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The political power of Gen Z women

Fri, 09 May 2025

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The leftward shift of Gen Z women is one of the most dramatic political trends happening right now. Polling data from Gallup found that 40% of young women aged 18-29 self-describe as liberal compared to 28% of the same demographic at the beginning of the century. So what's causing a new generation of young women to move to the left?Brittany is joined by founder of the Up and Up Newsletter, Rachel Janfaza, and New York Times reporter, Claire Cain Miller. Together they discuss what we should make of the growing political gender gap between young men and young women.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

13.175 - 37.57 Brittany Luce

Hello, hello. I'm Brittany Luce, and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident. Hello. A quick note before we start today's show. You may have heard that President Trump has issued an executive order seeking to block all federal funding to NPR.

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38.131 - 89.244 Brittany Luce

This is the latest in a series of threats to media organizations across the country. Whatever changes this action brings, NPR's commitment to reporting the news without fear or favor will never change. Thank you. We are proud to do this work for you. and with you. This week, we're connecting the dots between Dobbs, the Manosphere, and Gallup. I know, I know. How are all of these things connected?

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89.604 - 98.673 Brittany Luce

Well, we are going to find out with founder of the Up and Up newsletter, Rachel Janfaza, and New York Times reporter, Claire Kane Miller. Rachel, Claire, welcome to It's Been a Minute.

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99.033 - 99.934 Rachel Janfaza

Thank you for having us.

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Chapter 2: How does Gen Z differ from Millennials?

99.954 - 105.049 Brittany Luce

It's great to be here. So you two, what do you think is the biggest difference between Gen Z women and millennial women?

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105.75 - 111.935 Rachel Janfaza

Gen Z women hate skinny jeans and prefer middle parts to side parts. Wow.

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112.215 - 121.844 Brittany Luce

I'm feeling very youthful right now. I feel as I sit here with my middle part that I've maintained for the past six or seven years because a Gen Z person got me together. Exactly.

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124.025 - 145.487 Claire Cain Miller

What about you, Claire? I think millennial women are strivers. They are ambitious and they're about achieving a lot. And I think Gen Z women, not to say they're not ambitious, but they have more of a sense of a balance and self-care and this idea that work should not be their main thing and that they should be able to stand up for themselves in that way.

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146.221 - 162.848 Brittany Luce

You know, I'm going to actually definitely second that one. That is something over the years I have learned a lot more about from Gen Z colleagues, I'll say. Well, if you haven't heard, there's another big difference in the headlines that's raising eyebrows. And that difference can be found... in their political views.

164.951 - 187.244 Brittany Luce

Recent polling and survey data suggests that young women ages 18 to 29 have become increasingly liberal in their politics. And this isn't just a case of youngest generation being more liberal than their older peers. the data actually shows that Gen Z women in particular identify as even more liberal than older generations did at the same age.

Chapter 3: Why are Gen Z women shifting left politically?

187.684 - 219.529 Brittany Luce

For example, Gallup's polling data says that 28% of women aged 18 to 29 self-described as liberal between 2001 and 2007. If you look at that same age range from the years 2017 to 2024, the number of young women self-identifying as liberal shoots up to 40%. No other cohort polled saw a change this dramatic. So that has me wondering, what is behind Gen Z women's apparent shift to the left?

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219.89 - 238.099 Brittany Luce

Why aren't other generations seeing a similar shift? And what should we make of the growing political gap between Gen Z men and Gen Z women? But first, just to like set a foundation for the conversation, why is it that younger generations tend to be more liberal in the first place? Claire, we'll hear from you first on this.

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238.92 - 253.642 Claire Cain Miller

So in general, young people tend to be more liberal. And there's this idea that you get more conservative as you age when you start paying more income taxes and you have kids and want to move to the suburbs and start having these conservative ideas. On the other hand...

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254.342 - 271.452 Claire Cain Miller

You know, I think there's a significant amount of political science I've read that disputes that fact a little and suggests that what's happening politically when you come of age, when you're around 18, really affects your lifelong views. And so it might just be about this moment in time that these young women are living in.

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271.792 - 278.736 Brittany Luce

Interesting. Interesting. And what do you think, Rachel? Why do you think that younger generations tend to be more liberal in the first place?

279.312 - 306.184 Rachel Janfaza

I mean, I think that young people are typically more idealistic. They have perhaps in past generations and maybe for a cohort of Gen Z have faced less turbulent times. And so therefore have more of a rosier outlook. But I actually think that has changed for Gen Z, given that this is the generation that came of age during the COVID-19 pandemic. And also just given the way that we think

311.167 - 324.354 Brittany Luce

Well, the latest Gallup poll about political leanings and gender uses data from the beginning of Trump's term into the beginning of his second term. Claire, do you think that Gen Z women becoming more liberal is a reaction to the rise of Donald Trump?

Chapter 4: What societal factors influence Gen Z's political views?

325.174 - 349.331 Claire Cain Miller

So that same Gallup data shows that the turning point when young women just became way more liberal is 2016. So yes, I think it has a lot to do with Donald Trump. I called a bunch of young women voters and asked them about this. And they sort of described this triple punch. First, Hillary Clinton, who was on track to become the first female president, lost to Donald Trump.

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349.571 - 374.896 Claire Cain Miller

Shortly thereafter was Me Too. And then shortly thereafter, Roe v. Wade was overturned. This is also this generation of girls who was really, truly raised to believe that they could be anything that they wanted to be. This was the first generation of girls that was really out casing boys in school. And so in a way, this was all this big awakening. It really didn't fit with what they had been told.

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375.396 - 382.547 Claire Cain Miller

And as they entered adulthood, there were all of a sudden these major things happening, showing them that sexism was in fact still rampant.

