Andrea Canning sits down with Keith Morrison to talk about his latest episode, “Lori Vallow Daybell: The Jailhouse Interview,” which featured his often combative conversation with one of the most infamous women in America, Lori Vallow Daybell. Convicted of murdering two of her children and conspiring to murder her current husband Chad Daybell’s wife Tammy, Lori is set to go on trial next month for conspiring to murder her fourth husband, Charles Vallow. She has pleaded not guilty and is representing herself at trial. Keith shares a podcast-exclusive clip from the interview in which Lori talks about her love for Chad, and the death of Tammy Daybell. He also answers your questions from social media.Have a question for Talking Dateline? Leave it for us in a DM on social media @DatelineNBC or in a voicemail at (212) 413-5252 for a chance to be featured on a future episode!Listen to the full episode of “Lori Vallow Daybell: The Jailhouse Interview” on Apple: https://apple.co/3FjWD4dListen to the full episode on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Hqr2KbRPjam94oIhGHTU8
Chapter 1: Who are the hosts discussing in this Dateline episode?
Hi, everyone. I'm Andrea Canning, and we are Talking Dateline. Today, I'm joined by Keith Morrison to discuss his latest episode, Lori Vallow Daybell, The Jailhouse Interview. If you haven't seen it, it's the episode right below this one on your Dateline podcast feed. So go there and listen to it or stream it on Peacock and then come on back here.
To recap, Keith brings us the first television interview with one of the most infamous women in America, one whose story he's been covering for the last five years, Lori Vallow Daybell, the woman convicted of murdering two of her children and conspiring to murder her husband's former wife.
As she sits in an Arizona jail cell awaiting yet another murder trial, one in which she'll be representing herself, Keith asks her the hard questions we've all wanted answers to, and Lori doesn't hold back. For this Talking Dateline, we have an extra clip from Keith and Lori's bombshell interview, so stay tuned for that. And with that, I say, okay, let's talk Dateline.
Keith. Hey, how are you? Hey. Hey.
I'm good.
I'm good.
The weather's perking up here.
There you go.
On the East Coast.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of Lori Vallow's jailhouse interview?
Yes. Well, Alex was her angel of death. That was the nickname that people gave him. He's dead now. He died in circumstances which seemed mysterious at the time and eventually were declared natural causes. But he was the one who admitted that he shot Charles Vallow. And he claimed it was self-defense.
The police heard what circumstances they were told by Alex and by Lori and decided, okay, well, I guess it was self-defense. They didn't press charges.
And so it was only later on when the investigation was resumed and the police from Gilbert, Arizona conducted a significant investigation that they realized, okay, they could certainly, they felt prove a case against Lori and that, you know, Alex was her trigger man.
After covering her for so long, what was that like for you, finally sitting across from her?
It was curious. When I saw her come in, I realized, okay, this is going to be a ride because she just presents that way. And she had all the way along, really. I mean, you observe her on videotape from the very beginning. She clearly has an attitude. She clearly stuck to her guns or to whatever she claimed her beliefs were in the whole court process.
And so I was expecting somebody who would be that way. I had prepared a whole long list of things we wanted to talk to her about. And all of that kind of went out the window.
As it often does, right?
As it often does. But for reasons of her behavior, her attitude, and the fact that at the very beginning, she launched into this story. That was going to suggest at the end the idea that it was Tylee who, because she was ill and not feeling well, she suffocated her brother. And then in a fit of remorse killed herself. It was a long buildup to it.
I was, you know, I let her go on longer than I probably should have. At least it felt like that. And then, you know, you just have to get what answers you can, knowing that it's, I mean, she's not ever going to answer a question.
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Chapter 3: Why did Lori Vallow wink at the camera during the interview?
No, just that they love each other and that they see each other. Oh, and she fully expects to be exonerated. She got onto that track pretty quick as soon as we started talking about it.
I don't know about that one. I don't know. She may have some wishful thinking there.
Oh, absolutely. In my opinion, anyway. Yeah.
It's interesting when you look back at Lori when, you know, in the days before all of this and just, you know, pretty, bubbly. I couldn't believe she was on Wheel of Fortune. Sure. And then you look at Lori now.
That was quite something.
The beauty pageant. I mean... This woman, you know, she was poised to have a great life. And then you look at her now and you're like, what? What happened? Yeah, well...
You kind of wonder about where she came from, too. And what surprises me and impresses me, frankly, in this story is Colby. Colby has come out of this so... He's a really impressive guy. And he's trying to break that chain. It's still difficult for him, but he is healing. He uses his... His podcast, I think, or his YouTube is kind of a way of helping him. And it does help, apparently.
Yeah, and he has a family, which is so nice. And I can imagine, given what he's been through, that I don't know him, but that he'll be a great dad. And he'll just work extra hard to make sure those kids have a good life.
There's something called an ACE score, adverse childhood experiences, and that they are a pretty good indicator of what somebody is going to be like later on in life, or at least the sorts of challenges that they will face. And I would think that Colby has a pretty high ACE score, and yet somehow he has come through it.
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