Digital Social Hour
Memes, Money & Influence: The Secret Formula | Jack Jay DSH #1156
Sun, 02 Feb 2025
Discover the ultimate secret formula behind memes, money, and influence in this mind-opening episode of the Digital Social Hour! Join host Sean Kelly and special guest Jack Jay as they explore the power of memes, the rise of AI, and the deeper meaning of life itself. From "enlightened capitalism" to the transformative effects of psychedelics, Jack shares his unique insights and groundbreaking ideas you won’t hear anywhere else. Packed with valuable insights, this conversation dives into how AI is shaping our world, the future of education, and even the potential for a meme-driven religion. Plus, Jack reveals his innovative use of Giphy to control the meme universe and how billionaires are tapping into psychedelics for creativity and personal growth. Don’t miss out on this captivating discussion that will challenge your perspective and empower you to think outside the box. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. Hit that subscribe button and stay tuned for more eye-opening stories on the Digital Social Hour with Sean Kelly! #spiritualempowermentaltar #spiritualempowermentkawuku #socialimpact #spiritualempowerment #joerogan #socialimpact #ai #artificialintelligence #socialchange #machinelearning CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:39 - Jack's Story 02:29 - Religion & Spirituality 06:26 - Psychedelics and Consciousness 09:32 - Finding Meaning in Life 12:06 - Impact of AI on Education 14:25 - Monetizing Memes Online 16:25 - TikTok's Influence on Generations 21:00 - Strategies to Save the World 22:24 - Solutions to Fix Global Issues 24:06 - AI's Impact on Humanity 25:57 - Opposition to Neuralink Technology 30:26 - Critique of Video Games 32:11 - Awakening to AI Realities 32:54 - Analyzing "Don't Look Up": AI Themes APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: jenna@digitalsocialhour.com GUEST: Jack Jay https://www.instagram.com/jackjay.io SPONSORS: Specialized Recruiting Group: https://www.srgpros.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/
Chapter 1: What is Jack Jay's story and philosophy?
All right, welcome back to the Digital Social Hour. I'm your host, Sean Kelly, here with a great guest today, Jack J. Thank you for having me. How's it going, man? So beautiful time. Grateful to be here. Grateful to be alive. Yes, you're pretty low key. So I'm going to need you to tell people your story.
It's an ever evolving story. Can kind of sum it up with never had a job, just been building stuff since the beginning and always thinking deeply about why I'm here, what's the meaning of life, really driven to think about life as a video game and then thinking about how can I really play it well? How can I become someone who all respect
A thousand years in the future, if I'm able to live that long. So you want to hit a thousand? I want to live indefinitely, I like to say. Immortality? Indefinitely. I think immortality is actually more scary to have to live permanently. But I definitely want optionality and I definitely want... to alleviate a lot of the suffering that comes from just genetic diseases for people.
And so that falls in line with my egoic desire to want to live longer as well.
So even if your physical body decayed, you would want to still live or would you want to transfer your soul to another body?
That scares me a little bit in terms of the transfer. I'm unsure. We don't really know all about consciousness. I think that's something we're just starting to explore. We looked towards space through the 60s. Now we're really starting to look internally and study ourselves, which is...
very very interesting i'm not sure about the soul transfer or consciousness transfer i'd like just to maintain the health of my body for sure right i do think we're programmed to die evolutionarily this was a effective model to continue getting gene mutation forward to allow us to be more adaptive to an environment
100%.
I mean, 100% on the decline. I like to think about it like this. I have an interesting take on this front. Basically, the internet was a big push of a decrease of people's faiths. Where people used to be zealots on certain topics, I think they're more like sports fans now, where they're like, I grew up this, I believe this, I identify as this.
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Chapter 2: How do psychedelics influence personal growth?
You may put it down on the card, but people are really not the same in terms of what they're asked to do is be full preachers, full devotion. I think that has good values, but the bad value side and why some people are moving away from it is because also each one of these religions for the most part is claiming we are the only true religion. And I think people are consciously aware that, hey,
This was just passed down to me from a familial aspect. It's not like I had a coming to with God specifically here. I don't believe that my friend who's of a different religion is wrong. I don't think mine's right. I think we have different pathways to get to the same truth. And so I think to some degree, the internet was a connective nature of what you could call our global brain.
say we're all neurons, we're all sharing information like axons and dendrites in a brain. The internet changed the speed of our brain from a horse to the speed of light. Now we're interconnected at sharing information at such a fast rate, it made us have to face these truths and come together online and realize that no one truly has the truth.
