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Behind the Bastards

It Could Happen Here Weekly 159

Sat, 07 Dec 2024

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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  Occupied America and the Primal Father How the Mapuche Fought Colonization feat. Andrew What's Happening in Syria The South Korean People Defeat the World's Worst Coup The Real Dangers of Abortion Under Trump You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone  Sources: Occupied America and the Primal Father https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/theodor-w-adorno-freudian-theory-and-the-pattern-of-fascist-propaganda-5.pdf  https://apnews.com/article/turning-point-election-2024-donald-trump-2b3580134a6b19dff18771c3fdb0f11a  https://www.denver7.com/follow-up/aurora-pauses-closure-plans-of-apartments-at-center-of-venezuelan-gang-claims-after-court-appoints-caretaker https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/aurora-police-id-more-armed-men-in-viral-video-no-venezuelan-gang-ties-reported/ https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-trump-holds-campaign-rally-in-aurora-colorado https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/06/politics/trump-anti-immigrant-comments/index.html  https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-authoritarian-rhetoric-hitler-mussolini/680296/  The South Korean People Defeat the World's Worst Coup https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-yoon-martial-law-25a2a7c957e77a19f771b6b7c56a2173 https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/politics/assembly/1170874.html https://www.mk.co.kr/en/politics/11107769 https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2024/12/113_387639.html https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/03/world/south-korea-martial-law https://news.kbs.co.kr/news/pc/view/view.do?ncd=8122266 https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20241204006400315?section=national/politics https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/politics/politics_general/1170684.html https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/politics/politics_general/1170674.html https://apnews.com/article/south-korea-yoon-wife-scandal-ba065a2f07d5fc4a63fe0e4d36de12f6 https://www.npr.org/2024/12/04/g-s1-36730/south-korea-president-martial-law https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/politics/defense/1170683.html https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1170893.html https://english.hani.co.kr/ https://www.hani.co.kr/arti/politics/politics_general/1170682.html The Real Dangers of Abortion Under Trump https://mahotline.org https://reprolegalhelpline.org https://digitaldefensefund.org/ddf-guides/abortion-privacy-top-3https://digitaldefensefund.org/ddf-guides/abortion-privacyhttps://ifwhenhow.org/resources/selfcare-criminalized/https://medium.com/@Kendra_Serra/fear-uncertainty-and-period-trackers-340ab8fdff74See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

0.089 - 26.668 Jake Hanrahan

You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. I'm Jake Hanrahan, journalist and documentary filmmaker. Away Days is my new project, reporting on countercultures on the fringes of society all across the world. Live from the underground, you'll discover no rules fighting, Japanese street racing, Brazilian favela life and much more. All real, completely uncensored.

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Listen to the Away Days podcast, reporting from the underbelly, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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And it's going to take us to heal us.

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It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey.

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I never let that little girl inside of me die.

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To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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AT&T, connecting changes everything.

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I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question that we rarely ask ourselves. All of May is actually Mental Health Awareness Month and on the psychology of your 20s, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is so hard to talk about. Prepare for our conversations to go deep.

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I spent the majority of my teenage years and my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified.

Chapter 2: How did the Mapuche resist colonization?

3311.127 - 3334.439 Andrew T

Military outposts and settlements were also established in the newly annexed land, festively facing the region under martial law and making it difficult for Mapuche communities to resist openly. replace the words Chilean government with Israeli government and Mapuche with Palestinian. And that's just to tell you how antiquated the current tactics of colonization are.

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3335.219 - 3337.04 Andrew T

You know, very little has changed.

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3337.56 - 3339.661 Robert Evans

No, that's exactly what I've been thinking about.

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3340.001 - 3360.912 Andrew T

Yeah, I mean, a lot of the former major colonial powers have found more subtle means of considering the exploitation and subjugation of people around the world. So it's very rare to see something so open and flagrant. You know, it's something that you expect to see in historical accounts such as this, of...

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3361.912 - 3386.083 Andrew T

land holdings being chopped up and given to settlers and laws and education being imposed onto a native population to suppress and to assimilate their entity you know military outposts being established on julianic's land martial law being established for the native inhabitants all those things hear about it in the push of the american frontier and you hear about it in

3387.103 - 3395.945 Andrew T

throughout South America and Africa, including our history, you don't really tend to think about that key and now when it is happening in full key.

3397.506 - 3420.65 Robert Evans

No, like that's exactly what I was thinking about as you've been going through all this, like how it just sounds exactly the same as what Israel is currently doing. And I think why people latch on to like Israel specifically so much is because of how like out of time, their tactics of colonial expansion feel. And similarly, it's just built on this base level of dehumanization. Exactly.

3420.85 - 3427.693 Robert Evans

That a whole bunch of other imperial powers kind of try to hide or mask a little bit. And with Israel, it's just so masked off.

3427.713 - 3438.637 Andrew T

That's the way I think about all the time. They were like a century late, pretty much. Yeah. If they had started this process like a century earlier, they would have actually probably have gotten away with it, unfortunately.

Chapter 3: What were the impacts of the Syrian conflict on Kurdish populations?

Chapter 4: How does the rhetoric used by leaders impact public perception?

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Although the HDS really denied that they are similar to ISIS, although they have a similar Islamist ideology. So they took the city of Aleppo in three days, and they have been trying to go up towards Hama, a city more up. So far, they haven't been able to take the city.

