Bites & Bytes Podcast
The Anthropology of Cybersecurity with George Kamide | Exploring the Intersection of Tech, Culture, and Food Systems
Sun, 15 Sep 2024
In this episode of the Bites and Bytes Podcast, host Kristin Demoranville welcomes George Kamide, co-host of the Bare Knuckles & Brass Tacks podcast, Head of Community at The CISO Society, and Co-Founder of Mind Over Cyber. George brings his expertise in both cybersecurity and anthropology to the conversation, discussing the cultural, human, and technological factors shaping the global food supply chain. Together, they examine how cybersecurity intersects with agriculture, the vulnerabilities within our food systems, and the importance of protecting this critical infrastructure. If you're interested in the connections between cybersecurity, food security, and technology, this episode is packed with valuable insights into securing the systems that sustain us. _______________________________________________ 🏆 Vote for Bites and Bytes Podcast for Women in Podcasting Award 🏆 Voting deadline: October 1, 2024 https://womeninpodcasting.net/bites-and-bytes-podcast/ THANK YOU! 🤩 🎉 _______________________________________________ George’s Information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-kamide/ The CISO Society: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-ciso-society/posts/?feedView=all Mind Over Cyber: https://www.linkedin.com/company/mind-over-cyber/posts/?feedView=all _______________________________________________ Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks Podcast Information: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bare-knuckles-brass-tacks/posts/?feedView=all Listen here: https://open.spotify.com/show/1be0fUg0zTS6nfdUFlNDOt?si=97ff77d647294ff8 Merch Shop: https://bkbtpodcast.shop/ Secure World Denver October 10, 2024 [Closing Keynote] Radical Transparency Needed to Build Trust https://events.secureworld.io/agenda/denver-co-2024/ _______________________________________________ Show Notes: Brazil's innovation and technology in ag-tech: https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/ci/research-analysis/innovation-technology-brazil-emerges-dominant-agribusiness.html Development of Brazilian Agriculture: https://agricultureandfoodsecurity.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2048-7010-1-4 SMART FARMING IN BRAZIL: AN OVERVIEW OF TECHNOLOGY, ADOPTION AND FARMER PERCEPTION: https://www.rbgdr.net/revista/index.php/rbgdr/article/download/6040/1250/15857 "50% of croplands are used for human food; 38% is for livestock feed; and 12% is for non-food uses." https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture#:~:text=Poore%20and%20Nemecek%20estimate%20that,of%20the%20paper's%20Supplementary%20Information. Food Insecurity in Ukraine: https://www.wfp.org/stories/war-ukraine-how-humanitarian-tragedy-fed-global-hunger-crisis Global Starvation because of Russia's War on Ukraine: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/02/us/politics/russia-ukraine-food-crisis.html Ukraine's war damage to agriculture: https://resoilfoundation.org/en/agricultural-industry/ukraine-war-pollution-soil/ Ukraine's state of soil as impacted by war: https://www.agroberichtenbuitenland.nl/documenten/publicaties/2024/03/28/ukrainian-soil H5 Avian Flu in cows: https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/officials-await-testing-clues-missouri-h5-avian-flu-case-michigan-reports H5N1 Bird Flue Reponse CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09132024.html#:~:text=Since%20April%202024%2C%2014%20human,H5N1)%20virus%2Dinfected%20poultry How Food Gets Contaminated: The Food Production Chain: https://www.cdc.gov/foodborne-outbreaks/foodproductionchain/index.html _______________________________________________ News Break: Boar's Head https://www.food-safety.com/articles/9740-following-outbreak-boars-head-forms-food-safety-council-of-top-experts-closes-facility-discontinues-liverwurst https://www.food-safety.com/articles/9724-inspection-reports-show-mold-insects-meat-residues-and-more-at-boars-head-facility-responsible-for-listeria-outbreak https://www.food-safety.com/articles/9636-boars-head-rte-deli-meats-recalled-after-two-listeriosis-deaths https://www.fsis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media_file/documents/Non-Compliance_Reports_112022-To-812024.pdf Avian Influenza https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/spotlights/h5n1-response-09132024.html#:~:text=Since%20April%202024%2C%2014%20human,H5N1)%20virus%2Dinfected%20poultry _______________________________________________ Episode Key Highlights: 00:00 - Introduction 02:15 - Cultural Significance of Food 10:30 - Global Food Supply Chains and Technology 18:45 - Vulnerabilities in the Food Supply System 26:00 - Communication Skills in Cybersecurity 33:20 - Resilience in Supply Chains 41:10 - Future of Cybersecurity _______________________________________________ Bites and Bytes Podcast Info: TikTok Website: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website. 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Full Episode
Welcome back to another episode of the Bites and Bytes podcast. I'm your host, Kristen Demmer-Enville, and today I'm excited to be joined by the extraordinary George Kamidi, co-founder of Mind Over Cyber and co-host of Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks.
George brings a unique combination of expertise in both anthropology and cybersecurity, and today we'll be exploring the human factors, cultural dynamics, and complexities of the global food supply chain. A special note before we begin, I want to acknowledge something important.
This episode was recorded before the recent updates on the avian flu and listeria outbreak linked to deli meat incidents. I wish to extend my thoughts to those affected and be sensitive to everyone working through these crises. Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy my conversation with George. Let's get started.
It's finally happening. I have George K. We'll get into who George K. is in a second. I want you to start with your favorite food and your favorite food memory, because it's literally my favorite question I ask everybody.
Oh, wow. Yes. First, I am very excited to be here. I know we've been talking about it for a while. Favorite food. Oh, okay. I'm going to go with tacos first. There's so many I could pick, but tacos were the key ingredient into getting my kids to try new things.
If I could get it into a taco, they would eat it, and now they love tacos, and they are on the hunt for taco trucks, and they have a very discerning palate for their age, so I'm going to say tacos. Tacos. Favorite food memory. My family is from Brazil, and so there is a traditional Brazilian dish called feijoada, which is black beans that is stewed over very low heat for a very long time.
Like many cultural foods that are used to typify a country, let's say the pastas of Italy or the noodles of China, the paella of Spain, feijoada was poor people's food, more specifically slave food. It was basically whatever meat scraps were thrown to the slaves, they would put in this pot. And because they're working long hours, you know, somebody was watching it for a long period of time.
But I had it a lot growing up. It was delicious. And so my favorite food memory is the first time I went back to Brazil since we had immigrated to the States. Being able to locate this fish water that was being cooked out in this field in a gigantic, like the biggest pot I have ever seen in my life. And I located it by smell alone.
Like it was just sort of like a cartoon, like drifting on the vapor of the hot. So it was just felt like a very full circle moment from growing up with it as a kid and being told stories about Brazil. And then finally being able to go back to Brazil for the first time and turns out that food was the connector.
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