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Russia's chemical weapons chief killed in Moscow bomb blast

Tue, 17 Dec 2024

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Igor Kirillov died in the explosion on Tuesday. Also; a powerful earthquake flattens buildings and cuts communications in Vanuatu, and how one letter was delivered to the wrong address thousands of kilometres away.

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0.089 - 3.499 Steve Rosenberg

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3.78 - 22.049 Chris Barrow

This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Chris Barrow, and at 14 GMT on Tuesday 17th December, these are our main stories. A Russian general sanctioned for using banned chemical weapons in Ukraine has been killed in a bomb blast. Kiev said they carried it out. We have the latest.

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22.469 - 47.039 Chris Barrow

A powerful earthquake flattens buildings and cuts communications on the Pacific island nation of Vanuatu. And the pop star Adele has been accused of copying a Brazilian composer. Also in the podcast... Christian worship continues in Syria but how are people feeling after a tumultuous week in the Middle East?

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51.274 - 64.765 Chris Barrow

We start in Moscow in an ordinary neighbourhood just a few kilometres southeast of the Kremlin where in the early hours of this morning a remote-controlled bomb hidden in a scooter went off outside the entrance to an apartment block. This local resident Yulia was nearby.

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66.146 - 77.555 Yulia

The explosion was so powerful I was terribly afraid to look out the window. People started coming out of this house to see what happened. Thankfully my building wasn't damaged but it's very scary.

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78.135 - 93.975 Chris Barrow

The blast killed a senior Russian general, Igor Kirillov, who was in charge of Russia's chemical weapons as well as his assistant. The attack comes a day after Ukrainian prosecutors accused the general of using banned chemical weapons. The BBC's Russia editor Steve Rosenberg is in Moscow and gave me the latest.

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94.295 - 115.994 Steve Rosenberg

I was there earlier this morning, and the apartment block had been cordoned off. There were police lines and Russian investigators outside the entrance, still clearing things away and looking for evidence. Quite a bit of damage to that particular entranceway, clearly, and a lot of shock. I mean, we spoke to residents nearby, and the sense was that, you know, suddenly this war...

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117.395 - 133.382 Steve Rosenberg

which for many people has been a war on television or a war they've looked at on their phones, something that doesn't really concern them. You know, what happened today was a real jolt to the system when you have a top Russian general being assassinated in a residential district of Moscow.

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133.502 - 155.639 Steve Rosenberg

It brings it home, certainly to people living around there, that actually the war in Ukraine is not happening... A long way away. It's actually very real and very close to home. And one thing the Russian authorities, I think, have been quite successful at to this point has been to normalise the war so that people think, well, you know, it's going on, but we'll get on with our own lives.

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156.12 - 161.866 Steve Rosenberg

As I say, this was a jolt to the system and a reminder that actually it's very close to home.

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162.506 - 171.57 Chris Barrow

Is the assumption by residents there that Ukraine did this? Because I know there are claims from within the security forces of Ukraine that this was carried out by the Ukrainian side.

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171.99 - 195.692 Steve Rosenberg

Well, certainly the feeling from Moscow is, yes, Russia is pretty convinced that Ukraine was behind this. Russian officials have been pointing the finger at Ukraine, also at the West, suggesting that somehow Western countries orchestrated this attack. There's almost certain to be a response from Moscow. Retaliation already calls from some quarters for retaliation.

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196.213 - 212.101 Steve Rosenberg

It is a very high-profile killing. In Moscow, a very high-ranked lieutenant general. And, as I say, we're still trying to piece together exactly what happened and the circumstances here, but, yeah, I think a sense of shock would be the right way to describe things.

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212.341 - 217.983 Chris Barrow

And is this, it sounds like, a significant blow to Russia's war effort and organisation at the top?

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218.464 - 236.329 Steve Rosenberg

Well, it is a blow, certainly, but, I mean, when you look back over the last, what, nearly three years of... what the Kremlin called originally and still calls the special military operation, something that was only going to last a few days or a few weeks maximum and has dragged on for three years. There have been so many blows.

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236.729 - 254.073 Steve Rosenberg

This is an operation, a war, which has not gone at all according to plan for Moscow. And even though Vladimir Putin only yesterday, when he was addressing army chiefs, was very upbeat and saying things were going Russia's way and Russia had the strategic initiative in this war...

