Anoushka Mutanda Dougherty weighs up Diddy’s latest bid for bail with lawyer Shaun Kent and Rolling Stone reporter Cheyenne Roundtree.Cheyenne was in court for the hearing and has the lowdown, while Shaun considers what the judge will be thinking as he makes the crucial decision.Accused of kidnapping, drugging, and coercing women into sexual acts, Diddy finds himself behind bars in a notorious New York jail, awaiting trial. He denies all the accusations.We also want YOU to be part of the conversation. Have you any burning questions about the trial? Heard a theory that doesn’t sit right with you? Send us your thoughts!Get in touch now via WhatsApp: 0330 123 555 1The Diddy on Trial podcast is here to investigate the rumours, confront the theories, and give you the answers that you need.Presenter: Anoushka Mutanda Dougherty Producer: Laura Jones Sound Design: Richard Hannaford Editor: Clare FordhamCommissioning Editor: Rhian Roberts Assistant Commissioner: Will Drysdale Commissioning Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Assistant Producer: Rechmial Miller
Chapter 1: What are the latest allegations against Diddy?
Hello and welcome to the first ever episode of Diddy on Trial from BBC Sounds with me, Anushka Matanda-Dowdy.
We live in a toxic world and it's love versus hate and I choose love and love wins. Love wins!
has emerged of the rapper Sean Diddy Combs physically assaulting his then-girlfriend, Cassie Ventura.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of Cassie's lawsuit?
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He has a lot of parties. We've established that. A lot of things happen at these parties. In the jacuzzi with the strippers, one of the strippers' hair got caught on fire.
And I'm not alone. We have expert journalists, lawyers, hip-hop heads, industry insiders, and people who are up close and personal with the man himself. So the thing with these cases is where do you begin? Because they are making headlines every single day. And unless your day job is documenting the Didiverse, it can be quite confusing.
But luckily for us, we have Cheyenne Roundtree with us, a senior investigative journalist with Rolling Stone magazine. And Cheyenne, this is your day job.
Yeah, for the past year, kind of, it's been all about Didi and covering as these allegations unfold.
And you did a big investigation into him. How did that come about and what were you investigating?
Yeah, so over the summer, Rolling Stone and my colleague Nancy Dillon, we published a six-month investigation into Diddy. It kind of started after Cassie dropped her lawsuit. There just seemed to be so much under the surface of what that initial lawsuit kind of laid out. And what we uncovered was a pattern of violent behavior going back to Diddy's days in college.
So this doesn't seem to be an isolated incident with Cassie, but just a through history of a violent behavior towards women and people in his inner circle.
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Chapter 3: What are the details from the recent bail hearing?
I'm like, did I just say baby oil? Wait, that just said baby oil. And then I just made a quick story, not thinking anything about it. And after making it, it just blew up. Because I think for a lot of people, we have to demystify the criminal procedure because it is exciting. But there still is a procedure that we go through.
And I said, let me just try to explain not the sensational aspects, but the legal aspects of what's actually going on. And it's just taken off.
Cheyenne, you were there on Friday for the bail hearing. What happened and how was he?
It's a packed courtroom. I would say almost every row is filled and there's back rows as well. And people had to go to overflow room. His entire family was there, his mother, his adult sons, his daughters. They all filed in right before Diddy was actually brought into court. And he is looking very thin and kind of surprisingly thin. He's in his beige kind of jail jumpsuit. And he came in.
He was in a really good mood. He was smiling. He hugged his lawyers. He waved to his children. And this was the second time in court that week he had been there earlier on Tuesday. And he was in a really good mood. And he didn't say too much. He whispered a lot with his attorneys as he does. He took a couple notes sometimes.
And I think at one point he corrected one of his attorneys that misspoke and said court instead of room. That was the only time he actually spoke up in court. But it was a long proceeding. It was two hours. And at the end, he was led away by officials and he waved goodbye to his children who were like kind of just standing waiting to kind of maybe get a word in and say hi to them.
