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Anti-Trump protests in all 50 US states

Sat, 05 Apr 2025

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Protesters across the US have taken to the streets in a show of defiance against Donald Trump’s policies. Also: what’s so compelling about jazz, and is British English slang being adopted across the Atlantic?

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Chapter 1: What sparked the anti-Trump protests across the US?

Chapter 2: Who is Markus Persson and why is he significant?

38.641 - 47.308 Unnamed Survivor 2

Popstars and tech titans, founders and filmmakers, inventors and investors, we cover them all. And for the first time, we're talking about a video game designer.

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47.469 - 55.295 Unnamed Speaker 1

Yep, we're talking about Markus Persson, the Swedish coding king who programmed the world's most successful game, Minecraft, all by himself.

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55.335 - 62.761 Unnamed Survivor 2

He made a billion, but is he good, bad or just another billionaire? Find out on Good Bad Billionaire, listen on the BBC app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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65.211 - 121.127 BBC Reporter

You're listening to the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. Also in the podcast... We remember the Malian musician Amadou Bagayoko, who's died at the age of 70. In contrast to his first term in office, President Trump has faced relatively little opposition since he was sworn in 76 days ago.

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121.207 - 138.932 BBC Reporter

Republicans, many Democrats, tech giants, universities and even law firms have been accused of caving in to his demands. The only real challenge has come from a handful of judges. But on Saturday, tens of thousands of people took to the streets across America to voice their anger at the way the country is heading.

139.838 - 149.603 Protest Chant Leader

Donald Trump, you liar! We set your ass on fire!

149.723 - 166.211 BBC Reporter

The so-called hands-off events were organised in every congressional district, with protesters criticising the doge cuts, Donald Trump's economic policy and what some see as a slide towards authoritarianism. These protesters are among those concerned that America's democracy is at risk.

166.596 - 176.36 Protester

Der Stockmarkt fängt an zu crashen, die Wirtschaft fängt an zu crashen, es fängt bereits an zu crashen und es geht um Trump. Seine Aktionen, seine Blödsinnigkeit, seine Fehler.

176.4 - 190.847 Protester

Eines meiner größten Sorgen ist, wie viel Unwissenheit sie im Publikum verbreiten, dass die Basis-Science und die Basis-Fakten, auf die unsere Demokratie abhängt, zerbrochen werden. Und wenn das passiert, werden die Menschen verletzt.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of Trump's economic policies?

191.744 - 205.712 BBC Reporter

For his part, President Trump took to social media to call on Americans to hang tough in the face of the turmoil caused by his sweeping import tariffs. And he still has plenty of support from the likes of Brian Panabeka, a retired autoworker from Michigan.

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205.752 - 233.146 Brian Panabeka

We've endured this pain in the United States for 30 or 40 years of seeing our factories close. So we can certainly endure two or three years of economic pain while the supply chains are reorganized and the companies move their production lines back to the United States. I couldn't give a rat's rear end about the stock markets. I personally believe they were overvalued and correction was in order.

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233.246 - 237.248 BBC Reporter

Our North America correspondent Peter Bose followed the day's developments from Washington.

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237.714 - 248.562 Peter Bowes

These protests were widespread, more than a thousand individual demonstrations across the country. That is significant, the biggest single day of protests since Donald Trump returned to the White House.

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248.602 - 262.812 Peter Bowes

Perhaps surprising to some that it's taken so long, given this country is still so polarized in terms of the nature of politics here, so long that it's taken for large groups of people to get together and take to the streets to express their anger in this way.

263.172 - 282.776 Peter Bowes

But they were protesting about many different policies, the executive orders, the widespread sacking of federal workers, the breaking up of the Department of Education and more. And I think today was simply an opportunity to vent about all of that, as well as the president's most recently and of course arguably biggest bombshell since he took office.

282.836 - 287.857 Peter Bowes

And that is the sweeping tariffs that have been brought in on the import of goods into the US.

288.148 - 297.943 BBC Reporter

Yeah, I mean, might the protests herald a change in terms of the challenge being posed to Donald Trump? Might some democratic politicians, for example, speak out more now?

298.291 - 319.147 Peter Bowes

Certainly there's been some criticism of Democrats that up until now they seem to have been relatively quiet in terms of criticism of Donald Trump. Vielen Dank.

Chapter 4: How does Cambodia's trade policy relate to US tariffs?

362.777 - 379.074 Peter Bowes

Er hat angeboten, dass die Menschen ruhig bleiben, aber auch angeboten, dass es in den kommenden Monaten ein bisschen schwer wird. Er spricht über den kurzfristigen Einfluss dieser Tarife. Erinnere dich, dass dies eine Medium- bis Langzeitstrategie ist. Er erwartet, dass das Land die Rewarden der Tarife erzielt.

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379.714 - 401.609 Peter Bowes

over the long term when companies, presumably if it goes as he wants to, start building factories here and creating jobs and improving local infrastructure. And I think the fact that it isn't going to happen overnight may well give the Democrats an opportunity because their next electoral opportunity will be the midterm elections at the end of next year. And time moves quickly.