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254.693 - 277.024 Steve Rosenberg

When you look back at what has happened, and so much has happened and so much has gone wrong for the Kremlin in three years, what happened today, early this morning, this bomb attack, is the latest in a long line of incidents that Moscow did not prepare for. when Vladimir Putin ordered Russian troops across the border into Ukraine nearly three years ago. Steve Rosenberg in Moscow.

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277.445 - 294.498 Chris Barrow

A powerful earthquake has hit the Pacific island nation of Vanuatu, damaging and even flattening some buildings in the capital Port Vila. Communications have also been affected after the magnitude 7.3 quake, which was followed by tremors. The BBC managed to get through to Dan McGarry, a journalist based in Port Vila.

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294.918 - 320.635 Dan McGarry

It was the most violent earthquake I've experienced in my 21 years living in Vanuatu and in the Pacific Islands. I've seen a lot of large earthquakes, never one like this. My wife, who was born in Vanuatu, said it was the worst that she'd experienced in her life. The damage that we've seen in the capital is more extensive than any I've seen in previous earthquakes.

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321.336 - 324.538 Chris Barrow

Our correspondent Katie Watson is monitoring events from Sydney.

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325.333 - 349.764 Katie Watson

It struck at 12.47 local time, so just around lunchtime at about 30 kilometres from the capital, Port Vila, and a depth of up to 57 kilometres. So as we heard just there, yeah, I think a lot of people were shocked by the intensity of the quake and the mean depth. a series of smaller aftershocks in the hours after the initial quake.

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350.164 - 370.58 Katie Watson

But very quickly, people were jumping on social media and posting images of one flattened building where you could see authorities were looking to see whether there were any people trapped. And there was also the U.S. Embassy building that showed pictures of broken windows. And that same building, the U.K. High Commission building,

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371.06 - 392.808 Katie Watson

the French embassy, the New Zealand High Commission, they're all in the same building. So the US have said that their people are safe and sound. So if New Zealand, that we're able to evacuate safely during the earthquake, but still it is a massive operation and the communications are still very difficult on the ground. It's a small island nation, very much in the middle of the Pacific.

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392.828 - 395.769 Katie Watson

So you can imagine the logistics of trying to get help.

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396.377 - 405.342 Chris Barrow

How usual is it for Vanuatu to get extreme weather events? Because it sounds like, from what Dan McGarry was saying, that they do happen, but just not to this extent.

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405.782 - 422.551 Katie Watson

Absolutely. I mean, it's in an area of seismic activity. It's a part of the world that's not unused to natural disasters. Last year, there was a series of cyclones that affected the island. There have been earthquakes in recent years. But the extent that, you know, the size of this earthquake and obviously the distance between

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422.951 - 443.829 Katie Watson

The intensity at which it hit took everybody by surprise and is obviously making people nervous with the aftershocks that we have been seeing and registered on the islands. But it's about 80 islands, an archipelago of just over 80 islands, very low-lying islands, and that's why there was concern initially about a potential tsunami threat.

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444.29 - 461.299 Katie Watson

It is a part of the world that is very used to natural disasters, but it's also part of the world that's very vulnerable to them in terms of you know, getting support, getting help. And Australia, which is one of the closest large nations, has said that it stands by, ready to assist Vanuatu and no doubt will be one of the first on the ground when they can get there.

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461.912 - 480.226 Chris Barrow

Katie Watson. The leader of the rebel group that toppled the Assad regime is calling for sanctions against the country to be lifted. Ahmed al-Sharah, who's now Syria's de facto leader, told a visiting British envoy that it was important to end restrictions imposed during the rule of Bashar al-Assad so that displaced Syrians could return home.

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480.766 - 490.994 Chris Barrow

Some HTS fighters and families are returning to the western city of Homs. Our chief international correspondent, Lise Doucette, made regular trips there throughout the war and has just returned to the city.

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498.84 - 529.943 Lise Doucette

The church of the Virgin Lady of the Girdle, in the heart of the old city of Homs, said to be one of the oldest churches in the world. And these streets saw some of the worst of the fighting in Syria's war. We came to this church nearly a decade ago when President Assad's forces pushed the rebels out of the old city of Homs. And then the church was cold and dark.

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530.764 - 549.722 Lise Doucette

The pews shattered, smashed and scattered across the floor. And now the rebels are back in control of Syria. How do you feel today?

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553.324 - 562.969 Unnamed Syrian Christian Woman

I hope that even better days are coming. We are proud of our people. We're all together as one. And I hope there'll always be a place for Christians in Syria.

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563.709 - 567.291 Lise Doucette

You're Syrian, you're a Christian, you're a woman.

