalesce, according to people familiar with the project.

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818.373 - 838.249 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Early last year, it was rebooted and switched directors. The game has already cost more than $100 million, said the people who asked not to be identified discussing non-public information, and is still years away from release if it ever makes it to market, end quote. Elsewhere in the report, it's claimed that both Harry Potter Quidditch Champions and Multiversus flopped. Last week, Warner Bros.

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838.289 - 859.599 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

announced the development of Multiversus was coming to an end. Warner Bros. Game Division has faced several issues in recent years with high-profile failures despite banking on Warner Bros.' biggest franchises. Quote, According to interviews with two dozen current and former Warner Bros. employees, a lack of strong, cohesive vision during Haddad's reign, a tumultuous period in which Warner Bros.

859.759 - 883.053 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

struggled through multiple reorganizations, led to years of ineffectual trend chasing and wasted development time, reads the report. Along the way, once-revered studios under the Warner Bros. umbrella have taken reputational hits, lost key staff members, and burned through hundreds of millions of dollars." It's also claimed that Rocksteady Studios is working on a single-player Batman game.

884.059 - 901.608 Greg Miller

which we'll get to in a second, because that is story number two. Oh! But before we get to story number two, Greg, as I was putting together today's show, I pulled this article from VGC, of course, referencing Jason Schreier's report at Bloomberg. But, so I can have the context around it, I went and I read the Bloomberg article, which is very long, which is why I defaulted to VGC.

901.688 - 904.41 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Schreier killing it over there, of course. Round of applause for Jason Schreier, friend of the show.

905.331 - 919.961 Greg Miller

As I read through Schreier's report, every few lines, I'll read something where I'm like, oh, that's interesting. Let me put that in a bullet point in the doc. And then I kept going, and I have a bunch of bullet points here. So I'm going to read through some of these bullet points. And this is even outside of just the Wonder Woman thing. This is just talking about Warner Brothers as a whole.

Chapter 4: What does the new Nintendo patent reveal?

1400.806 - 1401.466 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

I've ranted.

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1401.987 - 1419.965 Greg Miller

I think I'm going to say the same thing you're about to say, which is the Marvel games route is so smart and so, I think, appropriate for what Marvel has as IP. You have all these heroes. So many of them are recognizable and there's so much you can do with it. DC is the same way. You have all these heroes and, like, you have heroes that can be depicted in so many different ways, right? Like,

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1420.245 - 1436.178 Greg Miller

you can have multiple Wonder Woman games. You can have multiple Superman or multiple Batman games in different genres, right? Like, those are the characters that you have and that you work with. And so to your Talos principle pitch, right, which isn't exactly Talos principle, but I'm sure there is a smaller developer that you can look at and go, hey, would you like to make a Flash thing?

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1436.518 - 1454.727 Greg Miller

And, like, they can... At the very least, get something out the door that's going to make more money than something that's canceled. And I think that's the problem here is you look through these different projects that these studios are working on, right? And you would get, all right, the Wonder Woman game was rebooted. Okay, Suicide Squad was a huge flop. Okay, this game didn't come out.

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1454.787 - 1473.162 Greg Miller

Okay, you worked on this thing for three years. That was an original project from Monolith. Oh, guess what? WB didn't want it to come out because it wasn't based off an already existing IP that they viewed as getting them more money. So when you have these failures and you have these canceled projects, you are working with little to no money coming in.

1473.503 - 1479.128 Greg Miller

As opposed to at least those successes that you can get on a small scale that can hopefully build up into something bigger for you.

1479.688 - 1487.056 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Let me bring this in because this is a way better example because I'm saying Talos principle for the time loop only, not necessarily the gameplay, which is more puzzling and talky, right?

1487.076 - 1487.236 Greg Miller

Yeah.

1487.516 - 1501.585 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Calvin Perez says, Returnal, but it's Flash. Happy Friday. Exactly. Exactly, Calvin. A way better reference of what I'm trying to drive to, right? Like, that's the way to go. And to your point, again... I think this speaks to the bullet point you have here.

Chapter 5: What is the latest on Football Manager 25?

