Bites & Bytes Podcast
Cyber Resilience in Food and Agriculture: Andrew Rose & Dr. Darin Detwiler (Part 1)
Tue, 17 Dec 2024
In this episode, Kristin Demoranville sits down with AgFuturist Andrew Rose and food safety advocate Dr. Darin Detwiler to discuss why cybersecurity is a growing concern for the food and agriculture industries. Andrew Rose, an advisor to BIO-ISAC and a leader in agricultural innovation, shares his insights into protecting farmers and food supply chains from cyber threats. Dr. Detwiler, a renowned food safety expert, educator, and author, explains why inaction is the greatest cost to our global food systems. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation on resilience, risks, and real solutions for protecting what feeds us all. 🔊 This is Part 1 of a two-part series. _______________________________________________ Episode Key Highlights: (0:00:21) - Introducing Andrew Rose and Dr. Darin Detwiler (0:00:49) - Andrew Rose: Supporting Agriculture Through Cybersecurity (0:01:10) - Darin Detwiler: Food Safety Awareness and Advocacy (0:07:14) - Reflections on the Montreal Conference Panel (0:08:56) - Challenges in Communicating Cybersecurity to Executives (0:11:27) - Differences Between Traditional and Cybersecurity Audiences (0:14:14) - Food and Agriculture as Universal Critical Infrastructure (0:16:42) - Complexity and Fragility of the Food System (0:18:19) - Cybersecurity Adoption Barriers for Small Farmers (0:21:23) - Tech Stacks: Agility vs. Fragility in Food Systems (0:24:08) - Financial Risks and Proactive Cybersecurity Investments (0:27:33) - Cost of Doing Nothing: Ignoring Risks in Food Security (0:30:02) - Corporate Responsibility and Accountability in Cyber Incidents (0:32:11) - Predictions of a High-Profile Food Cybersecurity Attack (0:35:09) - Cybersecurity Awareness and Future Resilience Initiatives _______________________________________________ Show Notes: Nashville Recommendations from Andrew Rose: (Hotdogs) I Dream Of Weenie: https://www.facebook.com/IDreamofWeenie (Ribs) Uncle Bud’s Catfish Chicken & Such: https://www.unclebuds.com/ _______________________________________________ Our panel was at the InCyber Conference in Montreal: https://northamerica.forum-incyber.com/en/home-en/ InCyber Forum USA (new) San Antonio, TX, June 17-18, 2025: https://usa.forum-incyber.com/ _______________________________________________ Cyberbiosecurity Summit February 25-26, Laurel, Maryland: https://www.cyberbiosecuritysummit.org/ Sumitt to a proposal to speak here: https://www.cyberbiosecuritysummit.org/sessions _______________________________________________ BSides ICS/OT Conference 🎉🌟 Feb. 10, 2025, in Tampa, Florida 🌴 (the day before S4x25 Conference) 🔗 https://www.bsidesics.org/ Call for Papers is OPEN till 12/31/24! Registration is OPEN: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bsides-icsot-tickets-1078099778459 General Admission is $30, and Student/Veteran is $20! Questions or Need more information email: info@bsidesics.org _______________________________________________ Bites and Bytes Podcast Info: TikTok Website: Explore all our episodes, articles, and more on our official website. Visit Now Merch Shop: Show your support with some awesome Bites and Bytes gear! 🧢👕 Shop Now Blog: Stay updated with the latest insights and stories from the world of cybersecurity in the food industry. Read Our Blog Audience Survey: We value your feedback! Help us make the podcast even better. Take the Survey
Full Episode
Welcome back to the Bites and Bites podcast, everyone. I am your host, Kristen M. Ranville. Today's episode is part one of a two-part series featuring two incredible guests that you might recognize from previous episodes, Andrew Rose and Dr. Darren Detweiler. We have a bit of a recap of a panel we did together in InCyber Montreal conference this past October.
Then we'll be talking about the fragility of our food systems, the critical role of cybersecurity, and what's at stake if we don't act now. It's a very sobering yet inspiring conversation, so let's get into it. Well, welcome back, everybody. We have some returning guests, but we're also going to talk about a panel that we all recently did together in Montreal.
And this is going to be kind of a continuation of that and a little bit for those who missed it. If you weren't at the InCyber conference in Montreal, Darren and Andrew, thank you for being here. We're going to start with quick introductions because I'm sure everybody needs to remember who you are. So tell me how you help people and why that matters to society. Andrew, you can start.
Sure. I am Andrew Rose. I am an advisor with the BioISAC. I represent the bioagriculture work group there. How we help people is basically to... trying to ensure they have food that they eat in a reliable consistent manner. Who we help are the agricultural community and bringing awareness mitigation response to cyber and related threats that they may encounter.
My role in that is understanding what those threats may be and putting tabletop and field exercises on and I have a particular fascination with agriculture for many reasons.
Darren?
I am a food safety professor and author and advocate, and I help in the areas of awareness, allies, advocacy, and even activism. And specifically, I help people who work in food safety for major corporations where They say, well, we never talk about food safety and I can't get in and the conversation around food safety.
And I say, well, you know, when they're talking about reducing waste and improving upon inefficiencies and maximizing profits and and and, you know, that kind of stuff. That's where you can talk about food safety. When you look at it that way, when you look at the idea of brand reputation and a corporate mission statement, how does food safety relate to that?
How do all these different things relate to that? So I basically help people, I listen, and then I help them reframe the conversation.
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