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567.651 - 567.891 Unnamed Syrian Christian Woman

Yes.

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568.252 - 570.333 Lise Doucette

What is your main worry? Um...

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573.89 - 582.419 Unnamed Syrian Christian Woman

I hope that we Christians will be protected. We need some reassurance about our place here. We deserve to be here like all the other religions.

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593.942 - 609.567 Lise Doucette

Just listen to the sound of the city. There's a lightness in the air now. It's so different from the darkness of a decade ago when Syrian forces lay siege to the old city and neighbourhoods nearby.

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610.868 - 617.77 Dr. Hayan Al-Abrash

I have a lot of memories about destroyed and explosion. I have some flashbacks about that.

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618.666 - 661.782 Lise Doucette

Dr. Hayan Al-Abrash survived the Old City siege, two years treating patients under fire, underground. Now he's back, for the first time in 10 years. We're going into this empty, charred warehouse now. Dr. Hayan thinks this is... where they had their underground secret makeshift hospital. Going down the stairs, oh, dark, dank, cold, chilling.

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663.944 - 668.307 Dr. Hayan Al-Abrash

Yes, yes, yes. The patient, you see, come from there to here.

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668.347 - 670.869 Lise Doucette

They come down the stairs? Yes. How does it feel?

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672.028 - 682.839 Dr. Hayan Al-Abrash

It's a strange feeling. I remember the people saying, here, screaming, we don't have a lot of medicine, we don't have blood. A lot of them, you know, injured and need blood to treat.

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683.9 - 684.962 Lise Doucette

It must have been cold.

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685.582 - 704.693 Dr. Hayan Al-Abrash

Yes, it was very cold. Very cold. Now it's time to build Syria for everyone, but not who killed us and have blood in his arm. For that, we don't forgive. It's impossible for us, yes.

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708.275 - 742.781 Lise Doucette

And Syrians gather here at the city's most iconic landmark, the new clock tower. It was here in the spring of 2011 that Syrians gathered for peaceful demonstrations to call for greater freedoms. And now, it's a place of pilgrimage. On one side, I can see women, little girls, some in headscarves, some not, posing for selfies. And around the corner, there's men with guns.

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744.181 - 746.762 Lise Doucette

This is a snapshot of a new Syria.

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748.979 - 765.258 Chris Barrow

Lise Doucette. Researchers in Germany say they've deciphered an inscription which could be the oldest known evidence of Christianity in Europe. The writing is on a scroll in an 1800-year-old silver amulet, which the archaeologists digitally unrolled. Sophie Smith reports.

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766.243 - 789.7 Sophie Smith

Until now, it's been hidden inside a silver amulet, wrapped in a wafer-thin piece of foil that's too fragile for archaeologists to unravel by hand. The message comes from a time when Christianity was still spreading across Europe and was taken from the grave of a man found buried in what is now the German city of Frankfurt, in the former Roman city of Nida.

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790.501 - 800.766 Sophie Smith

Although the amulet itself was found in 2018, researchers have only now been able to decipher the scroll using computer tomography, which is scans similar to x-rays.

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801.547 - 804.388 Birgit Schwan

You can see and read. This is an E.

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806.926 - 813.951 Sophie Smith

Birgit Schwan is one of the conservationists from the Archaeological Museum of Frankfurt and Mainz that deciphered the text.

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816.233 - 828.143 Unnamed Conservationist

Both the capsule and scroll are made of silver. The scroll consists only of a very, very thin silver foil with a thickness of only 63 micrometres, which made further rolling impossible. So?

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829.884 - 856.314 Sophie Smith

What does it say? In the name of Jesus Christ, Son of God, it says, may this means of salvation protect the man who surrenders himself to the will of the Lord Jesus Christ. The owner of the scripture is thought to have died between 230 and 270 AD, when Christians were still persecuted. The researchers have said that evidence of Christianity north of the Alps has never existed before this study.

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856.894 - 878.742 Sophie Smith

But it's not the first time this year that similar technology has been shown to decipher historical artefacts. In February, researchers used artificial intelligence to digitally unroll charred historical texts in Pompeii, which means that scientific breakthroughs have an important role in helping us understand the past.

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879.383 - 880.423 Chris Barrow

That was Sophie Smith.

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883.379 - 890.925 Keith Georgiou

Still to come in this podcast... A nice pink envelope and thinking to myself, right, who's that from? Because I've got a birthday coming up and obviously you've got Christmas.

