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Grading The 2025 Trump Admin Nominees w/ Emerald Robinson & Naomi Wolf – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 443
Mon, 13 Jan 2025
Naomi Wolf & Emerald Robinson grade the incoming administration and nominees for Donald Trump’s second presidency. Naomi Wolf, Ph.D. is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor. She is recognized as one of the world’s most influential feminist writers. Wolf is a Rhodes Scholar, a graduate of Yale University, and received a doctorate from Oxford. She has written eight bestselling works of nonfiction, including The Beauty Myth, Give Me Liberty, and The End of America, and is co-founder and CEO of civic tech company https://DailyClout.io. Her latest book is “Facing the Beast: Courage, Faith and Resistance in a New Dark Age.” Follow her at https://x.com/naomirwolf Emerald Robinson is a political journalist and former White House correspondent for Newsmax and One America News Network (OAN). Her work appears in Gateway Pundit, Real Clear Politics, Citizen Free Press, and Revolver News. She currently publishes ‘The Right Way,’ a political newsletter. Find more at https://emerald.tv and follow her at https://x.com/emeraldrobinson 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at https://drdrew.com/sponsors • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at https://drdrew.com/fatty15 • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at https://drdrew.com/paleovalley • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at https://twc.health/drew 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (https://kalebnation.com) and Susan Pinsky (https://twitter.com/firstladyoflove). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who are the guests on this episode?
Great guest again today, Dr. Naomi Wolf, our dear friend. And one of the sort of pleasant byproducts of the COVID debacle, in addition to exposing us to what was really going on with our government, was it made new bedfellows and new friends. And Naomi is one of them. She is back. She's a columnist, author, professor.
Chapter 2: What are the backgrounds of Naomi Wolf and Emerald Robinson?
She is recognized as the world's most influential feminist writer, Rhodes Scholar, graduate of Yale. And she is going to be, there's her book, Courage, Faith, and Resistance in a New Dark Age. And she has been ringing the alarm for quite some time. Emerald Robinson is a political journalist and former White House correspondent for Newsmax, One America News, OAN.
She's on Gateway Pundit, Real Clear Politics, Citizen Fresh, Free Press. And I saw them both on Daily Clout. You can follow Naomi. Daily Clout on X. You can follow Emerald on Emerald.TV and Emerald Robinson on X. They'll both be here. We're going to do a little grading of the transition appointments for the new administration after this.
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Emerald is at Emerald Robinson, one word on X, and emerald.tv is where you can watch The Right Way, also The Right Way on Substack. Please welcome Emerald and Naomi to the program. Guys, welcome.
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Chapter 3: What are the key issues regarding the transition team appointments?
I cannot answer that. I would be a fool to place my bets. I mean, the messaging is that there are enough votes for him to be confirmed. I, again, like Emerald, I'm jaded, right? So having seen behind the curtain when I was a political consultant, I would say that we can't know because the opposition research, if they have it, is going to be unleashed during the confirmation hearings.
So if there's any skeleton that hasn't been presented to the public, if there's any embarrassing story, if there's, and I'm not saying that there is, but just the way the game is played, they hold back those attacks for when, they matter. And that's when people are paying attention to the hearings.
I am nervous, honestly, because the worst kind of politics would calculate, you know, on the Trump side, this is genius. And it's true. I wrote an essay, you know, encouraging this because the math only works when you've got those Maha voters, those moms, those suburban, you know, white women, you
middle class, upper middle class joining forces with MAGA, who is a different demographic and only together do you get a majority. And that's just the math, right? So that was the only way Trump could win. So he aligned with RFK Jr., but RFK Jr. is also, I'll be frank, a liability in a lot of ways, right?
Because of his integrity and because of his accurate criticism and understanding of the corruption movement. of the pharmaceutical industry, which is too big and influential on both sides to disrupt in any substantive way. So it would be very convenient for Trump to align with him, get elected. Oops, you know, not my fault. He didn't get confirmed. We did our best. And that's my worry.
That would break my heart. I would hate to see that. You know, I flew with him to Florida a couple of days ago. And I'm not going to tell you specifically what he said, but I said, you know, how bad is it? He said, it's worse. The corruption is just, we're going to get this. I'm going to figure this out, but it's bad. Emerald, does he have a grade?
Hey, I mean, look, he's been solid on vaccines, medical freedom, accountability in other areas, fighting corporate and government corruption, whatever his liabilities are. He has no liabilities on his track records there. Right. Here's what I was. So he gets a grade A from me.
Now, as far as his confirmation process, there's going to be a lot of broken hearts and you're going to see a major divide if they don't confirm him. And I think Republicans will actually face a major amount of backlash from the voting public.
How much they care about that, though, you and I and Naomi, we all know that isn't that's never the top factor for them is how much backlash they get from the public because they are going to get a lot of backlash from their donors and their lobbyists. Right. Which is big pharma. My concern is that they might not be doing enough from the official Trump transition to help get him confirmed.
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Chapter 4: How do the speakers evaluate RFK Jr.'s potential appointment?
Chapter 5: What are the concerns regarding vaccine mandates and public health policies?
And you guys kind of took aim at Jeanette a bit in the interview I saw with the two of you on Daily Cloud. And my first, I just want to just drill on one issue. Did either of you or anybody else who's listening have any idea who the Surgeon General was prior to coming to office for any president in your lifetime? No. And why are we taking aim at this one, is my question.
Why do we even know this one? Did you know who the Surgeon General was coming in with the, not when they were appointed and when they entered into the White House and we started seeing them work, prior to the appointment, prior to coming in. And why are we making an issue of Trump's pick? Can you guys respond to that?
