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Pioneering podcasting, interviewing Neil Young, Springsteen, and Robin Williams, and doing a scene alongside Robert De Niro with Marc Maron. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Why is Marc Maron considered a podcast pioneer?

0.169 - 20.76 David Spade

Okay. We've got, uh, Mark Marin, Dana, who I see a lot of the comedy store comedian, obviously a huge podcaster, one of the OG podcasters that had always, you could always hear he's still going with it, but you know, it was all the big names, all the interesting stuff. Um, and I see him do stand up all the time and I run into him a lot. He's a good dude.

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21.38 - 46.749 Dana Carvey

And, uh, we talked, we were just curious about like, cause he and Rogan on a few others kind of started in like, Oh nine, Oh eight, Oh nine or podcasting when it was just like a caveman with no audience and who would do that. And then it grew to this behemoth. And I, I, he, he got president Barack Obama on his podcast and to do his podcast, you had to drive way up in the middle of nowhere.

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46.769 - 61.016 Dana Carvey

And, uh, In the middle of LA. And so that was a big thing. So we do talk about his journey. It wasn't easy all the time. The podcast kind of saved him. And he created... I think he's done 1,600 episodes.

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61.036 - 63.197 David Spade

He has a lot of stories. And he's very...

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63.977 - 85.823 Dana Carvey

self-winding watch like we didn't have to prompt too much he really had a lot of great things to talk about so yeah i was into it and that blew that that hour blew by so it went by fast he is he knows he knows how to podcast he really told some good stories funny and uh it was it was interesting i i would keep listening yeah so check them out here's mark maron

91.57 - 94.716 David Spade

Yeah. All these glasses. I got other choices. I got better ones.

94.836 - 98.643 Dana Carvey

Are you in the same house? You're in the same... You have not moved.

99.204 - 108.887 Marc Maron

Since you did it? Because it looks familiar. This is a different house, but the stuff behind me probably looks familiar because all the stuff from that original garage is in this room.

109.067 - 112.83 Dana Carvey

Are you in the same neighborhood? You don't have to tell us your actual address.

Chapter 2: How did Marc Maron land a podcast interview with Barack Obama?

216.613 - 221.574 Marc Maron

Yeah. Rich Voss was right after Obama. That was tough to get him out. Yeah. It gets hard sometimes.

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221.814 - 225.215 David Spade

Was it a ratings drop so much you pulled a muscle?

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226.746 - 245.259 Marc Maron

We just thought it was appropriate to continue what we were doing. We did one episode where me and my producer discussed the day of having Obama on the podcast, and we went right to Rich. And Rich is going to pull what he's going to pull. It's somewhere lower middle. It's okay.

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245.639 - 252.204 David Spade

Well, Rich, it's no offense to him. I was just laughing. Whoever has to follow Obama is just going to be a tough sled. That's right.

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252.624 - 258.426 Marc Maron

I don't know if he... I don't know if he thought about it like that. Rich is a good guy. I don't think he gives a shit.

265.108 - 265.088 Dana Carvey

2009.

265.328 - 266.988 Dana Carvey

I guess.

267.008 - 292.361 Marc Maron

It was really like Carolla was there. Rogan, I don't think started at the same. I think Rogan started a little after us. But like Jimmy Pardo was there. Benson was probably there. Maybe Hardwick was like starting out. But I think Rogan started a little after me. But there was like four or five guys collectively not making money doing podcasts. You know, Todd Gloss is good at not making money.

292.381 - 295.103 David Spade

And I think he had one early. He's a good friend of mine.

Chapter 3: What challenges did Marc Maron face in the early days of podcasting?

449.802 - 453.304 Marc Maron

Hold on. I'm watching my cat throw up. Don't eat plastic.

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453.624 - 457.085 David Spade

Did you have a urethra moment? I did when I peed last night.

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457.145 - 462.588 Dana Carvey

I'm checking celebrity net worth. Okay. Anyway, so... I don't even know if that's right.

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462.668 - 476.103 Marc Maron

Well... No, I'm kidding. I didn't check. What happened was... There was, like, at the beginning, you either had, if you were going to put up a paywall, you couldn't get new audience, right? So we had done a radio show.

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476.123 - 476.984 David Spade

A goodbye wall.

477.604 - 501.883 Marc Maron

Yeah, goodbye wall. No one welcome. Right. Let's put up a goodbye wall on ours, Dan. You can do it. Well, that was before the, what is it called? What's that thing everyone does where they can get a pay page? Pantheon or what is it? Oh, Raytheon. We all don't know. You know that. I know what you mean. Patreon. Patreon.

503.104 - 526.876 Marc Maron

yeah so what we did was we had like two advertisers from the old radio days it was sex toys it was like adam and eve sex toys and we had crazy eddie's electronics that kind of thing but then we had the coffee sponsor but there was there was really no way to to to make money and except for the old school radio way and then ultimately we started working with old-timey radio ad people.

527.296 - 550.241 Marc Maron

And then Jeff Ulrich and Scott Aukerman put Midroll together and the Earwolf Network. And that created a platform to get advertisers into specifically podcasting. So everyone sort of came up together, but it wasn't until I guess, hey, Charlie, get away from the plastic. Charlie, I'm going to throw you out, stupid. So that's how you talk to a cat, by the way.

550.622 - 551.722 David Spade

Is that your tech? Yeah.

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