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891.465 - 922.363 Chris Barrow

And you're looking and then just confused. The letter that was delivered to the wrong address 17,000 kilometres away. Let's turn to Wisconsin now where at least two people have been killed and six others wounded in the latest school shooting in the United States. A female student opened fire inside a classroom of the Abundant Life Christian School in Madison on Monday morning.

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923.003 - 926.064 Chris Barrow

The police chief, Sean Barnes, gave details about the suspect.

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926.565 - 948.837 Sean Barnes

The shooter has now been identified as 15-year-old Natalie Rupnow who went by the name Samantha. She was a student at the school and evidence suggests she died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. At this time, we believe there was only one shooter involved. We are still working to determine a motive.

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949.518 - 957.843 Sean Barnes

Detectives have talked to her family members this evening as well as conduct a search of the shooter's home here in Madison.

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958.604 - 962.246 Chris Barrow

Naomi Ruckham from our partner broadcaster CBS gave us the latest.

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962.776 - 985.708 Naomi Ruckham

This is what we know so far. Police in Madison, Wisconsin, are searching for answers after a 15-year-old female student opened fire at a small private Christian school yesterday morning. One student and one teacher were killed and half a dozen others were injured. The young woman also died after turning the gun on herself. The details are chilling, involving so many young lives.

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986.308 - 1004.169 Naomi Ruckham

Police arrived on scene at the school minutes after a second grader called to report an active shooter just before 11 a.m. A sixth grader said he heard the gunshots while sitting in English class. The teacher who was killed was a substitute for another teacher who had called out sick.

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1004.87 - 1023.9 Naomi Ruckham

Meanwhile, police have identified that shooter as 15-year-old student Natalie Rupnow, who went by the name Samantha. She was pronounced dead on the way to the hospital and police recovered a 9mm handgun from the scene. Investigators have searched her home and say the family is cooperating with the investigation.

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1023.92 - 1030.243 Chris Barrow

Naomi Ruckam from CBS. Now, let's see if you can hear the similarity. This is our first song...

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1033.619 - 1037.285 Yulia

I only wanted to have fun.

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1037.725 - 1067.24 Chris Barrow

That's Adele's hit from 2015, Million Years Ago. And now listen to this. That's Mulieres, a Brazilian composer who said Adele had ripped off his earlier samba hit. A Brazilian judge seems to agree with him. He's just ordered Adele's song to be pulled from all radio stations and streaming services around the world because he deemed it to be plagiarism.

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1067.72 - 1071.961 Chris Barrow

Our America's regional editor, Leonardo Rocha, told us more about how it's come to this.

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1072.469 - 1097.092 Birgit Schwan

Well, I've heard about this alleged plagiarism for years. I mean, people have been sending these melodies, even mixed versions of them put together for a few years from Brazil. The songwriter Toninho Gerais, he wrote that song for probably Brazil's number one samba singer, Martinho da Vila. It was launched in 1995 and it was a big hit in the mid-90s.

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1097.953 - 1116.465 Birgit Schwan

So I imagine many people, when they heard Adele's song, they said, oh, that sounds similar. But of course, that can happen in music. There are many cases where there's just a coincidence. The melody is similar. It's quite a simple melody. But what this songwriter has been saying is that they approached Adele.

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1116.746 - 1127.353 Birgit Schwan

They tried to reach a deal for compensation and for some of the copyrights, and they didn't get any reply from her or from the label. And that's why they decided to go to court.

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1127.993 - 1137.201 Nick Miles

So it's been a long time coming, but now it's come. And it's a big one. It's a global ban, isn't it? How does Brazil have such a wide jurisdiction in this?

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1137.641 - 1156.556 Birgit Schwan

I was surprised with that. And what's been said in Brazil, the local media, is that Brazil is a signatory of the Berne Convention that protects copyright. So as one of the signatories, I think it's 180, 181 countries. If one of the countries issues a ban, a judge, the others have to follow.

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1156.856 - 1177.47 Birgit Schwan

And the way they will try to enforce that is by imposing a fine on the record label, Adele's record label, every time someone across the world, in New Zealand, in Australia, in Zambia, anywhere, if they hear this song being played or downloaded, they could issue a fine. I don't know how effective that will be, but it's quite strong.

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1178.038 - 1183.1 Nick Miles

So as far as we know, is there any recourse for Adele or her record label now? Can they appeal?