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And on the other hand, you also have another group called the Syrian National Army, which is groups composed of basic groups that were supported by the Turkish government. They also started to move. They also started to carry out operations against Kurdish-led forces, also known as the Syrian Democratic Forces or the YPG.

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And also they started to do operations against the Syrian government above Al-Bab and also in northern Aleppo. And they took also several towns in northern Aleppo and also they advanced. And I think their main reason of that, so while the HDS is primarily mostly fighting against the Syrian government,

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I think the Syrian National Army, because it's backed by Turkey, they also have an interest to undermine the Syrian Democratic Forces, because Turkey, in the past they have said they don't want to have a second Kurdish autonomous region in the region, because we have already one in Iraq after... which became recognized after the fall of Saddam. So you have a Kurdistan region in Iraq.

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And Turkey was sort of afraid to have a second Kurdistan region in Syria, especially because it's created by a group which has ideological affiliation with the PKK. They follow the ideology of the imprisoned leader of the PKK, Abdullah Öcalan, which Turkey sees as a terrorist organization.

5453.903 - 5454.123 Unknown

Mm-hmm.

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So it's very complex, which we always keep saying about Syria. But you basically have two different operations. You have the Turkish-backed groups that are trying to stop the Kurds from linking up with Aleppo. And then you have the HDS, the Islamist groups that are trying to go up. And they already took Aleppo. And they also took many areas in the countryside of Hama. And actually...

5477.546 - 5505.428 Vladimir von Wilgenburg

they now control all of Idlib province so in the past the Syrian government they controlled some parts of Idlib but now they control the HDS they control all of Idlib yeah so I think if we start by looking I think most people who listen to this will be familiar with the SDF with the autonomous administration in northeast Syria and with the Rojava revolution and they'll be wondering kind of the question I get mostly is like how does this impact that

5506.388 - 5526.696 Vladimir von Wilgenburg

That's what people are asking. So with that in mind, I think we should explain perhaps, we've talked before in this show about Operation Peace Spring, Euphrates Shield, these Turkish incursions into previously SDF controlled areas and the genocidal violence that accompanied that or ethnic cleansing, however you want to phrase it.

Chapter 5: What is the significance of the current political climate in Syria?

8701.634 - 8710.777 Mia Wong

So I think the plan was to hold the National Assembly and prevent the National Assembly from convening so that there was nobody who could override the martial law order.

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8710.917 - 8714.999 Robert Evans

Yeah, that sounds pretty basic, right? Just to keep them out of the building so that they can't do anything.

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8715.019 - 8715.139 Mia Wong

Yeah.

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8715.339 - 8718.04 Robert Evans

So they failed. Easy, right? Oh, oh, no, they failed.

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8718.3 - 8736.354 Mia Wong

Yeah, so the problem here, again, is that you're dealing with an entire country that has been doing this for fucking ages, right? So they do this at like 10.30 at night, and immediately what happens is just like a bunch of drunk guys in bars show up to the National Assembly. The moment I knew it was doomed was I was reading in the New York Times, they had an interview with this guy who showed up.

8736.675 - 8755.988 Mia Wong

This is, again, when I'm talking about this being a country of protesters. These guys aren't leftist revolutionaries, right? One of the guys they were talking to, the New York Times, they're journalists on the ground, pulls over a random guy, And he's a 60 year old real estate agent. Right. This is a guy who should be like this should be the base of a military coup. Right.

8756.009 - 8773.4 Mia Wong

This is a 60 year old man who does real estate. And he heard about this. It immediately his his life was, quote, this is the end. So he drove for a fucking hour at like one in the morning to show up to the National Assembly to go fight the army. There was just no way this is going to work. And so people, even though it's really late at night, people just flood out.

8773.92 - 8788.748 Mia Wong

And suddenly, there's all of these protesters in front of the National Assembly, and they're doing shit like, there's this unbelievable video of this soldier, like, tries to take a guy's phone, and this guy has some kind of martial arts training, and just grabs his arm and just spins him around. It's the coolest thing.

8789.729 - 8792.61 Mia Wong

And the guy's just like, the soldier's like, well, fuck this, I'm not dealing with this shit.

Chapter 6: How do indigenous movements align with broader social justice movements?

Chapter 7: What are the historical parallels between the Mapuche and other indigenous struggles?

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9866.488 - 9887.373 Mia Wong

Welcome to It Could Happen Here, a podcast that is quite often about abortion in this country. I'm your host, Mia Wong. Things have been very bad under the last administration and the administration before that and the administration before that. And going back a long, long time, things have been not good. They've been steadily getting worse. And there is a lot of fear.

9887.493 - 9906.94 Mia Wong

And I think a lot of it is very justified that things are going to get even worse under Trump. And to talk about what we need to be afraid of and what we don't. is Kate Bertash, who's the Executive Director of the Digital Defense Fund, and also Crystal, who's an abortion worker and also a volunteer for Abortion Hotlines. So both of you two, welcome to the show.

9907.56 - 9910.762 Kate Bertash

Excellent. Thanks for having us on. Yeah, thanks for having me.

9911.182 - 9917.826 Mia Wong

Yeah, I'm really excited to talk to you both, and I'm also excited to let Kate talk a little bit about what the Digital Defense Fund is.

9918.346 - 9932.115 Kate Bertash

Excellent. Thanks so much. Long-time listener, first-time caller, I suppose. So the Digital Defense Fund is an organization that's been around for... Actually, since the last election, it was started in response to Trump winning for the first time.

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