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401.869 - 434.368 Peter Bowes

Aber momentan sind die Tarife keine Probleme für normale Amerikaner? Those problems will start pretty soon. Just as soon as those goods that tariffs are charged on, let's say everyday goods, and there's a fast circulation of those goods that come into stores, people buy them. That will start in the next days or indeed weeks. And people will begin to notice that their bills are getting higher.

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434.408 - 447.991 Peter Bowes

And clearly that is going to influence the attitude of many. It's not every day that you buy a car, but people will be thinking maybe in the next year or two that they have to replace their car and suddenly realize it's going to cost more. Peter Bowes in Washington.

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448.011 - 449.892 BBC Reporter

Our Asia-Pacific Editor is Celia Hatton.

470.715 - 491.686 Celia Hatton

Cambodia's Prime Minister, Hunma Knight, has appealed to Donald Trump and the Trump administration, saying to them, look, we have decided to lift our own tariffs that we had on U.S. goods. Cambodia was charging 35% import taxes on all U.S. goods entering the country. They've changed that to just 5%.

492.827 - 513.561 Celia Hatton

Und sie hoffen, dass die Amerikaner sich darauf aufmerksam machen und dann ihre eigenen Tarife öffnen, die sie auf Cambodian-Gut eingeführt haben, die in die Vereinigten Staaten eingeführt wurden. Es ist ein bisschen ein Wettbewerb, weil es definitiv einen Handelsunfall gibt. Letztes Jahr sahen wir 10 Billionen Dollar in Exporten aus Cambodien, die in die Vereinigten Staaten gehen.

513.601 - 518.805 Celia Hatton

Aber nur 264 Millionen Dollar wert von amerikanischen Gütern wurden in Cambodien importiert.

518.985 - 528.011 BBC Reporter

Yeah, and Donald Trump is acting to tackle that trade imbalance rather than actual tariffs. So, do you know how the US is likely to react to this?

Chapter 5: What controversy surrounds Israel's actions in Gaza?

587.5 - 611.983 Celia Hatton

Genau. Wenn du in den USA eine Schuhstelle oder eine Kleidungsstelle besuchst, dann wirst du bemerken, dass viele Sachen in Kambodschi oder Kambodschis Nachbarn hergestellt werden. Vietnam, Laos zum Beispiel. Das ist, weil viele dieser Länder niedrige Werte haben. Und viele chinesische Verkäufer und Verkäuferinnen haben versucht, einige ihrer Verkaufslinien

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612.863 - 637.969 Celia Hatton

zu diesen Low-Wage-Könnern, weil sie mit Tarifen getarget worden sind. Also Unternehmen wie Nike, Adidas, viele ihrer Produkte werden in Kambodscha hergestellt, weil kambodschische Frauen spezifisch in diesen riesigen Fabriken arbeiten. Sie verdienen etwa 200 Dollar pro Monat. Sie arbeiten sehr, sehr lange Stunden, aber es sind primär kambodsche Frauen, die den Preis zahlen werden.

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638.049 - 648.853 Celia Hatton

It's believed that Donald Trump is not just trying to target China with high tariffs. He's also trying to go after Chinese manufacturing lines that have diverted to these Southeast Asian countries.

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652.523 - 672.657 BBC Reporter

Israel has admitted giving an inaccurate account of the killing of 15 emergency workers in Gaza after a video emerged undermining its claims. The convoy of Palestinian Red Crescent ambulances, a UN car and a fire truck from Gazas civil defense came under fire near Rafah just before dawn on the 23rd of March.

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672.697 - 703.304 BBC Reporter

Israel originally claimed troops opened fire because the convoy approached suspiciously in darkness without headlights or flashing lights. But the video showed ambulances and the fire truck with their emergency lights clearly flashing before coming under heavy gunfire. Well, the video was published by the New York Times. Its reporter is Farnas Fassihi.

704.048 - 727.164 Farnaz Fassihi

For the seven minute duration, all you hear is nonstop gunfire and you hear an exchange in Hebrew and Arabic between the IDF soldiers and the paramedics. So we know that the paramedics were alive. They engaged or exchanged words with the IDF. And several days later, they were found in a mass grave with multiple bullet shots.

727.224 - 751.512 Farnaz Fassihi

And the forensic doctor who examined the bodies told me that most of them appeared to have been shot. We had multiple verification layers before determining that this was an authentic video and that, as you pointed out, it refutes Israel's claim that the ambulances had their lights off or that they were approaching suspiciously.

751.752 - 778.966 Farnaz Fassihi

It also shows that even if that were the case, which it wasn't according to the video, the paramedics exited their cars. They talked to the IDF. They were alive. The UN, many other countries, Security Council members have called for an independent investigation. The IDF statement today said they're going to investigate what happened. Volker Twerk, who's the Human Rights Commissioner at the UN,

779.226 - 801.985 Farnaz Fassihi

Er hat gesagt, dass dieser Verbrechen Fragen und Fragen über Kriegskriege, die der israelischen Militär durchgeführt werden. Es gab also eine starke Verurteilung und Anrufe auf Investitionen. Wir werden sehen, wo das hinführt, weil die Geneva-Konventionen die Arbeiter und die humanitären Arbeiter und Ambulanzen schützen. Auch in Konfliktzonen gibt es Regeln.

