Josh Waitzkin: The Art of Learning & Living Life

6433.846 - 6453.264 Andrew Huberman

And, you know, but he tends to work with artists early on when they're in that really like pure state of not thinking about the returns on their investment and all that. And you know, he said many times before to me and publicly that, you know, after people achieve a certain level of fame, it's much harder to get back to that just pure picture of oneself, pre-conscious expression.