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Max Lugavere: Nutrition Expert Busts “Meat Is Bad For You PSYOP” + Viva Frei on CA Wildfires & Next Canadian PM – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 446
Sun, 19 Jan 2025
Bestselling health journalist Max Lugavere says the Food Pyramid is flawed because it was built upon epidemiology “which is a very weak form of science when it comes to actually informing people in terms of diet.” He says it’s “basically an experiment that’s being played out on the public health stage” and that people should resist the ” ‘meat is bad for you’ psyop.” Max Lugavere is a NYT bestselling author, health journalist, and filmmaker. His books include ‘Genius Foods’ and ‘Genius Kitchen’. He hosts The Genius Life podcast with over 65 million downloads and has appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience, The Today Show, and PBS. His work focuses on brain health, longevity, and nutrition science. Find more at https://maxlugavere.com and follow him at https://x.com/maxlugavere and https://instagram.com/maxlugavere David Freiheit AKA Viva Frei is an attorney and host of “Viva Frei” on Rumble and Locals. He also cohosts the legal podcast “Viva and Barnes Live” at https://VivaBarnes.Locals.com. Follow Viva Frei at https://x.com/thevivafrei 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What critiques does Max Lugavere have about the food pyramid?
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All right. Max is our first guest. We'll bring Viva Frye in after the bottom of the hour. Max Lugavere, as I said, is a health journalist, filmmaker. His books include Genius Foods and Genius Kitchen. And he's appeared all over the place, including on Rogan's show. His Genius Life podcast has over 65 million downloads. I suggest you check that out.
And MaxLugavere.com, Max Lugavere on X and Instagram. Max, welcome to the program.
Dr. Drew, it's great to be here. Thank you so much for having me.
So the food pyramid is so clearly, I'm going to try to use some kind language here and say mistaken, misleading, that's kind language. What in the world happened? What were the adulterating influences? And how did they get it so wrong?
And so pervasive, right? I mean, I grew up with this dietary paradigm imploring me every single 24-hour cycle to consume between 6 and 11 servings of grains a day. And if you actually look at illustrated versions of the food pyramid, I mean, it was like...
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Chapter 2: What is the 'meat is bad for you' psyop?
And, you know, we're seeing startling rates of diabetes, which used to be called adult-onset diabetes, but now we're seeing it diagnosed in children, early hypertension, overweight and obesity. So it's a massive problem.
What's your recommendations? What should we be doing here? You know, what is in your crosshairs and what should we be doing to make this better?
Yeah. Well, I think from a nutritional standpoint, I mean, we all ought to be focusing primarily on minimally processed whole foods. And I take a protein centric approach. I think protein is sort of the unsung hero of the nutrition world. It's not just for bodybuilders, men, women across the age spectrum.
We're starting to see now that diets that are higher in protein seem to produce better brain health outcomes, also better from the standpoint of metabolic health, because protein is the best way to fortify your skeletal muscle, which is crucial for navigating the world as we get older. Really important to sustain exercise, mobility, to prevent fractures.
Also really important from a metabolic health standpoint for keeping blood sugar low. I mean, your muscles are the primary site of glucose disposal. So A lot of people are afraid of eating carbohydrates, but your body can store carbohydrates in your muscle tissue. You just have to make sure that you're eating in a way that supports them. So I take a protein-centric approach.
I'm a big fan of red meat, wild fatty fish, eggs, things like that. And then I also think that the plant kingdom, I mean, the produce section has some really benevolent items. Blueberries, dark leafy greens, I think are fantastic products. We should all be prioritizing dark leafy greens.
There are pigments in dark leafy greens like lutein and zeaxanthin, which directly support eye and brain health. Research out of Rush University found that people who eat a bowl of dark leafy greens every day have brains that perform up to 11 years younger. You might be able to slow brain aging by 11 years just by eating a moderate-sized salad every day. So I'm a fan of that. I'm
Hang on, so I want to make sure I understand what we mean by dark leafy vegetables. Is that kale and broccoli, or that's cruciferous? So is it kale only, or can we use regular lettuce?
Well, yeah, any form, really. I mean, arugula is great because it provides inorganic nitrate, which lowers blood pressure, boosts blood flow. Actually, hypertension is one of the key modifiable risk factors for dementia. So you want to make sure that you don't have hypertension and eating dark leafy greens fantastic way to prevent that.
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Chapter 3: How does nutritional epidemiology influence dietary guidelines?
Pardons for all the Jan Sixers, all of them without exception. No piecemeal. We'll go case by case and see who committed violence. Pardon all of them on day one. And other than that, you know, the world keeps spinning and every day is crazy in the last. But we'll be focusing on California as well because it is... Too absurd to believe these systematic failures.
I put together a top 10 of things that are supposed rumors, confirmed fact at the end of the day. And it cannot be by accident. You can't have this much incompetence layer after layer after layer without it being at least calculatedly deliberate in a way. So we'll be following that.
These are the globalists you're taking aim at? Is that who's deliberately doing this to us?
know it's it's unclear but the crisis produces the result that they wanted in the first place which is now oh we're gonna have to rebuild we'll make it a nice clean uh 15-minute city oh that's a no you can't rebuild in malibu now we're going to bring back the the the ancestral burial grounds of native americans so whatever whatever is happening it's certainly fitting the agenda of the very people who implemented all the policies that have resulted in this crisis uh metastasizing so
It's not an accident. It's deliberate layered incompetence, I think, is how Bongino refers to it.
It is anything but governing. Just anything. Well, listen, my friend, it is good to see you. I hope your wife and kids are good. I will look forward to having another barbecue down there with you one of these days. We are frequenting Florida an awful lot, and we enjoy it every time we go. That was the best.
The next time you come down, we're going to have a real charcoal barbecue with that beautiful red meat from Easy Meats on Glades. It's the best, not an ad, but it's the best meat on earth. So Drew, next time you guys are down, for sure.
Eva, good to see you. We'll look for you on your and Barnes podcast. Take care. Amazing. Thank you. Thanks for joining us. Love it. All right. The great view of Barnes coming up for us. I'm Viva and Barnes, right? The great view of a fry, of course. And you can find him on X and Instagram and everywhere. And on his show at Rumble.
Tomorrow, Dave Rubin's going to join us early at noon, speaking of Florida. Then Susan will have her calling out show at 3 o'clock. Do you want to?
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