And how were the family reacting?
My birthday, I'm happy.
Thank you y'all for giving me this call. Thank you very much. I love y'all. We love you all too.
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Chapter 4: How did Diddy behave during the court proceedings?
But there were some things that the judge threw out immediately, a proposal for him to spend time on a private island.
yeah so diddy's main house right now is a compound out of miami it's called star island so it's a private island and it has a loading dock for his boat i mean it's this massive kind of compound and the judge immediately was like uh if you get released you have to stay a little bit more local and so he has proposed to say on the upper east side in a three bedroom apartment with around the clock private security
two agents in the house or two firm members in his apartment at all times monitoring him.
Don't forget, he still is innocent. I know we have heard all of these awful allegations against him, but he still is innocent. And our Constitution is very strong on the presumption of innocent until proven guilty. And what people mistake is the Constitution actually says it suggests that
you should get a bond and you should get a personal recognizance bond, which means you're supposed to be allowed out on your own recognizance because we don't want a system in which the government can come and just lock everybody up and say, ha ha, you stay in there because you'd have a system in which our leaders could go after their political rivals, their criminal rivals, and just lock people up.
And so we created a system that says everybody is presumed to get a bond unless you are a danger to the community and a risk of flight. And that's what I think the government has done a really good job of. But what they have shown is since he's been incarcerated, he ain't following the rules.
And they're like, if he's not following the rules while he's in jail, what the heck makes you think he's going to follow the rules if we let him out? And if he's not going to follow the rules while he's out, you put him on Old Star Island, he's beating feet and he's taking off. And that's what the judge said. I'm not putting this dude on an island next to water where he can take off. So...
Risk of flight is the big one. And then the next and the government filings have been replete from examples. And Cheyenne, correct me, I think they went back to like 1990 something talking about his history of violence and the things that he has done over and over and over. And I said, this is a violent human being. Don't let him out.
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Chapter 5: What arguments are being made for Diddy's bail?
Yeah, and to add to that point, yesterday the prosecutors also roped in former employees and said it's not just pertains to alleged victims in this case because his attorney said there's 0% chance of him being violent towards someone.
And prosecutors went a step further and said not only is this pertains to alleged victims, but his employees themselves have been allegedly subjected to being kicked, slapped, objects thrown at, their lives threatened. And so they are trying to broaden the scope of...
who he is a danger to Diddy has come out and he's denied all of this and said that this is not his character he's not the person he's being painted to be and this is destroying his reputation but one thing we do know and we do have proof of is him assaulting Cassie in the hallway of a hotel could that have harmed his ability to get bail?
Well, Diddy's lawyers have said that that video and that Diddy has apologized for it is within the context of a toxic loving relationship. That is how they're explaining that video, that it doesn't tell the whole story there, but it is true. It was a messy relationship. And they're saying that he actually was trying to get his clothes and his cell phone back from Cassie.
And that's what led to that incident. While prosecutors are saying, no, this demonstrates the capacity for violence when a victim was trying to leave a freak off. So we've seen what we've seen. And each side has their own kind of explanation of what that video shows or what it means.
I think it's more damaging to his trial experience. than it is to his bond. I know that sounds weird to say, but I think it is much more damaging to his trial than it is to his bond. People don't like the way it sounds, but that's why the defense is saying he's not a danger to the community.
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Chapter 6: What is the judge's perspective on Diddy's release?
He's a danger to Cassie, you know, and their loving relationship, and they're no longer in that relationship anymore. The danger to the community is him contacting the witnesses, you know, him talking to the witnesses, him intimidating people who are going to testify. Whether you believe the Busby lawsuits or don't believe the Busby lawsuits,
Some folks who come out and say, we feel better coming out and telling our story now that his tail is locked up. And if he is out, we probably wouldn't have told our story. So I think that's a situation that, and I hate, and I'm not knocking the Cassie video whatsoever, But their allegation is, this happened in an awful relationship. This is not a butt-naked baby or a freak-off party.
