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The RFK Files Coverup & Failed State Of California w/ Mark Groubert & Chris Moritz – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 478
Sun, 20 Apr 2025
Tulsi Gabbard, the new Director of National Intelligence, says she has over 100 people working “around the clock” to prepare the RFK files for release. What will they find? • FRESH PRESSED OLIVE OIL – Olive oil packs the most flavor and healthiest nutrients when it’s fresh. Don’t settle for stale supermarket olive oils – get it direct from small, award-winning farms! Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 shipping & taste the difference at https://GetFreshDrDrew.com/ Chris Moritz tells Newsmax: “The unraveling of California is a case study in the perils of unchecked oligarchy where concentrated wealth, political corruption, and mass migration are weaponized to dissolve national cohesion.” Newsmax reports that in 2022, LA had a “crime rate of 36 for 1,000 residents. That’s one of the highest in the nation.” Mark Groubert is a writer, editor, producer, publisher, and screenwriter. He has written for LA Weekly, edited National Lampoon magazine, produced for HBO, published MTV Magazine, and worked as a screenwriter with the WGA. He co-hosts America’s Untold Stories on YouTube. More at https://americasuntoldstories.com and https://x.com/lordbuckly Chris Moritz, a corporate attorney, investment researcher, and M&A executive, authored Failed State: A Portrait of California in the Twilight of Empire. A third-generation Santa Monican, he graduated from UCLA, holds an MPhil from the University of Cambridge, and earned a JD from NYU School of Law. He served as a senior advisor at the U.S. Department of Commerce under President Trump. More at https://x.com/chrisgmoritz 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FRESH PRESSED OLIVE OIL - Olive oil packs the most flavor and healthiest nutrients when it’s fresh. Don't settle for stale supermarket olive oils – get it direct from small, award-winning farms! Get your free $39 bottle for just $1 shipping & taste the difference at https://GetFreshDrDrew.com/ • HEART FACTORS PLUS - A powerful formula packed with L-arginine, a key amino acid that's been shown to enhance nitric oxide physiology and could play a key role in supporting healthy blood flow and circulation. Get a FREE bottle with your order at https://heartfactorsplus.com/drew • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at https://drdrew.com/skinrepair • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the guests and what are their backgrounds?
Well, apparently Tulsi Gabbard has over 100 personnel working on around the clock to prepare the RFK files for release. We also have Chris that will be commenting on that. We've Mark Ribeiro. I'll tell you about him in a second. And then it's Chris Moritz. He's the unraveling of California is a case study in the perils of unchecked oligarchy. We're going to talk to him after we talk to. Mark.
Mark is a writer, editor, producer, publisher, screenwriter. He has written on LA Weekly, edited for National Lampoon Magazine, produced for HBO, MTV, screenwriter, journalist, really, as I think of him. He hosts America's Untold Story on YouTube. And Chris has a lengthy pedigree, including an MPH from University of Cambridge, JD from NYU. We will talk to both these gentlemen right after this.
Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre. A psychopath started this. He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction, fentanyl and heroin. Ridiculous. I'm a doctor for f***'s sake. Where the hell do you think I learned that? I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people. I am a clinician. I observe things about these chemicals.
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Mark is my great, Mark is my crystal brain. Well, I have a few crystal brains in my life. And Mark is one of them to help me understand where I am and where we're going. So I'll just let you start there.
Well, I think to sum it up, I think we're looking at civil war around the world. The repression and the tactics of repression that are going on in Western Europe, in Ireland and UK and Scotland, that is a powder keg that just needs a light, that's gonna blow. You're gonna see something here happen the same way. This situation is- Well, hang on, slow down, slow down.
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Chapter 2: What is the current geopolitical climate and risk of civil unrest?
Slow down, slow up, slow up. You're delivering bad news as you often do. Oh, I'm sorry.
It's just the Dr. Drew show.
But let me understand what the powder keg is. Are you saying people are going to react to the repression? Or they're going to come down on people violently because they fight off the repression? I mean, how's that going to work?