Well, A, I did know who a number of Surgeons General were in my lifetime. And it's not a role with a lot of power, but it does have kind of bully pulpit power. So the Surgeon General who encouraged teaching kids to masturbate, at the time I thought that was, you know, a sensible... Did you know that Joycelyn was coming in before Clinton took office? Did I know she was coming in?
I don't really understand your question.
That's the point. Jeanette, the current Surgeon General, is not the Surgeon General yet. She's being put up for appointment. Is that ever happened before? I've never had any idea going in who they were suggesting. And all of a sudden, now we know exactly who he's suggesting.
I mean, to be fair to President Trump, he's doing something really unusual, which is he's being very transparent about about his possible nominees or his shortlist and floating people as nominees before they're brought into the public in the actual process.
Fair enough. It's a different circumstance. I'll grant you that.
That's sort of how he does his vetting process. He does that on purpose. And so he takes public opinion polls. So it is probably a little bit different of a process. That's a great point.
Okay. All right. But I'm just amazed at the strong opinions people had about Jeanette. And I know her personally. I know her to be a good physician. I know her to be a good human being. I was just sort of shocked. And she was hurt deeply. She just wants to do good. What are your guys' concerns about her?
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of the Surgeon General's appointment?
I am nervous, honestly, because the worst kind of politics would calculate, you know, on the Trump side, this is genius. And it's true. I wrote an essay, you know, encouraging this because the math only works when you've got those Maha voters, those moms, those suburban, you know, white women, you
middle class, upper middle class joining forces with MAGA, who is a different demographic and only together do you get a majority. And that's just the math, right? So that was the only way Trump could win. So he aligned with RFK Jr., but RFK Jr. is also, I'll be frank, a liability in a lot of ways, right?
Because of his integrity and because of his accurate criticism and understanding of the corruption movement. of the pharmaceutical industry, which is too big and influential on both sides to disrupt in any substantive way. So it would be very convenient for Trump to align with him, get elected. Oops, you know, not my fault. He didn't get confirmed. We did our best. And that's my worry.
That would break my heart. I would hate to see that. You know, I flew with him to Florida a couple of days ago. And I'm not going to tell you specifically what he said, but I said, you know, how bad is it? He said, it's worse. The corruption is just, we're going to get this. I'm going to figure this out, but it's bad. Emerald, does he have a grade?
Hey, I mean, look, he's been solid on vaccines, medical freedom, accountability in other areas, fighting corporate and government corruption, whatever his liabilities are. He has no liabilities on his track records there. Right. Here's what I was. So he gets a grade A from me.
Now, as far as his confirmation process, there's going to be a lot of broken hearts and you're going to see a major divide if they don't confirm him. And I think Republicans will actually face a major amount of backlash from the voting public.
How much they care about that, though, you and I and Naomi, we all know that isn't that's never the top factor for them is how much backlash they get from the public because they are going to get a lot of backlash from their donors and their lobbyists. Right. Which is big pharma. My concern is that they might not be doing enough from the official Trump transition to help get him confirmed.
There's some mixed messaging on that. Now, I know there are some good folks on transition who specifically wanted to help Pete Hexheth get confirmed, want to help him get confirmed for defense because they feel like if they take out Hexheth, it makes it easier for them to take out Trump. take out RFK. So you see the slippery slope that could be. So they want to help RFK as well.
So these are really good people. I think he will probably ultimately sneak through, but this will be a big blow to probably what is now, right, the biggest lobby in D.C., So it's going to be tough. But should he get in, he definitely gets an A from me.
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Chapter 8: How do political appointments affect public perception?
He has a real deep affection for his fellow service members, his veteran, his fellow veterans. He has worked in Veterans Affairs. The issue that Pete is going to have is not knowing bureaucracy and running a large... I mean, the DOD is a huge department. He's going to have to have really good people under him as well.
And there's been a bit of a fight and transition in getting good people in outside. And they've been so focused on getting Pete confirmed that they haven't gotten to really focus as much on... on the people who would support him. And the DOD is just filled, especially after this Biden administration, with people who will be subversive, especially as he tries to, he's more of a cultural warrior.
And I think that's great. I think that's probably really good for this moment. Look at what has happened to our military and Department of Defense under the Biden administration as they focused on DEI, right, and identity politics. Recruitment has nosedived.
um our military readiness and with the vaccines i mean our military readiness is at a level that we actually have to be seriously concerned um so i think that he can be good in those avenues we just need him to have the right support under him um and then i did know that confirmation wise this was going to come up when they announced him these these these stories and these issues um
But it sounds like they have it under control that. And I will tell you, it wasn't the Trump transition that stepped in. It wasn't the official. It wasn't Susie Wiles and those, you know, who should be helping him get confirmed that are making sure he got confirmed. There was other people who have helped him navigate this.
You're not going to tell us whom?
No, I can't. I can't share that. But they the transition had left the official people had left him out to dry.
the shadowy world of other people. But, you know, I'm not sure the average person knows that the soldiers, I've got a lot of friends that were in special forces and things, the soldiers themselves have had, part of the morale problem in the military, amongst other things, is they have disdain for the politically appointed soldiers officials in the defense department, including the generals.
I was really surprised to hear that. They look at them as like, no, they're just political appointees. They don't know what they're doing. We know more about what's going on on the ground because we're the ones making the decisions. But you mentioned bureaucracy a couple of times. Naomi, I'll go back to you.
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