1997.065 - 2007.492 Greg Miller

hey, what if you did something with Joker or Flash? Because they're more recognizable. Everything has to be IP, which is unfortunate. And to the hero-to-villain dynamic, of course, we've got to talk about Batman in a second.

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2007.532 - 2026.986 Greg Miller

But when we talk about outside of DC, we're talking about Game of Thrones, we're talking about Lord of the Rings, we're talking about Mortal Kombat, which is like NetherRealm, a studio that is a game studio, right? But Mortal Kombat has to go into those things where it is as big as any other IP. It fits in the, I guess, IP race of... Like we want something that's going to make money.

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2027.006 - 2029.627 Greg Miller

We want something that's going to do big, right? Which is awesome. And like, it's great.

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2029.647 - 2044.194 Greg Miller

Cause another realm that is their bread and butter, it's Ed Boon working on this thing and he has worked on it for decades, but even Mortal Kombat nowadays, like I feel like it's lost some of the sauce and I'll attribute that to like some of the monetization aspects of it as well, where you're looking at like the DLC and you're looking at like,

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2044.654 - 2068.551 Greg Miller

I don't know some of the ways that it feels like it's been lost to time a little bit like other fighting game franchises have kind of caught up and surpassed it once again in terms of like the gameplay feel of it to where that I also feel like you got to figure out as well and I the thing that I worry about even more so than even just the stuff I said is are you going to allow the failings of the other like the IP race the trend chasing all that stuff to now fuck with the Mortal Kombat side of things of

2069.372 - 2079.636 Greg Miller

You've got to sell that company, right? Like, if you get out of the video game business, does that mean NetherRealm shuts down? Does that mean the IP... Oh, somebody would buy NetherRealm. The IP just becomes, like, you know... IPs and more interesting things.

2079.676 - 2097.864 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

That was another rumor, right, from the last two years, I'll say. Maybe even just the last year. But it was that WB Interactive Entertainment was trying to sell all these studios, right? But keep the IP. And so it was like... Well, license back the IP. Exactly. So it's like, if I'm whoever, Xbox...

2098.644 - 2122.951 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

and i buy monolith cool if you want them to keep making the one roaming game you got to license the ip from dc right so it's like this really bad that's like why would you buy nether realm if you're not gonna buy mortal exactly exactly yeah or even like rocks obviously rocksteady can make something original but if i'm buying rocksteady kind of want that too like i don't know if i would again you love to bring it up all the time now we're into the ship of theseus how many people at rocksteady we've seen all the founders leave right like how many how many people at rocksteady are the people who made batman yeah

2124.11 - 2142.098 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Speaking of Batman. Speaking of Batman, story number two, after I remind you about the Kind of Funny membership. Of course, remember, everybody, we couldn't do this without your support. Pick up a Kind of Funny membership either on YouTube.com slash Kind of Funny Games, Patreon.com slash Kind of Funny, Apple or Spotify, where $10 gets you all of our shows ad-free.

Chapter 6: What are the upcoming features in Kinda Funny content?

2557.808 - 2560.689 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

They should just do that game. They should go do absolute Batman.

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2560.709 - 2561.329 Greg Miller

It's absolute Batman.

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2561.389 - 2579.041 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

It's the new... It's a comic run right now that people really like where Bruce isn't a millionaire. He isn't all this stuff. He's just a fucking... brick shithouse beating people he's got this gigantic bat on his chest like it's it's awesome so it's like yeah do that like there's so much you could do with batman and still make it bruce but get away from arkham and do all this

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2580.834 - 2605.07 Greg Miller

yeah yeah man i i want what you're talking about i think a beyond game would be sick yeah i i then get into like the um the wb executive ip brain of like oh you've got to put arkham in the title though like i feel like arkham is so important to like the video game like lineage and for letting people know what it is of hey guess what it's back the batman you love it's back well you could do batman beyond arkham

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2605.45 - 2611.157 Greg Miller

That's true. Batman Arkham colon beyond or something like that. Batman. Batman beyond Arkham. Yeah. You know what I mean?