When you're being arrested in the United Kingdom for tweeting,
physically arrested this can only go on for so long when you are arresting the leading candidate in the nation of france who could walk into the presidency this can't go on much longer when you are arresting the president-elect of romania this cannot go on much longer uh i could talk slower but it's not going to make the thing go away the situation here in the united states
No, no, no, no, the situation here in the United States with this Carmelo Anthony case that you now see, that could be the powder keg that ignites a George Floyd situation again. So, I mean, I could go around every country and point it out, but I think what you're going to get into, and I'm not the only one saying this, there are quite a few smart, erudite UK professors talking about this.
The situation is going to be like a Northern Ireland situation with sectarian violence for many years. Started by some sort of- In the UK. UK, Ireland, here, Romania, France, it's going to be around the world because they are not stopping. The repression is not stopping.
And look, until it does, if you're doing what Mike Benz talked about in the USAID files that he uncovered is something called transitional justice. is the phrase used by the deep state to lock up your opponents, Drew. That's what's happening in Romania. That's what's happening in France. That's what's happening in countries around the world.
And that's what happened here with Donald Trump on a number of occasions.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the RFK assassination files?
Well, in terms of just the JFK files, I mean, I have been studying this for 50 years. I've written about it. I've written a miniseries with Oliver Stone on Lee Harvey Oswald. I've written a script on LBJ with Oliver Stone. So I've worked in the film business trying to get these projects made. I have a channel called America's Untold Stories where we've done about 200 videos on the JFK conspiracy.
So I am quite well versed in this. Recently, what Drew is talking about here is Tulsi Gabbard coming out and finally releasing not the JFK files, the JFK files we've been studying since the 1992 assassination record review board
A law was put into effect following JFK the movie, which became the JFK Records Act, which led to the Assassination Records Review Board, which led to the first releases and declassification of the JFK files. So that's been going on since 1992. There were some files.
Still remaining that Trump has now released and people are going through them now unredacted files mostly about foreign governments and intelligence operations and Mexico City and Australia and things of that nature. But there's never been anything on the RFK front and the RFK files along with the MLK files reside in the Justice Department.
And in that Justice Department are files, and I don't know what they are, because we almost got the case reopened in terms of the RFK assassination. People now understand, as RFK Jr. does, both of us were involved, myself and RFK Jr.,
In the last parole hearing of Sirhan Sirhan, who's the oldest inmate in the California penal system, he has been proven repeatedly through science, through Thomas Noguchi's quote-unquote perfect autopsy and the examination of Thane Eugene Caesar. Sirhan has been, in many people's minds, absolved of killing RFK. And RFK Jr. particularly knows this.
He's met with Sirhan and as I said, both of us were involved in his parole. We got him paroled and Newsom got some calls from the two sisters of RFK. who felt threatened that a 78-year-old man who is about 5'2 would somehow take an Uber from Pasadena to Malibu and kill them. Their words, not mine. And he put the kibosh on his own parole board's recommendation to release Sirhan Sirhan.
That's what RFK Jr. and I had done. And we both have examined this case very closely. and it seems apparent to anybody and this is far simpler than the jfk case the rfk case is as simple as apple pie because the ballistics of the case have a gun in back of rfk's head either touching the back of his head by his ears right here and also a uh you know the stippling and and gunpowder residue
The ballistics report and the coroner's report, again, Thomas Noguchi's almost perfect autopsy with every single coroner of the medical of the military world with him during that autopsy proves that he was shot from behind by close range. And the only one there was a security guard named Thane Eugene Caesar.
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Chapter 4: How credible is the evidence regarding the RFK assassination?
Well, first of all, how dare you? How dare you, Mark Ribeiro? But the answer is I have grave concerns about the level of understanding of the complexity of this thing we call addiction. Even by people who claim to be addiction experts. It's a gravely, you have to spend decades of your career interacting with multiple disciplines with this disease to have a passing understanding of it, frankly.
But most people understand it as neurobiology.
What's your simple... Your simple definition of addiction, a repetitive behavior that makes your life unmanageable, that you want to stop and you can't. I think that would be a good street level explanation, right, Joe?
You left out two things. You left out two things. Progression, it always progresses. And this is the part that nobody talks about anymore. And then there's always some degree of denial. Denial is how it operates.
Okay, well, those are signed. I would say those are four and five on the list of the top three. Okay.
They are four and five, but they are defining. They're actually defining. If you don't have those two things, you have to go, maybe this is an addiction. We have to look, be carefully.
