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Dateline: True Crime Weekly

A murder suspect's brother under scrutiny. Breakthrough in parents' quest for answers. And should jurors question witnesses?

Thu, 13 Feb 2025

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Three months after the husband of a woman who went missing in Spain is charged with her murder, investigators have questions about his brother, too. Years after a young woman's death in Pennsylvania, her parents persuade local officials to take a second look at how she died. And the judge from the Jason Chen murder trial on why he allows jurors to question witnesses during trial. Find out more about the cases covered each week here: www.datelinetruecrimeweekly.com

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Chapter 1: What new developments are there in the murder case in Spain?

278.829 - 295.262 Alex LeRae

Correct, yeah. So sources tell me that they upgraded the charges because there was proof that Ana had a drastic change of life pattern, meaning to them that she has passed away. Movement on her Google and Spotify accounts abruptly stopped, as did the contact with her family and friends.

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295.703 - 308.213 Sandy Greenberg

And we should say that David has pleaded not guilty. So let's get into the latest development. Who is the other member of David's family who is now in the crosshairs of investigators?

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308.669 - 316.925 Alex LeRae

So we've learned that the Department of Homeland Security has seized the laptop and phone of David's brother, whose name is Ugesa.

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317.225 - 319.57 Sandy Greenberg

How is he wrapped up in this now? What are they alleging?

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319.881 - 341.021 Alex LeRae

They're alleging in a search warrant they filed last month that they're looking at Ugesa Konezovic for aiding and abetting accessory after the fact, wire and bank fraud, and destruction of records. The warrant was unsealed by a judge in Miami last week. What's kind of a surprise is we know that the FBI spoke to him last March, but he said he was estranged from David.

341.741 - 351.55 Alex LeRae

In the warrant, it says he told them he only spoke to David because he found out from Ana's brother that she was missing. Ugesa says that he had to ask his mother for David's phone number.

351.87 - 358.036 Sandy Greenberg

But according to the FBI, David's brother was the first person David called when he was arrested in May, correct?

358.706 - 378.339 Alex LeRae

Right. And the FBI is saying since then, the brothers have been in touch pretty often. The FBI says they have probable cause that his phone and laptop have evidence that Ugesa has pretended to be David to get Apple to lock David's phone so investigators couldn't open it. And then most recently, David's brother flew to Spain on vacation with his family.

379.059 - 398.85 Alex LeRae

Last month, he went to Sevilla, which is about a three and a half hour train trip from Madrid, which is where Ana disappeared. And they say that they don't know where he was for two days in January. So they're investigating what he's been doing electronically, but also maybe physically in an area where Spanish authorities had conducted searches for Ana.

Chapter 2: Who is David Kinesovich and what are the allegations against him?

1174.166 - 1180.648 Sandy Greenberg

The defense also called Eric Thompson's brother, Michael, to give character testimony. What did he have to say about his brother?

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1180.948 - 1184.25 Unknown

So he described Eric as an easygoing guy.

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1184.37 - 1195.598 Unknown

Like I've never seen him yell, swear or no physical anything with Joyce.

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1195.938 - 1199.36 Unknown

That murdering someone would be extremely out of character.

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1199.38 - 1204.877 Unknown

He doesn't let go. that let things affect him very much.

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And then when asked about how his brother Eric behaved around the time of Takahara's murder, he said there really wasn't any change to make note of.

1214.682 - 1218.725 Unknown

He was, I guess, normal. Nothing to have me suspect anything.

1219.15 - 1223.955 Sandy Greenberg

Eric has pleaded not guilty. What can we expect from the trial in the coming days?

1224.435 - 1238.128 Unknown

So in Eric Thompson's first trial, he did take the stand in his defense. So we're waiting to see if he'll do the same this time. And of course, his wife, Joyce, is still by his side and has been there every single day sitting behind him.

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