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Khloé in Wonder Land

The One and Only, Kris Jenner

Thu, 13 Mar 2025

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Legendary Kris Jenner joins Khloé, and nothing is off-limits! From raising six kids to Khloé’s rebellious streak and how their bond has evolved, this mother-daughter duo is keeping it unfiltered.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What are Kris Jenner's thoughts on motherhood?

00:12 - 00:20 Kris Jenner

I think when I was about 16 years old, all I wanted to do was have six kids. That was my destiny. And I used to pray about it and I claimed it.

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00:20 - 00:22 Khloé

I don't think anyone questions your determination.

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00:22 - 00:26 Kris Jenner

I think everyone knows. I was laser focused.

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00:27 - 00:50 Khloé

I have this anxiety and this buildup about the teenage stage. I know what a terrorist I was as a teenager. Chloe, you were wild. I know. You were spicy and crazy. You're confirming that I should be terrified of the teenage phase. Absolutely. You and Kim, like, we're going to film a show and you guys have to be on it. Court and I were like, no, we're not. We don't want to be on this show.

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Chapter 2: How did Kris Jenner manage her children's teenage years?

00:50 - 01:02 Khloé

Then when you were like our manager and telling us what to do and we're like, what are you talking? Like, you're not going to boss us around. You just don't want people thinking, oh, working with family is a breeze. No, no, no. There are challenges for sure.

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01:03 - 01:07 Kris Jenner

Just use me as a filler when you don't want to tape another episode. Oh, you'll be the host?

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01:08 - 01:37 Khloé

No. Oh, yeah. You have nurtured that Rolodex. You will have, I don't know, Jesus sitting right there. Oh my gosh, that would be great. Hi, I'm so happy that you are on my podcast.

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01:37 - 02:01 Kris Jenner

Thank you for inviting me. We've been talking about this for years. Not me being here, but you having a podcast. Yes. And I'm really proud of you. Thank you. Because I think it's very brave of you to actually go ahead and pull the trigger and do this when you were so reluctant to do it for so long for so many reasons. And here you are and look at you. Here we are.

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00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

I know. Well, you know, having you on, obviously you are what many people aspire to have on any podcast, but you're my mom. And I feel like. We filmed together. You have a documentary coming out one day. There's books about you. For me, I felt like asking you the typical questions of... Where were you born? Where were you born? How was San Diego? What's your mom like? I feel like people...

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

that are real fans of yours know those things. And so, sure, we might glaze over those things. But I really thought an interesting topic that I feel is interesting and that people always ask me about. People are always praising us for our family dynamic.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

They always say, like, whether they come from a family with a lot of siblings, they always are like, oh, my gosh, you remind me of my mom and my siblings. Or if they don't have siblings... They dream like that's their fantasy. If I had a bunch of siblings, like that's the sibling dynamic and parent dynamic that I would love to have with my family.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

So I felt like it would be a great episode to talk to you about, I think, our dynamic, the dynamic that you have with your children and the many phases of that. But did you always dream about being a mother? Yeah. Well, yeah.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

I mean, that was the dream. The dream for me when I was growing up, all I wanted to do was have six kids. So much so that I would think about it day and night. I had things planned out in my head. I wanted to be, that was my goal in life, to get married and be able to raise a family, have six kids, and live happily ever after.

Chapter 3: How does Kris Jenner maintain a blended family?

05:16 - 05:22 Kris Jenner

I thought, how interesting that that was one of the main takeaways from that whole experience. Yeah.

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05:22 - 05:39 Khloé

And I think also, maybe, and it's so crazy to think this, but you had Kendall and Kylie when you were 40 and 41. And 28 years ago, or 27 years ago, it was really rare for someone in their 40s to have children.

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05:40 - 06:03 Kris Jenner

It was almost, like, whispered about. Like, taboo. Like, she's 40? Right. And she's going to have a baby? Is she nuts? And so... And then it was obviously... safe to have babies at that age. But everybody thought there was also some danger to it. Like, what's going on? How could she have a baby in her 40s? Aren't all her eggs gone? And it was very controversial.

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06:04 - 06:27 Kris Jenner

So I'm sure even you probably thought that ship has sailed. I didn't know what to think. I thought I got pregnant right away and then had a miscarriage. But I also had a miscarriage right before Robert was born. So at a couple months right before I got pregnant with Rob, I had a miscarriage and then I had a miscarriage right before Kendall.

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00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

So when I got pregnant with Kendall, it was, we were really trying because I thought, you know, I'm not, this isn't taking me down. I will show my body, you know, you almost, it's almost like a challenge to get pregnant.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

I don't think anyone questions your determination to get pregnant. I think everyone knows. I was laser focused.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

Laser focused.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

If you say you're going to do something, you're going to do something.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

And if somebody said, if I read something that said, drink iced tea or take, you know, Pepto-Bismol or have three coffees or whatever somebody's recommendation was, I would do whatever it took, you know, to try and get pregnant. Like all these little old wives tales.

Chapter 4: What was Kris Jenner's relationship with Robert Kardashian like after divorce?