Chapter 6: Who was Amadou Bagayoko and what was his impact on music?

873.151 - 874.015 Unknown Speaker

Untertitelung des ZDF, 2020

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884.386 - 900.93 Music

You know, it's a huge loss. And I've been speaking to several friends who live in Mali, are Malian and are Malian musicians. And they are very sad. It was totally unexpected. He hadn't been well for a few days and then he suddenly left the world.

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901.01 - 928.293 Music

And they said that of all the people that they can think of, the great musicians of Mali, which has had so many famous musicians, he and his wife Mariam are the only ones who no one ever criticised. They were impeccable in their behavior. They were delightful. They were charming. They set a great example. They were very loving with each other. And it's a great loss, because they were so iconic.

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928.333 - 933.096 Unknown Speaker

Wir wollen eine große Feier in Bali.

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944.411 - 964.767 Music

Wenn man blind ist in Mali, besonders in der Zeit, in der sie aufgewachsen waren, war es sehr, sehr schwierig. Es war sehr schwer für sie, eigentlich zu verheiratet zu werden. Es gab viel Opposition zu ihrem Verheirat, weil sie beide blind waren. Und das sind Dinge, die beide mir in vielen langen Interviews, die ich mit ihnen gemacht habe, gesagt haben.

964.847 - 973.194 Music

Und ich habe sie erst in 1992 in Mali kennengelernt, als sie anstrengend waren, um irgendwelche Rekordings zu bekommen. Ihr erstes Rekordings waren Kassetten.

973.892 - 993.778 Music

They had a very hard time in the beginning and it was really with the singer and composer and activist and music producer Manu Chao, who is Spanish but lives in France, that they recorded this album Dimanche à Bamako, Sundays in Bamako, which are the great days of wedding celebrations on the street.

993.838 - 1033.014 Music

You can just walk down the streets of Bamako on a Sunday and there are canopies everywhere with giant loudspeakers and this wonderful music blaring out. So they celebrated that in their song Dimash Abba Makal, which I think was recorded in 2004. And then after that they became the iconic couple from Mali at a time when Malian music was really like the main kind of so-called world music.

1033.841 - 1050.516 Music

Everyone loved their music. It was very simple, very strong, very good lyrics. Lyrics of advice about being good neighbors, about not lying, about not betraying and about love. Love, that was such an important topic.

Chapter 7: Why is jazz compelling according to Branford Marsalis?

1150.952 - 1155.875 BBC Reporter

Sophie Grigg of the charity Survival International told Julian Marshall what happened.

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1156.465 - 1177.303 Sophie Grigg

A US citizen was seen by fishermen landing on the shore, having gone to North Sentinel Island, the home of the uncontacted Sentinelese people. And his boat and equipment, including the GoPro video, were seized. And on there, there was evidence that he had gone to North Sentinel Island. Er hat ca.

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1177.463 - 1195.943 Sophie Grigg

eine Stunde auf dem Boot aufs Lande geblieben, ein Witzel geblieben, um die Aufmerksamkeit der Sentinelisen zu attackieren und dann tatsächlich unglaublich gefährlich, sowohl für sich selbst als auch für die Sentinelisen, die keine Immunität zu Krankheiten haben und einfach von jedem Kontakt mit diesem Mann ausgeworfen werden können. Hatte es so eine Verbrechung vorher gegeben?

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1216.51 - 1236.285 Sophie Grigg

Well, there was an incident in 2018 of an American missionary, John Allen Chow, who went to try and convert the Sentinelese. And they fired a warning arrow at him first to tell him to stay away. And when he ignored that and went back, he was killed. So the Sentinelese have made it absolutely clear that they don't want Ja, genau.

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1259.098 - 1267.439 Julian Marshall

You referred to this US National having a YouTube channel. So the fear obviously is that there is more of this to come.

1268.046 - 1282.195 Sophie Grigg

Ja, und wir haben andere YouTuber gesehen, die sagen, dass sie versuchen, nach Nordzentralasien zu gehen und versuchen, die Sentinelese zu kontaktieren. Und offensichtlich ist das ein riesiger Wunsch. Es gibt bereits so viele Threaten an unkontaktierte Menschen. Logging, Mining.

1282.275 - 1291.841 Sophie Grigg

In Great Nicobar gibt es den Risiko, dass die unkontaktierten Schompener Menschen, weil die indianische Regierung versucht, dort einen riesigen Megaport zu bauen. Also gibt es bereits genug Risiken.

1291.901 - 1293.002 Julian Marshall

Ich meine, wie zerstörst du sie?

1293.613 - 1321.567 Sophie Grigg

So what sort of penalties does this trespasser face? The Andaman police are saying it could be up to eight years in prison. There was a court hearing today and they've not given him bail. He's been remanded in police custody for another 14 days. So it could be up to eight years.

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