When Rob Limon is murdered, the investigation uncovers secrets about sex, friendship, and religion. Josh Mankiewicz explores the twisted case featured in Dateline’s #1 podcast, Deadly Mirage. Listen to the 6-part original series on Apple: https://apple.co/44RBkSrListen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/65S0Rf8pYQwVJzAeWDEkry Josh Mankiewicz and Blayne Alexander go behind the scenes of the making of this episode in ‘Talking Dateline’ Listen on Apple: https://apple.co/4dOIXLYListen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6nDLsYj1LwZIeDTz91WuRV?si=awB4e_qVTeiOIbxMJT12-g
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
Tonight on Dateline.
The Wolf Pack is our group of friends in Silver Lakes. They called each other Bear and Pooter.
Chapter 2: Who were the key players in Rob Lamone's life?
I started thinking, who would want Rob out of the picture? This case had sex, religion. It literally had everything. The story of an it couple behind Dateline's hit podcast. Sabrina and Rob had invited another married couple into their group for an open relationship. She couldn't stay away from him. Good morning, my lover. Well, good morning. They talked about God. God is so good.
Yeah, God is so good.
Chapter 3: What secrets were uncovered after Rob's murder?
Did you and Ms. Lamone and her husband and your husband engage in sexual activity together? That was the bombshell of all bombshells. No one could look away. You just couldn't look away.
Was someone doing God's work or the devil's? I'm Lester Holt, and this is Dateline. Here's Josh Mankiewicz with Deadly Mirage.
Trackless, dry, and desolate, the Mojave Desert fits almost no one's image of the California lifestyle. Unless, that is, you stumble upon this little oasis, Silver Lakes, a community of 6,000, improbably built in the desert, on the water. The lakes are artificial, of course. The houses look solid enough, stucco and red tile, along with churches, a golf course, and parks for the kids.
Wholesome Anywhere Main Street, USA. But what if that's a mirage, too? Turns out, behind some of these doors, there are secrets about religion, about friendship, about sex, and about murder. Rob and Sabrina Limon were just one of those magical couples.
You wanted to invite them to every barbecue you had and you wanted to make it to every barbecue or every time they were going to go out on the lake. And they attracted people around them like that. Friends Kelly and Jason Bernatine told me the Limons were irresistible. They had two beautiful kids and a great family, and just always happy. Aw, that's so sweet. How'd they get along with each other?
Oh, gosh. They never fought. They were like, they called each other bear and pooter and hugs and kisses and high fives all the time. Just happy, happy, happy. Their happiness was all the sweeter because Rob's own parents had split up when he was a child. Rob's older sister, Chris Wilson.
Divorce is hard on kids, and it was hard on my brother. Mom worked a lot of nights, you know, being a single mom. So I would take care of Robert. After graduating high school, Rob lived with Chris here in Prescott, Arizona. It's where he met Sabrina. Just about everyone called her Brina. He brought her to our home and introduced us, and he said, I think I'm going to marry her.
Chris could tell this was serious. She loved my brother, and I could tell she did. Rob adored both Sabrina and her family, says Lydia Marrero, another of Rob's sisters. They were very warm and welcoming, and they did things together, and that's what he wanted for himself and his family.
Rob and Sabrina married in a beautiful church wedding on August 19, 2000. Rob thought about becoming a firefighter, then landed a job as a mechanic for a railroad company. He loved his job. Just like everything he did, he put 110% into it. He'd always take pictures of himself at work and see the trains in the background. Robert with his thumb up and, you know, just enjoying life.
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Chapter 4: How did the investigation into Rob's murder begin?
The four became inseparable. They would often get together with a handful of other young couples. They all called themselves the Wolf Pack. It's a big group when we all get together. And our little pups running around too. The Wolf Pack spent just about every holiday and birthday together. But one couple was always the center of gravity, Sabrina and Rob Limon.
I would look at Rob, and I would watch him with Sabrina, and I'd be like, that's the guy that I need to be like. And all the wives would look at Rob and say, It was hard to compare to him. Yeah, everybody would be like, why can't you be more like Rob? Yeah, be more like Rob. That's what everybody said. And as a guy, you're just like, I can never be like that.
On August 11th, 2014, Rob turned 38. He celebrated his birthday with his family and his Wolfpack friends. And then, just a week later, everything went off the rails. Rob was working the day shift at an isolated railroad office in Tehachapi, about 90 miles from Hellandale. Sabrina worked part-time passing out samples at Costco, and the couple often talked or texted during the day.
This day was no exception. Call me, Bear. I'm home now. Getting the kids dinner and ready for school. Yay! But Rob didn't respond. And he didn't call on the way home, as he almost always did. Sabrina texted him again. Babe, I'm worried about you. Call me. Leanna wants to say goodnight. That was a little after 8 p.m. Rob Lamone never did call. Instead, this call came in.
Tell me exactly what happened. I had opened the garage door and there's a light bulb busted out. He's on the ground bleeding out of his head. Okay. Oh my God!
What had happened when we returned?
I looked at her sister and I said, is this, is it true?
An apparent burglary and a mystery.
We didn't know what was going on. It didn't make a lot of sense. It didn't take long for bad news to spread in Silver Lakes. Kelly Bernatine got the call in the middle of the night and immediately drove to Sabrina's home.
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Chapter 5: What evidence pointed to Jonathan Hearn?
Chapter 6: What role did Sabrina play in the events following Rob's death?
And she's reading you the letter like, can you believe this jerk? Or she's reading you the letter like, isn't this sweet? Isn't this sweet? Listen to this. Listen to how sweet Jonathan is. So I'm trying not to throw up. I'm trying not to scream. I'm just like freaking out.