Well, not everyone's in denial. Some people simply don't want to hide repeatedly and couldn't stop or didn't stop.
It might get an asterisk. We're getting into the weeds because how could anybody continue to destroy themselves if they had full clarity on what was happening? Whether it's lying or distorting or minimizing or whatever it is, that's all denial. That's all some level of denial.
It's a very broad category. Getting back to these files, I'm much more excited about the RFK and the MLK files because these have never been released. I don't know what's in there. I'm very excited. Now, we here trying to, myself and Paul Schrade and other people, Paul Schrade was shot in the head. The first person shot by Sirhan inside the pantry at the Ambassador Hotel here in Los Angeles.
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Chapter 5: What do we know about the MLK wiretaps and related files?
Well, they're scanning. They're redacting stuff. No, they're just scanning. I mean, it's just the physics of scanning. I mean, you have these documents, you take them and scan them. It takes a lot of people, takes a lot of hours to pull that off. And that's apparently what Tulsi is referring to.
So who's going to present them to us? Is she going to be the one?
Well, that's a good question because they have a system for the JFK archives, and that's using the National Archives website, which is where you can find all of the files for the JFK case. I don't think that these are going to go onto that website. I mean, traditionally with the JFK case, They have an archivist who physically puts them in folders and physically puts them on the website.
Trump fired the archivist and there needs to be a new archivist confirmed by the United States Senate. It's a confirmation position, by the way. Yet somehow he was able to get out the JFK documents on the National Archives website. I think they may put them on there as well because... as a lack of another better place to put them.
So I want to switch gears back to where we started this conversation about where we're going and what the world is in for. When I listened to Mike Benz and his, let's call it unraveling of all the intelligence problems I don't know how to even describe it. It gets confusing to me is my point.
And I always think to myself, Mike Benz was hired by the Obama administration to make sense of all this shit that he's presenting now to us because that administration couldn't understand what was going on with the intelligence community and was worried that it had become adulterated. Now, here we have all this information that guys like Mike Benz are putting out there.
And personally, I'm just as confused as ever. Are they just running, is it a hydro? It's just going, it can't be sort of, what is going on there?
To simplify it, what Benz has uncovered is a system of phony NGOs and a system to funnel money from USAID affiliated with the State Department to pet causes around the world. The pet causes themselves are phony. In other words, all of this, hoopla and laughability about funding a trans human mice in Bulgaria or gay rodeos in Lithuania. Those were all covers.
What they were using the money for was to buy elections and to alter the politics of these particular countries. That's what Benz has uncovered. The money was enormous. It was taxpayer dollars out of the realm of Congress allocating this, out of the realm of the State Department. A complete rogue government running the world. This is the machinery of empire.
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Chapter 6: What is the role of Tulsi Gabbard and the release process for the RFK files?
Well, put it this way, the head of Reddit was one of the heads of USAID. So, I mean, she literally worked for both organizations. And you're going to see these phony organizations disappear. Now, famously, people like Moby, people like Rob Reiner, social media... People had their social media accounts. They gave them over to the CIA to run them as part of an anti-Trump warfare, PSYOP.
And Moby admitted it out loud that he turned over his accounts to them. Rob Reiner, who went to rehab recently because his mind was blown so badly by Trump, his entire social media account has been deleted, Drew. These were psyops run by the CIA who asked them, can we take over your social media accounts? And many of these celebrities agreed to it. That's all gone now.
Whether they did it for money or for ideology is another question. These things are drying up all around the American empire now.
I would love to see some documentation of Rob Reiner's having been controlled by CIA because he seemed like a true believer. It'd be really interesting. Some of the things he did say didn't make sense. So I wonder where that was coming from. Right. Thank you.
I mean, read what he wrote about Trump. It doesn't sound anything like the man that we know. If you go through his Twitter feed and read these statements, they're not Rob Reiner. Go through Moby's, they're not Moby. There's dozens of other celebrities who did the same thing.
And probably, based on their Trump derangement syndrome, which is now Musk derangement syndrome, it's now branched off into another derangement. But, you know, that's part of the the NGO and part of the USAID.