08:20 - 08:41 Kris Jenner

Like, what do we say we were doing? Yeah. Let's say we were wrestling. Yeah, no. I knew what was happening. It was an Olympic competition. Gross. I can't even think about this anymore. Okay. This is like a therapy session. Are you going to make me go through every childhood trauma? No, that's not what this is about. And help you work it out until you're satisfied?

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08:42 - 08:47 Khloé

If Courtney was here, then that would probably happen, but I'm good. All right, good. I don't feel like I have a lot of childhood traumas.

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08:47 - 08:48 Kris Jenner

Thank God.

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08:48 - 09:12 Khloé

I don't. That makes one. Yeah. I think, well, me and Kim, I think are on the same boat. And what I find interesting, because I don't remember, like even I absolutely despise when people call Kendall and Kylie are half sisters. Yeah. Because I'm like, no, those are my real sisters. I was born and raised with them, spent every minute with them.

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00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

And so I really find that insulting when people say that about us. So I don't like that term. None of us like that term. Yeah. And I don't even think about that term. We don't use that term. We never do. But like just other people, I just hate when they have to recognize the divide. I really, really hate that. I don't hate a lot of things.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

95.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

So you were.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

I think I was 11.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

You were 11. So, but I don't remember ever there needing to be even a discussion or just even with my dad, I felt like everything, I don't know, we've always had this really strong family dynamic. We never felt like.

Chapter 5: How did the loss of Robert Kardashian affect the family dynamic?

18:57 - 19:09 Khloé

How did your role change of being, you know, a parent that had, yes, we still had Bruce, but it is different when our real... Dad is now gone.

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19:09 - 19:38 Kris Jenner

And who was also... He was so present in your lives and such a big part of our day-to-day. So it wasn't just like, oh, your dad lives in Iowa and he's not around very much or he's not available. He was emotionally available to you guys in such a big way. And he was emotionally available to me. And that really meant the world to me because he was... He was always there.

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19:38 - 19:52 Kris Jenner

And when I got remarried, Bruce didn't have a lot of money and I didn't have a lot of money. And we were trying to put it together and we were all collectively paying for everything.

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19:53 - 20:14 Kris Jenner

private school and all these different things but one of the funniest things and one of the nicest most lovely things that your dad did was when i was going through this your dad used to um kind of jokingly harp on me for my neiman marcus bill So every month it was the Neiman's bill. Oh, her and the Neiman's bill. She's still using my Neiman's card.

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00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

I was going to say it was his card.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

Yeah. Yeah.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

Let's talk about this relatable story.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

Okay. But anyway, it was a charge card. I was spending too much money. And so later when I was remarried, I remember one time he goes, do you need anything? I know, you know. it's crazy over there. And I said, well, if you want to help me pay my, now I had my own Neiman's card. And I asked him, would you pay the bill this month? And he goes, sure. And he paid my Neiman's card bill that month.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

And I'll never forget it. And we laughed about that. He goes, if you would have told me years ago that I would still be paying your Neiman Marcus bill, you know, or your clothing bill all these years later. And so we got a good laugh out of that. But I just think that That's cute.

Chapter 6: What parenting challenges did Kris Jenner face with her children?

25:51 - 26:17 Kris Jenner

She just threw up on everybody. Everybody. We couldn't get that formula right. So that was challenging. But after I got through that, I think I love the baby, baby stage. Then when they first learned to walk, that always used to be an adjustment for me because we always had stairs and, you know, a lot going on. And it was running around trying to chase four.

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26:18 - 26:46 Khloé

little kids around it was nuts I think for me my biggest right now I don't know I'm just I got to get this out of my head okay is that I have this like anxiety and this build-up about the teenage stage I know what a terrorist I was Chloe you were you were wild I know you were spicy and crazy okay you used to Chloe why Chloe so each one of you probably had a good 18 months of

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26:48 - 27:16 Kris Jenner

of hell week I called it hell week but it was really 18 months and one of the things you used to do regularly I might add was we had a bedroom you had a bedroom that had a patio off of the bedroom you put me downstairs because the other kids took my room so I moved downstairs well the babies needed to be up by us so you're downstairs and I think you're a pretty mature young lady

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27:17 - 27:32 Kris Jenner

But you're also very creative and resourceful and you used to stuff your bed as if it was a person sleeping under the covers, lock your door, leave the room, but lock that door and then you would leave.

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00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

And I don't know when you came back or how you got back in, but this went on for a minute, and I fell for it until one night I just thought, there's no way she's this good of a kid and puts herself to bed every night at 8 o'clock and doesn't come out of that room until, you know, 7 o'clock the next morning.

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

And we had to break into your room, and that's when we found out that you had been stuffing your bed and leaving. And then another time that I still can't get out of my head and I'm sort of like a little angry about it is you, We're friends. Let's call it you were friends. Okay. With somebody. Okay. And you used to cook for them.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

Are you going to talk about the pots?

00:00 - 00:00 Kris Jenner

You took the pots and pans. I can't let it go. I cannot let it go. I will buy you new pots and pans. I have pots and pans. But you took my favorite pots and pans from Tower Lane that I used to make. That was my pilaf pan. And you took my pilaf pan.

00:00 - 00:00 Khloé

What can I do to make this up to you? Because you bring this up on a weekly basis.

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