Danny Jones Podcast
#299 - #1 DMT Scientist: BANNED Research, Biblical Prophecy & the CIA | Dr. Rick Strassman
28 Apr 2025
Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Rick Strassman is best known for pioneering DMT research in humans and proposing that DMT could be a biological gateway to mystical or alternate realities. Currently, Dr. Strassman serves as a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry at the University of New Mexico School of Medicine. His new book, "My Altered States: A Doctor's Extraordinary Account of Trauma, Psychedelics, and Spiritual Growth," is available now. SPONSORS http://morning.ver.so/danny - Use code DANNY for 15% off your first order. https://hims.com/danny - Start your FREE online visit today. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off EPISODE LINKS https://x.com/rick_strassman https://www.rickstrassman.com FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Adverse effects of DMT 06:54 - Is DMT the source of human consciousness? 10:25 - Extended state DMT experiments 20:19 - DMT reveals a universal religion 29:08 - Psychedelic religion of mystical consciousness 35:10 - What Danny saw during DMT experiment 37:54 - Terrifying experience on 5-MeO DMT 41:39 - Melatonin & the pineal gland 52:43 - When DMT stops working 57:38 - DMT & NDE's 01:02:45 - Telepathic experiences on psychedelics 01:12:53 - Prophets of the bible 01:18:34 - The first anti-christ 01:31:42 - Drugs in antiquity 01:37:24 - CIA-funded LSD clinics w/ Charles Manson 01:40:13 - Rick's friendship with Joe Rogan 01:45:42 - Did ergot & psychedelics create religion? 01:53:12 - Government research on psychedelic soldiers 02:03:01 - Amphetamines & adderall 02:14:00 - Next species of humans will have telepathy 02:19:39 - John Mack's alien research vs. psychedelics 02:26:53 - Remembering previous lives 02:29:20 - Translating the book of Genesis 02:34:06 - DARPA research on buddhism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So hi Danny, nice to meet you. Hi Rick, pleasure to meet you too as well.
Before we started rolling, we were talking about the effects of DMT. I told you I was super afraid to try it again by myself. And people I've spoken with that know more about this than I do, which isn't saying much, said that there's not really any, there's not any documented cases of people having any like real adverse effects of using DMT or overusing DMT.
Yeah, that's not been my experience. Every once or twice a year, I get a note from a family member or a friend of somebody who has smoked way too much DMT. And they develop a certain kind of mental state. It's kind of messianic that they feel they have the answer. And if people don't agree with their answer, they get mad. Yeah. So they're convinced it's kind of messianic in nature.
Have you ever heard of anybody smoking DMT and sort of like not coming back fully getting like stuck in like this weird, uh, slippery version of reality, like for forever. Cause I've had, I have friends that in high school that took a lot of LSD or smoked a lot of weed. And after a certain point, they were just never the same.
Yeah, that's hard to say. I mean, personalities get modified, I think, or can be modified under the influence of a psychedelic. But it's more, I think, that they made those changes more real in their lives. And that might be what people are referring to as they've changed. They maybe took more action on some of the ideas they had than otherwise would have been the case.
I think that's how psychedelics work actually, is they just increase the strength and power of things which already exist in the mind. If you want to be a happier person, you might become happier after taking a psychedelic because it's convinced you that it's good to be happy.
You were the first person in the United States to do human research on psychedelics. You are probably like one of the most legendary people in the psychedelic world. And one of the things that really blew my mind was that you were explaining on, I think it was Hamilton's podcast. I could be wrong. I think it was Hamilton's podcast. You were explaining how you had the idea
to get this funded when you were hanging out with Terrence McKenna And you guys decided that it would be the best way to get it funded through the war on drugs.
Right, right. That's crazy. Yeah, it was 1988. And I was kind of at a crossroads of where my career was going. The melatonin and pineal work hadn't quite panned out the way I wanted it to. But I was still interested in the pineal gland and in psychedelics mostly. Yeah. And I met Terrence a year or two before. He's the first person to give me DMT, actually.
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