This is two people who have an awful relationship that it's like a song. You know, don't you hate the way we fight? They're fighting each other. That's their allegation. I don't know if it's strong in public opinion, but for a judge, and that's why the judge is like... It kind of got a point there. I think what hurts more though on that video is the fact that he lied about it.
Let's make that clear. His history of lying about the video, it's not that he came out immediately. Remember, he called Cassie a liar, everything from a son of God, and said, she's a liar, she's a liar, she's a liar. The video came out and he's like, I'm so sorry, I apologize. I think that hurt some more. Here's the best example.
He went into court and said, I won't contact any witnesses, and then contacted witnesses. Now, he may have a legal right to contact witnesses, but if you tell a court I'm not going to do something and then you do it, how can I trust you not to do anything there? If you are going to lie about the simple, how do I know you're not going to lie about the complicated?
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Chapter 7: How is Diddy's history affecting the trial?
That's the problem, and that's the problem his lawyers have with him is they can't control him.
Yeah. Prosecutors say that the word trust came up a lot in the hearing and they just said, we can't trust him. His lawyers can't be trusted to control him. And that's what it boils down to. When you are released on bail, can the court trust you to return? Can they trust you to not obstruct justice or tamper with witnesses?
And prosecutors are really making it clear that the court should not trust him or anything that he says.
I've seen headlines that they've said that the prosecution has shown an edited version of the video that makes it look worse. Is that something that came up on Friday?
The judge said that he doesn't need to see the full video, that he saw enough. We've all seen enough of the video to know the context of it. But the defense team said that there's a full 20 minute unedited raw version footage. And they alluded to a cell phone.
So I don't know where this footage came from, but they said that they had the full thing and they wanted to show the court the full video to better explain the context of the sequence of events, perhaps. But the judge said, I don't really need to see that in court. I have it in my sealed files. So it didn't really come up too much in court.
And obviously, this is all going along in the ecosystem of stuff that's happening to Diddy. We've got the federal indictment and the charges. We've also got the civil cases, of which there are many, and have gone back to being filed almost weekly by Tony Busby. Sean, can you just run us through what the difference is between the federal and the civil cases?
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Chapter 8: What implications does the video evidence have?
Yeah, I mean, the simplest way is the federal cases are about your freedom. The civil cases are about finances and about money. These civil folks feel as though that they were wronged, that they were wronged to the point that they have been psychologically, emotionally, and physically harmed by one person and his cohorts and his employees.
company and his business holdings and we need to be financially taken care of. The worst example I can say is almost like Humpty Dumpty. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall and he fell and you can't put him back together. He's always going to have cracks. These people have said this has been years since this has happened, but the harm that he has done to us has caused such cracks in us.
We want to be financially taken care of.
And Tony Busby has found himself also making headlines outside of just filing the cases. He's now being sued as well. Sham, what's going on there?
An unknown celebrity has preemptively sued Tony Busby and his law firm. claiming that they received a cease or kind of a demand letters as part of these filings. We know that Tony has said there's a lot of other people that were witnesses or were present or maybe even participated in alleged abuse for some of his clients.
And this unknown celebrity has sued Tony and his firm saying that, you know, this is extortion. You are trying to get me to pay up money so my name doesn't come out. So we'll see how that plays out because that was just recently filed this month.
He made the promise on the 1st of October when he did the press release and he stood in front of that 1-800 number. He said, we will be naming other names and he called them the facilitators of foul play.
Willing participants in vile conduct. And I'm talking here about not just the cowardly but complicit bystanders. That is those people that we know watched this behavior occur and did nothing. I'm talking about the people that participated, encouraged it, egged it on. They know who they are.
A lot of people have said it's led to this sort of mad hunt for the Diddy List, the other celebrities who are involved. Why do you think that's going to be so interesting, the extortion case, Sean?
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