2611.177 - 2612.759 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Like we're, we are Arkham, but we're beyond.

2613.059 - 2613.56 Greg Miller

Yeah.

2613.58 - 2619.467 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

I like that actually. It was some Batman beyond return to Arkham. Yeah. There's stuff to put in there. Yeah. But again, I think people just see Batman on the cover. They're gonna be stoked.

2619.928 - 2621.149 Greg Miller

Yeah. I think so too. You know what I mean?

Chapter 7: What are the challenges facing Warner Bros. Games?

3080.626 - 3091.334 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Speaking to IGN ahead of the release of its financial report, Take-Two CEO Strauss Zelnick said that while, quote, there's always a risk of slippage, end quote, the company, quote, feels really good about fall 2025.

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3091.474 - 3097.525 Greg Miller

I love when people lie. I love when people refuse to tell the truth.

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3098.165 - 3117.062 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

For the sake of my fantasy critic, I hope you're lying, Strauss. I hope you're lying. I'll believe it when I see it, and I'm not going to see it. I'll see this game in 2026. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that still feels right. That still feels real. Yeah, I won't make it, but it's nice to see them out here holding the line saying, I'd love to be shocked. I would love to be shocked. I would love to have it.

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3117.082 - 3129.212 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

I mean, that'd be sick. Yeah, of course. Yeah. We shall see, everybody. Number four on the ROPA report, Nintendo patents show the Switch 2 Joy-Con may indeed work like a mouse, and so might a new controller. This is Jay Peters of The Verge.

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3130.053 - 3147.748 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Newly published Nintendo patents show that the company has been exploring a version of its Joy-Con controllers that can work like a computer mouse, a feature Nintendo has hinted will be coming to the Switch 2. In its Switch 2 teaser video last month, Nintendo showed two Joy-Con controllers sliding along the ground, much like you'd move a mouse.

3148.348 - 3168.554 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

But the mouse-like functionality may not just be limited to Joy-Cons. The patents also show that Nintendo has explored adding mouse-like functionality to a split controller with a larger, more traditionally sized grip. Images in one patent show a Joy-Con being held horizontally with the SR and SL buttons facing downward and a person's thumbs on the control sticks.

3169.114 - 3186.263 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

This seems to indicate that the optical sensor would be facing downward so that you could hold and move the controller on a surface like a mouse. Another image shows the Joy-Con being used upright, while the right Joy-Con is used with the mouse mode, imagine Wazda, but with your Switch controllers.

3186.944 - 3205.302 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

In a machine translation of the patent, which is in Japanese, the term, quote, mouse operation sensor appears 28 times, which suggests that there will be technology inside the controllers that makes them work like a mouse. Mouse-like Joy-Cons have been rumored for a while, but I've been wondering if or how the functionality would translate to a more standard controller.

3205.903 - 3222.135 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Based on the patent drawings, Nintendo has designed a split controller with a more traditional console grip, and it appears that at least the right side of the controller could be placed on a surface and operated like a mouse. The second patent also shows what looks to be a controller dock of some kind where the Joy-Con can be laid down and presumably charged.

Chapter 8: How can DC improve their video game strategy?

3725.114 - 3741.996 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

Fantastic. Yeah. Ladies, gentlemen, and NBs, that's another episode of Kind of Funny Games Daily in the bank. But guess what? We're far from done. Of course, we're an 11-person small business all about live talk shows. So right after this, you're getting the Kind of Funny Gamescast where I interview Ted Price. And of course, he talks about Resistance 4.

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3742.377 - 3761.368 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

After that, Mike and Blessing are... After that, we're doing Game Showdown too. It's also pre-recorded because we have people out of the office today. And then after that, Mike and Bless are in fact doing the one and only Magic the Gathering deck building. It'll be a fun little stream to hang out for. Remember, of course, you can now go get new Portillo merch on kindoffunny.com and PortilloPasta.

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3761.868 - 3767.915 Roger (Caller from Kansas City)

No matter what you're doing, though, I hope you have a great weekend. Thank you for your support. And until next time, no! It's been our pleasure to serve you.

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