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Pres. Biden Pardons Son Hunter: Is A Dr. Fauci Pardon Next? w/ Elijah Schaffer & Janine Turner – Ask Dr. Drew - Ep 433
Mon, 09 Dec 2024
After pardoning his son Hunter Biden, it’s been rumored that President Biden is now considering a pardon of Dr. Anthony Fauci. Would receiving a Presidential pardon be an admission that Dr. Fauci committed crimes – and could immunity prompt the former NIH director to finally tell the whole truth about the pandemic? Elijah Schaffer is a journalist for The Gateway Pundit, host of Slightly Offensive on Censored.TV, and a news presenter on Vigilant News Network (VNN). Follow him at https://x.com/ElijahSchaffer and at https://slightlyoffensive.com Janine Turner is an actress, author, speaker, and constitutional advocate. She gained prominence starring in the Emmy-nominated series “Northern Exposure” (1990-1995). Turner founded Constituting America and hosts two podcasts: “YouSA” and “God on the Go Minute.” Her book “The Pivot Principle: Finding Joy in Despair” is available now at https://amzn.to/3Bnrtaw. Today, Turner works as a rancher in Texas. Find more at https://constitutingamerica.org and follow her at https://x.com/janineturner 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the implications of presidential pardons?
Oh, I'm just going to say that I think the system that's set up, people forget. They always ask, what do you need an AR-15 for? What do you need this for? And they go, who has an AR-15? And I go, the government does. And they go, oh, so what do you want to have, a nuclear-powered submarine? I go, if it was available, I would be fine with that.
But at least an AR-15 is easily had, and I think people forget that the government is not your friend. And then what always happens is – I just want to point this out. While they're in power, these people, they go, oh, you don't need a gun. You don't need this. Then Trump gets in and they go, only the police should have guns. Only the government should have power.
And then they tell you that Trump is worse than Hitler. And you go, so then why would you want them to have all the powers? You know?
Right. Why would you want him making decisions about abortion or about whether we have guns?
You need your rights, right? No matter who you are, left or right, you need your individual rights.
That's right. Janine?
But Dr. Drew, Alexis de Tocqueville talked about the administrative state, and we just had an essay on this at constitutingamerica.org, and it's out on the social media where I talk about it. He talked about the administrative state, which I don't believe in. I like elected officials making our decisions. But he did talk about the administrative state. Give us some enlightened information.
So once again, I think it's all about giving the power back to the genius of the people and to the people, the consent of the governed, but also it's okay to listen to what experts have to say. So it's a fine line, right?
It's just coming back to the middle, coming back to hearing both points of view, coming back to growing, listening and reason and hearing and combining these talents that we have in America because we have so much talent in America.
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Chapter 2: Could Dr. Fauci be next for a pardon?
I agree. I think we'd all agree on that. And, you know, I was educated in New England and New England has a magnificent educational heritage. And John Adams was certainly a part of how that got established. It's a question of whether there should be a federal public or how that should work. But a topic for another time. Janita, I got to kind of wrap up.
Give us your final thoughts and your final pitch for Constituting America and your podcast and what they can find in the book. Tell us everything.
Oh, thank you. Well, my book is just about finding joy and despair. And it's a collaboration of poetry and prose and how to dig yourself out of despair. Constituting America is about finding civic reason. We have a speaking program. We have an academic study. We have a talk show that I do on American acceptance. So it's all about loving America, understanding why America is great.
And understanding how we need to teach our students. You know, we offer those programs about why the Constitution actually really matters. It is the rule book.
And then the podcast.
Oh, yeah, Constitutional Chats. We have a podcast every Tuesday, Constitutional Chats, where we bring in scholars from all over the country to talk about the United States Constitution. We have a lot of youth that have won contests at Constituting America. So we have youth on our panel to actually ask these scholars questions. And that's every Tuesday at 2 Eastern.
And the American Exceptional is available through Constituting America and all over all podcasts.
Janine, thank you for being here. Pleasure to talk to you.
Thank you, Dr. Drew. And thank you, Elijah.
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Chapter 3: What historical precedents exist for presidential pardons?
I called 11. 11 medical establishments here in South Florida.
Pediatric?
Yes, pediatric. They believed that the child being vaccinated protected the staff. Correct. Particularly, he said hepatitis B was one of the ones required. He said, I don't think a six-week-old boy is involved in any sexual activity, but according to them, it was for their protection.
Yeah, this is really a true thing. So did they, if you were to parse out like certain vaccines, like if you were to take measles, take mumps, take, I don't know, haemophilus, take some other things, but not take hepatitis B, say, they would say, that's enough. We can't have you in here because you're going to expose us to hepatitis B?
Yeah, it made my family member cry because it was, yes.
Do you understand hepatitis B is transmitted through blood? It's like HIV.
Well, yes, but I'm saying legitimately they said, and by the way, the way they worded it, I looked it up. It's actually not even how they worded it. It's like the COVID thing where they would say COVID laws, but it was just like health recommendations. They, at least three of them told me that it was due to the vaccination laws. Florida vaccination laws.
That makes more sense to me. I don't know if it's true or not.
No, no, no, but I looked up and it's not. It's just health recommendations. But they try to sell it to if someone was maybe less educated on the issue or a little more ignorant on it.
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Chapter 5: What are the issues surrounding health insurance?
And when I read it, I was like, what? Now I get it. He said essentially, he talked in a lot of code and he said, the owl of Minerva spreads its wings only with the setting of dusk. The point being is that you can really only look back and understand history as it's closing. And I thought, yeah, that has never been more meaningful to me than in recent sort of years.
So looking back on COVID and looking back on so many things that have happened the last 10 years, it's like, oh, I understand it completely differently now.
Well, and I like what Voltaire says, you know, which is, you know, I may disagree. I may disapprove of what you're saying, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it. And I think we've lost that in America. We've been shut down. We haven't been able to express ourselves. And we have a speaking program at constitutingamerica.org.
And one of them is how to have a civil civic conversation because I've been shut down so much of my life. You know, whether it's Hollywood or as a single mother or whatever it may be. And I think that we must be able to have civil civic conversations where we listen to each other. And I'm not always the best at that, I will admit. But I think it's a goal worth achieving.
And it's interesting, I find myself quoting de Tocqueville a lot, and I understand democracy in America is something that you are very familiar with as well. Again, here we are, two Americans in the, not so early in the 21st century anymore, talking about and quoting a guy from 1820, a French aristocrat that visited us in 1820. What are your thoughts on de Tocqueville?
Well, we have academic studies every year at our foundation. And one was about American exceptionalism, which I really think we need to go ahead and say that word and why we are. And our study proves throughout history why we are exceptional. And the other is de Tocqueville. And de Tocqueville was so prescient. And he was able to talk about...
America from an objective point of view and juxtaposition America against the French, their monarchy, you know, how they didn't succeed really with the revolution and how we did. And I find de Tocqueville to be quite intriguing. We have a study about that at constitutedamerica.org right now. And he talks about everything. He even talked about the rise of America and Russia being great powers.
with which to deal in the future.
He predicted it. He predicted it. He actually predicted it. It's crazy, right? I don't know. How could he have seen that? That's so weird, right?
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