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382.887 - 402.773 Rachel Janfaza

Adding onto that too, to Claire's point, I mean, there's a fourth punch, which was that in the 2024 election, President Trump won again, beating former Vice President Kamala Harris, who again could have been the first female president. And so I think it's kind of been just one thing after another. And we saw this

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404.193 - 430.622 Rachel Janfaza

resistance to Trump starting to flourish in the very, very early days of his presidency in 2017 with the women's marches. And for many young women, that was the first march or demonstration that they ever attended. And so I think there was also a solidarity and a sisterhood sense that was forged during that time period as well that certainly lingers on to today.

431.081 - 452.226 Brittany Luce

Interesting. All of the political moments that you mentioned, I remember feeling extremely monumental. And there's Gallup data that looks at people between the ages of 18 and 29 from the years 2001 to 2007. And in that data, Gen Z men aren't significantly more or less liberal than when their millennial counterparts were the same age, right?

452.246 - 474.737 Brittany Luce

So millennial men back in the 2000s and Gen Z men today are kind of hovering around the same kind of place as far as like who's liberal and who's not. But on the other hand, there's a surge in Gen Z women identifying as liberal. What effect do you think this trend could have on the broader culture? Rachel, I'd love to hear from you first on this.

475.484 - 499.924 Rachel Janfaza

So I hold listening sessions with young people across the country and have spent some time in high school classrooms with young people. And I see the effects of this gender gap playing out the most there. I have heard from high school students that it oftentimes in an academic setting can feel that young men and young women are pitted at odds against one another.

499.944 - 526.754 Rachel Janfaza

And they describe this as not only uncomfortable, but pretty tense. And when it comes to the high school setting, I've heard from plenty of both young men and young women that it seems that young women are called on more in class or speaking up more frequently. And there's sort of a confidence gap in terms of the young men and young women who are willing to speak up and out in classroom settings.

Chapter 5: How does the political divide affect Gen Z's social dynamics?

552.119 - 555.842 Brittany Luce

A gender war. My, my, my. Claire, I'd love to hear from you on this.

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556.403 - 569.734 Claire Cain Miller

I think it's one of many ways that young men and women are diverging. So they're voting differently. They're going to college at different rates. They're going to church at different rates. Young men are becoming more religious compared with young women.

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569.754 - 573.537 Brittany Luce

And that feels new. I feel like it's typically been the other way around. Yeah.

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573.638 - 587.412 Claire Cain Miller

That's really new. Young men's labor force participation is stagnant while young women's is surging. Young women are more likely to be partnered. There's just so many ways in which their life paths seem to be diverging.

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587.432 - 604.345 Claire Cain Miller

I think this has effects for dating and family formation and also just for a general sense that we are all moving in the same direction, that we want the same things, and that we're pushing towards sort of the same goals and outcomes.

607.637 - 611.862 Brittany Luce

Coming up, a theory on the political divide within Gen Z itself.

612.362 - 618.429 Rachel Janfaza

There was a Yale Youth Poll that showed this split as well with younger Gen Z leaning more conservative.

618.87 - 624.416 Brittany Luce

What caused it and how it potentially impacted the 2024 election? After this quick break.

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Chapter 6: What are the broader implications of Gen Z's political trends?

660.487 - 682.281 Rachel Janfaza

Yeah. And there's been recent hard data that backs this. There was a Yale youth poll that showed this split as well with younger Gen Z leaning more conservative. I think it really is reflective of how old a member of Gen Z was during the time of the COVID-19 pandemic. And I call these two cohorts Gen Z 1.0 and Gen Z 2.0 with the cutoff being

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682.748 - 702.135 Rachel Janfaza

who had graduated high school before the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, because in many ways, students were guinea pigs during the pandemic, and the ones who felt the intimate realities of the lockdown, social distancing policies, masking mandates, school closures, school reopenings, discrepancies between the two.

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702.575 - 713.833 Rachel Janfaza

And so young people just became more resistant to authority, and that coincided with Trump and him being so outspoken against authority, against the system.

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714.454 - 733.665 Rachel Janfaza

And once Trump was out of office and the Biden administration was really the one dealing with the end of the pandemic and the reopening of society, the person to blame or the party to blame for many of these policies lingering on were the Democrats in many cases, certainly in liberal cities across the country.

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734.309 - 753.625 Brittany Luce

really, really interesting. We've discussed on this show plenty of times how outcomes educationally, professionally for young men have really changed in this past generation. But it makes me wonder, like, Rachel, what are young men saying in your listening sessions, like about how they feel in this particular moment, and how that informs their political leanings?

754.469 - 772.929 Rachel Janfaza

So I've had a lot of young men tell me that when it comes to social dynamics and political dynamics, they have for a while amid a movement for women's rights and rights of all people felt that they've been left out of the conversation.

773.413 - 796.708 Rachel Janfaza

And I think we saw this play out most during the 2024 election when I heard from so many young men saying to me that, A, they felt like the Democratic Party didn't want them there or wasn't speaking to them, in part because the Democratic Party was championing not just women's rights, but LGBTQ rights and reproductive health care access and abortion access.

797.048 - 813.675 Rachel Janfaza

And while they could have been brought in as allies and been, you know, strong leaders in the messaging around these topics, I think that young men felt like they weren't supposed to be a part of the conversation. And I don't think this always comes from a place of poor intentions.

814.028 - 827.155 Rachel Janfaza

I've heard from young men, and this is really interesting, who say that they understand that men have always had the opportunity to speak and that women haven't. And so when it comes to issues that affect women, they feel like they shouldn't be the spokespeople for that issue.

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