Jonathan had already admitted he'd had an affair with Sabrina a year earlier. but said they'd broken it off. Their relationship now, purely spiritual. The Bernatines thought it was tasteless at best for him to be hanging around Sabrina just days after Rob was murdered. I said, how did that make you feel? The letter. And she said? She said, well, I don't feel like he has any bad intentions.
the Bernatines thought otherwise. Jonathan's obsessive interest in the wolf pack, his affair with Sabrina, his weird voicemail. I started thinking, who would want Rob dead? Who wanted Rob out of the picture? And the only person that bought into my mind was Jonathan Hearn. Jason called the sheriff's department.
I told the cops my story. I let them listen to the voicemail. They're concerned, but at the end of everything, they're like, well, you know, sounds like they had an affair. That's pretty far from murder. Maybe this guy is just trying to move in on your dead friend's wife. Definitely doesn't mean he killed your best friend. And this might be a guy you have to learn to live with.
And so Jason wondered if maybe he'd misjudged the whole situation. After all, Jonathan was intelligent and had his whole life ahead of him.
Why would he murder for Sabrina? Why would he throw away his life? Why would he risk that for a married woman with two kids? He's young. He has a good career as a firefighter, paramedic. And he's no murderer. And he's not a murderer. I've known him for a long time. He did some bad stuff. But an affair is very far from murder.
And in this case, even farther than usual. Because Detective Meyer had learned something else about Rob and Sabrina.
A few years prior, Sabrina and Rob had invited another married couple into their group for an open relationship between the four of them. and that that was something of a way of life with those folks? I'm not sure if it was exactly a way of life, but you could say they had met before and swapped partners for the evening.
So, if Rob and Sabrina already had an open relationship, maybe Sabrina's affair with Jonathan was no big deal. Maybe Jason and Kelly just needed to get over it. I mean, look, okay, the guy's presumptuous. Okay, he's a snake. Okay, he wants you to sort of absolve him of this burden of guilt for having had the affair. But none of this makes him a killer.
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Chapter 7: How did Jonathan's actions raise suspicion during the investigation?
I have been a bad girl. I feel like the most horrible person in the world.
I do too. When Dateline continues...
Weeks had passed since Rob Limone's life was violently cut short. Detective Randall Meyer and his team were zeroing in on Jonathan Hearn as a possible suspect. And now, in Jonathan's phone records, they found a lot of calls and texts to and from a burner phone. The kind of phone that somebody would use if they were either committing a crime or having an extramarital affair.
Trying to definitely avoid law enforcement detection. Well, or husband detection. Yes, yes. I was able to get a wiretap authorized, and so we were able to go up on the phones and listen to their conversations.
When they finally listened, their suspicions were confirmed. Jonathan was on one end of the call, and on the other, Sabrina Lamont. It was immediately obvious the two were lovers. How many hours of conversations do you think you listened to between Sabrina Limon and Jonathan Herr? Hundreds. Jonathan often spoke with Sabrina from the fire station.
What were they talking about for most of that time? They talked about their future together. They talked about God a lot, about God's plan for them. They also talked about Detective Meyer. I just got a text message from Detective Meyer, and he asked me to call him. So I'm going to. Okay. And I'll pray. Okay. Okay. Okay, I just wanted you to pray. I'm going to pray and pray.
God, please help us. God, please help us to be wise. Help Sabrina to have the right words. A couple of minutes later, Sabrina called Meyer. She asked about the investigation of her husband's murder.
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Chapter 8: What was revealed in the wiretapped conversations?
So there's no information at all? Honestly, I don't have anything, and I wish I did. but I think we're kind of getting into a dead end. Which was not true. Minutes later, Sabrina called Jonathan. Everything's fine. He asked you only questions? No questions at all.
Meyer was tickling the wire. It's an expression police use, giving wiretapped suspects something to talk about while the cops are listening. Meyer often found himself in the mood to tickle. Like when he told Sabrina police had found DNA at the crime scene.
That was not true. That was a ruse we were using. And what happens as a result of that? Another immediate phone call to Jonathan to talk about the possible DNA. Sabrina and Jonathan did not exactly rejoice over this apparent break in the case. Instead, it sounded as if they suspected Meyer was playing them. Jonathan even knew the right terminology.
Officers are allowed to use ruse, meaning they're allowed to... If you want to get information, you're allowed to lie to get information. Oh, no. No. I mean, I... Yeah. That's kind of what I feel like. It didn't appear that that would be a normal conversation you would have in hopes that the suspect would be caught. The calls continued. Good morning, my lover.
Well, good morning. They talked about the Bible. There's a lot of good stuff in there. God is so good. Yeah, God is so good. Including the Old Testament story of David and Bathsheba. David is a lot like you and I, Sabrina.
It's the story of King David and the affair he had with Bathsheba, who was married to another man. After Bathsheba became pregnant, David tried to cover up the affair but failed. And then he even went on to kill the guy, like sent him into battle and pretty much had him killed off.
In the Bible, David and Bathsheba eventually married. David suffered the consequences of his sin but repented and God forgave him. He was someone who committed adultery, who had an affair. And so he went way out of his way to cover his sin. Sin was a recurring theme for Jonathan and Sabrina. I have been a bad girl. I feel like the most horrible person in the world.
I do too. I do too. I feel like I see all of my sins and who I've been. I see it all laid out in front of me.
Exactly what sins were they talking about? By now, detectives had shared with Kelly and Jason some details of the investigation. So they knew Jonathan Hearn was the prime suspect. And detectives suspected Sabrina as well. It was something Jason couldn't imagine when he first spoke with police.
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