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Encore: The Rise and Fall of Girls Gone Wild | Part 5

Thu, 24 Apr 2025

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In this episode, the Girls Gone Wild empire begins to falter. To read more of Vanessa's writing on sex in college, read her book Blurred Lines: Sex, Power, and Consent on Campus. A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team and gain access to behind the scenes content, join our community at joincampsidemedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What disturbing content is discussed in this episode?

5.152 - 10.255 Unknown Speaker

This episode contains descriptions of violence that may be disturbing for some listeners.

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Chapter 2: What happened in Panama City Beach with Joe Francis?

20.32 - 48.248 Vanessa Grigoriadis

Here's something I didn't tell you before from Panama City Beach in 2002. Remember when I was kicked out of the Holiday Inn with Joe Francis? Joe was arrested. I was told to leave. And I schlepped my roller bag over to the shooter's condo, where they stayed up drinking all night and I crashed on a couch. The next day, Joe got sprung. We met on an airstrip in front of his idling private plane.

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Chapter 3: How did the free fall experience on the plane unfold?

48.668 - 51.249 Unknown Speaker

I was like, is there a box to check for a plane? Yeah.

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Chapter 4: What cultural impacts did the raunch era have?

53.27 - 77.398 Vanessa Grigoriadis

As soon as he got out of jail... He wanted his pilot to get his Gulfstream ready so we could get the hell out of Panama City. We were on our way to another spring break spot, South Padre Island, Texas. Now, I am going to spare you what happened in South Padre because it was the exact same shit as before. The shooters, the flashing, the flirting.

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Chapter 5: What were the double standards faced by women during this time?

78.258 - 105.58 Vanessa Grigoriadis

But I am going to tell you what happened on the plane. Joe told the pilot to go straight up as far as he could go and then let the plane do a huge arc, a free fall. He wanted to do zero gravity. It's something that pilots have known about forever. By dropping your plane, you can cheat gravity, at least for a few minutes, even though there is a bit of a cost to it.

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Chapter 6: How did Joe Francis respond to legal challenges?

105.6 - 107.901 Unknown Speaker

They call these planes the vomit comets.

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Chapter 7: What were the consequences for the women involved in Girls Gone Wild?

109.665 - 134.78 Vanessa Grigoriadis

No one threw up on Joe's plane, but we all started detaching. And then we were flying around the cabin like astronauts. And straight down the center aisle, there was Joe. He was coming straight at me doing a somersault. He was weightless. He was free. He was working totally against the laws of gravity.

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Chapter 8: What ultimately led to Joe's downfalls in the industry?

141.041 - 180.433 Vanessa Grigoriadis

From Campside Media and Sony Music Entertainment, I'm Vanessa Grigoriadis, and this is Infamous. We're on our final episode of our five-part series, Boy Gone Wild. Stay tuned afterward for a special episode. Okay, back to Joe. When I think about the 2000s, at least in terms of pop culture, I think about Joe doing that free fall somersault on the plane and what he said afterwards.

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181.273 - 206.969 Vanessa Grigoriadis

He said, I mean, he yelled this, I'm so amped. I'm so amped. And back then, everyone was just so amped all the time. I did it all for the boogie, the boogie, so you can take that cookie and stick it up. The early 2000s were about big. They were about raunch. They were about the birth of reality shows.

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207.59 - 210.193 Unknown Speaker

I love the Jersey Shore! I love freedom!

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212.06 - 239.182 Vanessa Grigoriadis

But as crazy as this is to contemplate, there was also this really serious Puritan streak to what was going on. The Raunch era was also about how Raunch was sort of not okay. About how taking your top off for Girls Gone Wild might be the height of feeling good at that exact moment, but it was something that you should later feel pretty ashamed of. Like, listen to this clip from Jersey Shore.

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239.522 - 242.043 Unknown Speaker

Michael, go upstairs to yours and have fun.

242.823 - 252.726 Vanessa Grigoriadis

Angelina is mad because Mike, remember him, the situation, has brought girls back after a night out. So she insults the girls.

253.206 - 258.507 Unknown Speaker

There's nothing wrong with what I'm doing. I mean, if a girl's a slut, I mean, she should be abused.

259.868 - 283.753 Vanessa Grigoriadis

This double standard, this mixed message, was everywhere back then. and it extended to me too. I said earlier that there was this idea back then of two classes of women. The women who were exploited, who generally had very light bank accounts, and the women who exploited them, who went to college, got a good education,

284.474 - 309.564 Vanessa Grigoriadis

made their living producing or analyzing or having something to do with pop culture. I told myself I was an analyst of all this stuff. And in some ways, I was. But in my haste to become successful myself, to become a female Hunter Thompson who got into the seamy side of culture, I did a lot of stuff that I feel pretty weird about today.

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