Keith Morrison and Josh Mankiewicz sit down to talk about Keith’s episode, “The Devil Wore White.” It’s the story of the charismatic and manipulative grifter Sante Kimes and her two sons. One son was able to escape their mother’s grip. The other was not. Kenny Kimes would do anything his mother asked, including murder. Josh and Keith break down the dynamics of the Kimes family and explore what drove Sante and Kenny to kill. Keith shares an extra clip from his interview with Sante’s eldest son, Kent Walker, highlighting what it was like growing up with Sante as a mother. Dateline producer Ann Preisman joins the discussion to help answer viewer and listener questions. Plus, Josh and Keith address those pesky rumors that they don’t get along.Listen to the full episode of "The Devil Wore White" on Apple: https://apple.co/4hitg0mListen to the full episode on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5sF1ger9rJECvnOtoyTdC5
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Hi, everybody. I'm Josh Mankiewicz, and we're talking Dateline today with Keith. Hi, Keith. Oh, hello, Josh. So this episode is called The Devil Wore White, and it's the kind of story that we almost never do at Dateline because it's less about the relationship between killer and victim and almost entirely about the relationship between killer and other killer.
Now, this is the story of a criminal mastermind, someone you might have heard of. Her name is Sante Kahn. She became famous back in the 90s when investigators who were looking for a missing millionaire uncovered a very, very creepy, dark history of crimes and her surprising partner in those crimes and those murders, her youngest son, Kenny. Right.
Now, if you have not listened to this broadcast yet, it is the episode right below this one in the list of podcasts that you chose from. So you can go there. You can listen to it. You can watch it on Peacock. And then when you come back, Keith has an extra clip that he wants to play for more of his interview back in 2001.
with kent walker who was you know sort of the heart and soul of this show in a lot of ways and later we're going to be joined by one of my favorite people and that is dateline producer ann priceman who worked on this broadcast and she will also help answer some of the questions that you may have from social media so stick around for that or stay tuned as we often said in 1961 keith you remember saying stay tuned i remember saying that
I still say stay tuned, Josh.
Yeah. There's no tuner anymore. That's the problem. So let's talk Dateline. So as I said in the intro, this is the kind of story we don't usually do here at Dateline. That is absolutely correct. This is less about killer and victim and more about killer and killer. And it's a crazy, crazy story.
That's exactly what it is. The craziest story ever. And I was there in New York to cover it way back in 98 or whatever the heck it was. Yeah. And when you hear the story of Sante Keim's and her two sons, particularly the youngest one, Kenny, and what they got up to over the years, my goodness, the whole circus of activities that she was involved in was quite extraordinary.
Just a story that I hate to say it, but I really enjoyed living in it again, even though it's really dark in many respects.
It's the kind of story that makes people want to get into journalism. I mean, it's a long, endless, twisting yarn that touches on all different localities, different people, different crimes. I mean, like Sante, her big talent clearly is that she doesn't come off as being as dangerous and as homicidal as she actually was.
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