If there was one true truth, the internet connecting everyone, we would have seen a ton of people moving towards one certain religion. And really instead it was more, well, faith is good. These values are good, but it's just good that we have those good values and we stick to that core.
So the global brain almost realized, hey, I have so many different belief systems and there's no belief system of the internet today. I do think that will emerge. I do think that will be a positive emergence. I do think it will be an open-minded one. If you're familiar with like the term metafiction, No, I'm not.
A metafiction is basically a story which claims to be false but represents itself as true. Okay. And so it's meta.
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Chapter 3: How does AI influence education and the future?
I think there was a connection with the idea that everything was gonna go away. And that led me to this idea that this is meaningless. And I think what psychedelics did was it showed me that I don't know shit, that it is like somewhat egotistical for me to claim that there's no meaning. And then farther than that, look at all these amazing people who have given you so much love.
What can you just do for them? This is an opportunity. This is an opportunity to be there and to become someone great for your family, for your community, and then even farther than that, for the world. Like if you really focus on living an amazing life path, imagine how much you can do. Do you not want to do that? That was sort of the new mindset it gave me.
It broke down these barriers and that was beautiful.
I love that. I went through that phase too where I didn't think there was a meaning to life. I wonder how many people actually experienced that. So have you found your meaning? Yes.
I think in general, it's to empower as many other people as possible. I like this term that I call enlightened capitalism. And I think this is something which will actually become more of a truth over time. is that the only eternal currency is, let's say good karma is one of the best ways to represent the empowerment of others.
And it's really just the idea, I mean, artificial intelligence talk is obviously heating up. It's amazing just to watch and use GPT-4 and all these other things and be like, wow, yeah, I mean, this intelligence is rapidly, rapidly increasing. And even Elon Musk has gone on record and said, in 20 years, we won't be able to really, like, see reality the same way. It's going to be so different.
He fully believes that. There's lots of people online who believe this, which is why there's like billions of dollars pouring into an AI safety field. There's...
you know factions forming online one who's saying effective accelerationism we need to accelerate this is going to help save the world and then there's the deceleration people who are like stop this this might destroy us terminator skynet level right speaking of ai how do you think ai will shape the public education system
It's super interesting already to see how many schools are treating different policies with ChatGBT.
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Chapter 4: How are memes monetized online?
Right. And you also gave up a D1 football offer because you wanted to protect your brain, right? You did your research. I did. Why did you decide to go that route? Because that could have been a whole different life path for you.
100%. Definitely interesting to think about, but I knew that I wanted to build things. I knew that I wanted to make companies and I knew that my brain to that degree was the most valuable resource. So I love the camaraderie that comes from football. I love the idea of just being on a team and having a direct life path. And that was very direct. It was very solid.
My coach was very upset for me saying no, of course, but I knew that there was so much more potential and compound interest in just learning to create things, learning to innovate. And that's why I took that path and I'm happy I did.
Yeah. One of the things you specialize in is memes. How are you able to use memes to make money?
So a recent thing that I had one of my teams figure out was on Giphy, if you're familiar with Giphy itself. So they service Telegram, iMessage, Discord, all of the dating apps like Bumble, Tinder, just wherever you see a GIF keyboard, the Instagram stickers, the TikTok stickers, even Instagram comments now, that's all funneling from Giphy. Wow.
And so I've used that for a while and just uploaded it.
the stickers and memes and had my teams make these things because it's cool if you search it up and then i was like well they must have a ranking system as well i'm running seo on google well there must be seo that's possible here and so i just hired a few developers and basically gave them the whole schema and some of the ideas that i had what could potentially be their ranking system and they i
figured it out and that's been pretty effective. We did some work with Lucanets and Pudgy Penguins, helping them get up and get big. We did it for this new AI search engine called u.com. They're getting more views than Google itself now on their gifts of, you know, That one was easy to make a ton of gifts for.
We automated a ton because we just took a list of 10,000 of popular search terms and then put it, typing it into the search asset.
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