Yeah, the must arrangement syndrome, I find one of the more disturbing DS's in that. He has done so much good. I mean, if you've read his biography, you get a really sense of who this guy is and how much he's contributed and how much he could contribute.
Well, look, I mean, think about where the hatred goes the most. Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., right? Donald Trump, Elon Musk. Why are these people singled out, Joe Rogan? They're apostates who left the church. No one is hated more than apostates who leave a cult. The reason that Dick Cheney and his daughter and Bush are untouchable by the Marxist left is because they've stayed in their own lane.
They're targeting people who left their cult. including Donald Trump. They're apostates, Drew. That's what the rage is about. Look who leaves Scientology. Look who left the people's temple, Jim Jones. Look at every cult. The ones that are targeted are the apostates. That's who these ex-Democrats are. The hatred is directed towards them the most. Not Dick Cheney, a war criminal.
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Chapter 7: What insights does Mike Benz provide about global influence and USAID funding?
What is it, one out of 20 now?
You're attacking non-neuronormatives. What's the ratio? It's down to one in 12 in California.
Well, California. We're ahead of the curve because it's California. We're always number one in those areas.
Things to be ashamed of. All right, my friend. Good to see you. And we no doubt will talk soon.
All right. Drew, thank you so much for having me on. Thank you. You got it.
Oh, wait, wait. Look for Mark on X at Lord Buckley.
L-O-R-D-B-U-C-K-L. L-Y. And tomorrow, America's Untold Stories on YouTube, Rumble, and Locals for the news tomorrow and JFK stuff. Tomorrow's going to be the JFK files and the RFK files tomorrow.
All right, it's coming, coming soon. Yeah, it's coming, bro. He'll be in deep on it, no doubt. So follow him. All right, thank you so much. Chris Moore is next with us. You got it, my friend. Corporate attorney, investment researcher, M&A executive, author of a book called Failed State, A Portrait of California in the Twilight of Empire. He's been in Santa Monica for multiple generations.
It says third generation. I didn't know people had been living in Santa Monica that long. He's got a master of philosophy from Cambridge, earned a JD from NYU, served as a senior advisor at the U.S. Department of Commerce under the first, I think it was the first time, presidency.
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Chapter 8: How has social media and celebrity involvement influenced political narratives?
You guys are active today. Oh, my goodness. Okay, it's not a theme evolving here, but a lot of opinions about things.
I should toss it out there that this is not the guest's fault. We had told him to be here three minutes from now, and then we went to break a little early. So we gave him wrong info. He was on time. My fault. My fault.
He's coming in right now. It's all good. You tell me when he's ready. And... Okay. It'll be interesting to see what the RFK files, though, and MLK files provide, though. You know, history is written in strange ways. And the more information we get about history, the more able we are to understand the human experience. And so I am in favor of taking unblemished look at things.
And most of history is sort of Myth. Myth meets PR. I got interested in reading biographies in history back about 20 years ago where I was just looking at a penny and just going, who is this guy on the penny? I don't know really anything about this human. I was working in a psychiatric hospital then. I had some understanding that humans were pretty complex.
And I started reading biographies and I thought, oh man, very different than the myth. And when you really think about myth generally, myths are just things designed to dumb, dumb down is not the right word, simplify a story so you can present it to a child. That's really what I think myth is about.
And also to perhaps gloss memory with the way we'd like to remember it rather than the harsh reality of what it actually was. It's simpler to keep it in a structure that we're a little more comfortable with than the complexities of I think I was thinking, I'm reading about the railroad right now and how Chinese were treated, how Indians were treated. It's complicated and it's not one thing.
All right, let's bring Chris Moritz in here. And as I said, corporate attorney, M&A executive. He has a book. It is called, let me get it. Hold on a second. I lost. There it is. Failed State, A Portrait of California, The Twilight of Empire. And Mark, you're quoted recently as having said, the unraveling of California is a case study in the perils of unchecked oligarchy.
Concentrated wealth, political corruption, and mass migration are weaponized to dissolve national cohesion. Is that what California is all about?
Look, I mean, there's so many... sort of fault lines in the decay of California that's happened, I would say, over a course of 25 years. It's accelerated significantly in the last five. But I think when we ultimately try and dissect what has happened here, you have to ask yourself the question, why? And what is the political economy?
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