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1183.7 - 1206.468 Birgit Schwan

They can appeal. In Brazilian courts, a judge can issue an injunction and someone else a day later can just void that. But it just highlights the case that many people who are not in Brazil are probably unaware of. I mean, it's a very similar song, but that doesn't mean anything. And it's going to be decided by the experts or maybe in an agreement.

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1207.068 - 1224.458 Chris Barrow

Leonardo Rocha speaking to Nick Miles. A BBC investigation has found reports of at least 565 children being killed or wounded by crude bombs in the Indian state of West Bengal over the last three decades. The homemade devices have been an issue in the region for years, as New Persona reports.

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1225.765 - 1229.487 New Persona

When election season arrives in West Bengal, so does the violence.

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1229.847 - 1235.631 Pankaj Datta

Bombs, arson, attacks, clashes among political parties seem to be commonplace in West Bengal in election season.

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1235.911 - 1258.647 New Persona

And this violence is dominated by crude bombs. Homemade explosives packed with shrapnel. Children pick them up, mistaking them for toys. Some breaking news coming in. We're learning that a minor has been killed in an explosion. In fact, children, we believe, were playing in that area when the bomb hit. There is no publicly available data on crude bomb child casualties in West Bengal.

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1259.008 - 1286.983 New Persona

So the BBC went through the archives of two Bengali newspapers since 1996, unearthing reports of 565 children killed, maimed or injured. On average, one child every 18 days. Cases do go unreported, so the actual number is likely to be higher. 14-year-old Sabina sits on a wooden stool outside her home. She cradles a small black coat on her lap.

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1287.383 - 1317.99 New Persona

Her midnight blue headscarf hides what's left of her right arm. I had taken my goat to the garden, she says, describing how she saw a ball under a tree. She started playing with it, and that's when the explosion happened. Amina Bibi is Sabina's mother. My daughter kept trying, saying she would never get her hand back. I kept consoling her, but she kept on crying.

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1321.141 - 1345.277 New Persona

Crude bombs were first used by revolutionaries in West Bengal in the early 1900s to fight the British. They gradually became an accepted feature of the state's politics, most notably in the 1960s as Maoist rebels fought for control of the state. Since then, bomb-making skills have been passed down the generations. Pankaj Datta is West Bengal's former Inspector General of Police.

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1345.658 - 1348.18 New Persona

He passed away last month.

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1348.62 - 1360.53 Pankaj Datta

During any major election here, you will see the rampant use of bombs. The sole purpose of this use is for area dominance and political dominance. If this culture persists, you can never do good for society.

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1364.204 - 1389.327 New Persona

In the middle of the 2024 general election, another West Bengal family mourns a child killed by a crude bomb. My son is gone, cries the mother of Raj Biswas. The nine-year-old was playing when he found the explosives. The BBC asked West Bengal's four main political parties whether they commissioned crude bombs for electoral gain.

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1389.988 - 1401.678 New Persona

The Communist Party of India Marxist and the Indian National Congress strongly denied doing so. The All India Trinamool Congress and the Bharatiya Janta Party did not respond.

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1401.698 - 1402.979 Raj Biswas's Mother

Thank you.

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1404.133 - 1414.773 New Persona

As family and friends lay Raj to rest, chanting from a political rally can be heard in the wind. Hail Bengal, the crowd shouts. Hail Bengal.

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1416.277 - 1432.426 Chris Barrow

New Persona reporting. The Spanish Prime Minister, Pedro Sánchez, has said he's devastated by the death of the actor Marisa Paredes, praising her as one of the most important actresses our country has produced. Paredes, who was 78, started acting as a teenager and appeared in dozens of films.

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1432.706 - 1450.28 Chris Barrow

She became an international name after she starred in several films by Pedro Amoldavar, as well as Roberto Benigni's Oscar-winning Life is Beautiful. Gilles Jacob, former president of the Cannes Film Festival, paid tribute to Paredes for her calm grace and that gentle cheerfulness she ignited with one look of her pale eyes.

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1450.741 - 1459.149 Chris Barrow

The Spanish Film Academy has said Spanish cinema is left without one of its most iconic actresses. Our Europe regional editor Warren Bull has more on her life.

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1460.41 - 1464.194 Leo Macias

Is there any possibility, no matter how small, of saving our lives?

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1464.878 - 1480.884 Warren Bull

Marisa Paredes in one of her most acclaimed roles, Leo Macias in Pedro Almodovar's The Flower of My Secret. It was one of many roles she played in the Spanish director's films that brought her international acclaim. Marisa Paredes was born in Madrid and started acting at the age of 14.

