In 2023, Joe Gow, the long-serving chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse, began posting pornographic videos featuring him and his wife online, revealing a double life the couple had long kept hidden. This revelation ultimately cost him his job. Through interviews with a journalist who covered the story, a former coworker, and archival audio, this episode explores the boundaries of free speech within higher education today.This episode contains references to pornography and sex and may not be suitable for younger listeners. For a transcript of this episode: https://bit.ly/campusfiles-transcripts To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode about Joe Gow?
And I had a band, and there we were, you know, two people involved with this particular faculty, both trying to make music locally.
What you're hearing right now is a disco remix of the Penn State fight song that Jerry released in the late 1970s.
And sold, I think, close to 10,000 copies.
Around the same time, Joe Gao was also trying to make it as a musician. He had a band called Johnny Deadline that he headlined as singer and guitarist.
So in 1982, Joe's band made a four-track EP here, and I'm holding in my hands and looking at a 33-and-a-third EP with four tracks, two on each side. They call me Joe Cool I haven't played it for a while. I only pulled it out because the subject came up. But I remember they were good. Kind of new wave punk. Heck, I can send you a copy. I've got a little handful.
As you can hear, Dr. Zoltan sent us a copy. This is track one, titled Joe Cool.
He wasn't just doing cover versions of other people's music. He was writing some interesting stuff, you know? It held up at the time.
And I asked Dr. Zoltan what he thought Joe's aspirations were at the time.
I'm guessing that his ambition was not unlike mine to have some sort of a breakthrough and get radio play in a region in the U.S. and have it catch on and become a hit of some sort.
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Chapter 2: What controversies surrounded Chancellor Joe Gow's tenure?
Yes, we did. Here we go.
From there, the cooking video transforms into two women suggestively sharing a glass of wine. The camera peeks up their skirts before fading out. Presumably, that's when the X-rated content begins. Here, a screen pops up that says, to see the full uncut scene, visit our loyal fans page.
But then, all of a sudden, you're looking at slow motion shots of vegetables being sauteed before being welcomed back by Joe.
I don't know about you all, but that was a workout for me in that scene. We hope you enjoyed it.
The next day, sexy happy couple posted another cooking video with another porn star with another cut to an adult scene and a link to their loyal fans page. Four days later, another video, this time featuring their old friend, Nina Hartley. These videos were online for three weeks, completely unprotected by a paywall before anyone at the university caught wind of them.
And when they did, it sent shockwaves through campus.
The couple have posted videos on porn websites under the username Sexy Happy Couple.
Gow says the board fired him because they were uncomfortable with him and his wife producing and appearing in pornographic videos.
And when it was brought to the attention of university officials, he was denounced by top administrators and the Universities of Wisconsin Board of Regents, who called his behavior abhorrent.
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