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1481.924 - 1499.934 Warren Bull

Still under the rule of General Franco, Spain in the 1960s was opening up more and Marisa Paredes was able to make the most of the wider variety of acting roles for women. With her distinctive gravelly Madrilenian voice, she appeared in major theatre and television roles and more than 70 movies, including All About My Mother.

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1507.509 - 1529.364 Warren Bull

Her role as the actress Uma Rocco was one of her most memorable parts in an Almodovar movie. She also played in Roberto Benigni's Oscar-winning dark wartime comedy Life is Beautiful, which won several Oscars. Marisa Paredes was a true great of Spanish cinema. Her diversity of range and contribution to world cinema was recognised with numerous accolades, including an Honorary Goya Award in 2018.

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1530.885 - 1551.294 Chris Barrow

Warren Ball. It's the busiest time of year for many postal services around the world. Presents need to be delivered, Christmas cards sent, and that's alongside all the usual letters and parcels. In the UK, Royal Mail says mistakes are rare, but they do happen. But one letter which arrived in Wales was delivered almost 17,000 kilometres away from its intended destination.

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1551.874 - 1560.918 Chris Barrow

It arrived in Penarth in South Wales instead of Penrith in New South Wales, Australia. Here's Keith Georgiou, who was a bit confused when it arrived at his house.

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1561.318 - 1580.504 Keith Georgiou

A nice pink envelope and thinking to myself, right, who's that from? Because I've got a birthday coming up and obviously you've got Christmas. And you're looking and then just confused. I mean, it's got Australia and it's got NSW for New South Wales on there. But it didn't say South Wales. I mean, how can anybody...

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1581.364 - 1602.395 Keith Georgiou

from Exeter sorting office, then it's gone to another sorting office, then it gets to Penarth sorting office, and Penarth sorting office go, oh, of course, that's not for Australia, it's for Glebe Street round the corner. Just think about how many hands that went through, and even the postman delivering it on the day put a note on it, made it clear that this is supposed to go to Australia.

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1602.615 - 1603.936 Keith Georgiou

I mean, I shouldn't need to, should I?

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1604.096 - 1625.808 Chris Barrow

And Keith said he did forward that letter onto its intended recipient. We hope it finds its way there before Christmas. And that's all from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News Podcast later on. If you'd like to comment on this podcast, do send us an email. It will arrive, we promise. Our address is globalpodcast at bbc.co.uk.

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1626.248 - 1637.573 Chris Barrow

You can also find us on X. We're at Global News Pod. This edition was mixed by Stephen Bailey and the producer was David Lewis. Our editor is Karen Martin. I'm Chris Barrow. And until next time, thanks for listening. Goodbye.

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1647.679 - 1662.055 Host of World of Secrets

Yoga is more than just exercise. It's the spiritual practice that millions swear by. And in 2017, Miranda, a university tutor from London, joins a yoga school that promises profound transformation.

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1662.075 - 1668.562 Miranda

It felt a really safe and welcoming space. After the yoga classes, I felt amazing.

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1669.082 - 1681.451 Host of World of Secrets

But soon, that calm, welcoming atmosphere leads to something far darker, a journey that leads to allegations of grooming, trafficking and exploitation across international borders.

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1682.552 - 1687.115 Miranda

I don't have my passport, I don't have my phone, I don't have my bank cards, I have nothing.

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1687.135 - 1692.598 Friend of Miranda

The passport being taken, the being in a house and not feeling like they can leave.

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1693.439 - 1711.941 Host of World of Secrets

World of Secrets is where untold stories are unveiled and hidden realities are exposed. In this new series, we're confronting the dark side of the wellness industry with a hope of a spiritual breakthrough gives way to disturbing accusations. You just get sucked in so gradually.

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1713.143 - 1741.287 Miranda

And it's done so skillfully that you don't realize. And it's like this, the secret that's there. I wanted to believe that, you know, that. Whatever they were doing, even if it seemed gross to me, was for some spiritual reason that I couldn't yet understand. Revealing the hidden secrets of a global yoga network. I feel that I have no other choice.

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1741.507 - 1771.177 Miranda

The only thing I can do is to speak about this and to put my reputation and everything else on the line. I want truth and justice. and for other people to not be hurt, for things to be different in the future. To bring it into the light and almost alchemise some of that evil stuff that went on and take back the power.

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1773.819 - 1779.285 Host of World of Secrets

World of Secrets, Season 6, The Bad Guru. Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

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